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DeNa/Nintendo Account system announced
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Trojita
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It doesn't say Unified Account system, it says Online Membership Service. The thread title and OP are saying two different things.
How the fuck is DeNa going to develop a unified account system that everyone wants when they have to tie purchases to devices like iPhones whose apps and Micro transactions go through their proprietary app store.
At most you are going to get some gimped as fuck shit like Apple's Gamecenter, that tracks garbage achievements.
How the fuck is DeNa going to develop a unified account system that everyone wants when they have to tie purchases to devices like iPhones whose apps and Micro transactions go through their proprietary app store.
At most you are going to get some gimped as fuck shit like Apple's Gamecenter, that tracks garbage achievements.
It's not. They also talked about the potential for cross play and cross saves between games. It'll likely be much nore robust than an evolution of club Nintendo would be.
That's the biggest question of all. We still don't know anything concrete. From how they described it at the conference, im leaning towards maybe.
Neff
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If they go the way of Sony and MS in allowing several multi-region accounts/compatibility for the same piece of hardware, then this could be very special.
Region free retail is something I've never really cared about, but region free DD absolutely is, mostly because of the EU 50hz VC issue.
Region free retail is something I've never really cared about, but region free DD absolutely is, mostly because of the EU 50hz VC issue.
MikeE21286
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Welcome to the Internet Nintendo.
Thank God.
Thank God.
There's a whole lot of optimistic guys on here. I'm not one to trust DeNA with basically anything net related. Last time I tried (admittedly, some years ago, and not seriously) they were big into GeoIP locking and delivering decidedly second tier content/support outside of Japan. Was a pretty assy experience, game quality aside.
Oh well. I guess it's better to hope for the bestand expect the worst than to spend the days until launch as a ball of concentrated angst. Don't let me down, NintenDeNA.
Oh well. I guess it's better to hope for the best
Yep, a lot of people in this thread are in for a huge disappointment.
I don't see anything in this news pointing in the direction of a unified account system at all. This will be a service on top of NNID I bet.
tearsintherain
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Am I the only one who reads that as basically Nintendo is going to develop a new website with DeNA that has a custom app on WiiU/3DS that will probably let you look at themes or backgrounds or something but have no actual integration with Nintendo Network IDs or login mechanisms for 3DS/Wii U?
Especially if its launching in the fall, that seems way too optimistic for people to think they are somehow going to rewrite all their core login, eshop, and account systems to migrate from their current systems to a new unified system.
Especially if its launching in the fall, that seems way too optimistic for people to think they are somehow going to rewrite all their core login, eshop, and account systems to migrate from their current systems to a new unified system.
/crosses fingers for "(all) saves to Ninty servers" feature
Starwolf_UK
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Why was Gamespy a mistake? They seemed like the best people for the job in 2005.
I doubt it as that is a terrible feature of NNID (it was part of the terms you agreed to upon making it) and this membership scheme sounds like it is going to exist alongside it and is basically an NNID analogue for non-Nintendo devices (signing into a Nintendo Network ID on an iPhone wouldn't make sense as you're not using the Nintendo Network).
If you're Wii U just make another user.
If you're on 3DS. The shitty implementation of NNID claims another victim. Hope you enjoyed youtube and steel diver sub wars.
SuperDowns
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Of course this is, they have proved time and again that they have no idea what they are doing in that arena.
.............. I actually kinda see this is more than what it meets in eyes. It can even be the solution for the problem that many mention here on people playing free game will never eva play 40 bucks game here so this is a bad move.
What if this account program does not function only as simple account system but it had many other feature?
Like if the mobile player had played the game for more like 100 hours(ads money or from microtransaction) Ninty is going to give some free title(digitally) on their handhelds or even consoles.This way, Ninty is actually trying to entice those smartphone gamers to come to their gaming ecosystem. I mean the word FREE is powerful on smartphone. It can also be powerful to make people go into their ecosystem. This will kinda decrease the problem high cost barrier which Iwata mention before where even with all the quality, sometimes Free is just more powerful.
That way, they are going to get both brand awareness but also some new gamer coming looking for new experience for cheaper price or even some who wanted to try more Ninty classic great gaming experience.
What do other Gaffers think here? Is this a nice plan or is it a bad plan?
What if this account program does not function only as simple account system but it had many other feature?
Like if the mobile player had played the game for more like 100 hours(ads money or from microtransaction) Ninty is going to give some free title(digitally) on their handhelds or even consoles.This way, Ninty is actually trying to entice those smartphone gamers to come to their gaming ecosystem. I mean the word FREE is powerful on smartphone. It can also be powerful to make people go into their ecosystem. This will kinda decrease the problem high cost barrier which Iwata mention before where even with all the quality, sometimes Free is just more powerful.
That way, they are going to get both brand awareness but also some new gamer coming looking for new experience for cheaper price or even some who wanted to try more Ninty classic great gaming experience.
What do other Gaffers think here? Is this a nice plan or is it a bad plan?
SerTapTap
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For mobile? No way, they'll target whales, can't do that with a base buy-in.
My concern is this. Nintendo currently has the technical capacity to allow for account transfers, since they've done it for people who call. But they just haven't allowed customers to use that feature themselves. Surely they must be aware of the customer service man-hours that are used on simple things that the user can do. We also know that their system supports cross-buy, but we don't have that either. I don't think their account issues are a matter of technical incompetence, but of strategies that assume that all of their customers are untrustworthy.
So unless Nintendo's given DeNA the keys to the castle, so to speak, I don't see why this partnership suddenly means that they've changed their paranoid ways.
So unless Nintendo's given DeNA the keys to the castle, so to speak, I don't see why this partnership suddenly means that they've changed their paranoid ways.
Yeah, giving free games just for letting the app running is a wonderful idea.
Crimsonclaw111
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I sure hope I can keep my NNID.
evilromero
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Next comes the announcement that the subscription service is $50 a year. 
I can't wait for the fallout.
I can't wait for the fallout.
Pancakes R Us
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I wouldn't get too excited just yet. This is Nintendo, after all. Wait till the implementation. They'll find a way to mess this up or make it different to the industry standard.
CrispyGoomba
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It's sad that this is even news in 2015.
Because they last time they tried we got the garbage we have now. I would trust 3 college grads in a garage more than nintendo to make an account system. They could do much worse than dena.
entremet
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99 percent you will. They mentioned it during a ND that NNIDs were forward compatible
Games are tied to the account, which is tied to the console. Tad different.
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Deleted member 1235
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but who is DeNA and will they be good at it? if it's going to be a wildly japan centric online system i'll stay really skeptical.
Sparrowhawk
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Same here. :\
Visualante2
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Hard to celebrate when Nintendo is involved. They'll find some way to handicap it by making it child friendly.
There's always a catch when it comes to Nintendo's concessions to the internet.
There's always a catch when it comes to Nintendo's concessions to the internet.
The Spoony Hou
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seems to me like this account system might be just for the new cellphone games, not for their main systems.
Of course I'm just speculating, but I wouldn't get excited until we get actual info.
NNIDs will remain for the time being. They can even be used to log into the new membership service.
IIRC the account system is going to be across all Nintendo systems and mobile.
That is correct. Your purchases will also be linked to the new service if you link your NNID to this new programme. You can already take a look at Club Nintendo EU where they are testing this already.
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