Sony made the right choice. "This is chess, not checkers!" Capitulating to Bungie is safer than letting Microsoft have EA and Activision. And by doing so, Sony has ensured the PS brand will live to see another generation, perhaps even after Microsoft's acquisition of Mojang.
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Destiny makes $500 million in first 24 hours
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Sony made the right choice. "This is chess, not checkers!" Capitulating to Bungie is safer than letting Microsoft have EA and Activision. And by doing so, Sony has ensured the PS brand will live to see another generation, perhaps even after Microsoft's acquisition of Mojang.
ComputerMKII
Banned
Holy shit. Huge respect for Bobby Kotick. What a businessman.
Pakoe
Member
LOL, really..
AdventureRacing
Member
Halo 5 isn't even guaranteed to sell more on the xbone let alone on all platforms.
Canis lupus
Member
Halo 4 made 220m in the first 24 hours, only 20m more than Reach. I expect Halo 5 to make less money, reasons being that Xbone will have a smaller install base then when those games came out and Halo 4 MP not being well received by fans.
October will tell the real story though. For sure.
DeadManWalking
Member
If xbox will continue to sell shit it wont.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
People did dislike it but it still continued to sell well for years after its release and there's a lot of Rockstar fanboys who refuse to admit there were any issues with IV.
Not quite.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
IndoAssassin
Banned
Why not? 160 million PS3's and 360's plus 16 million X1's and PS4's. Potential audience of 176 million.
machemachete
Banned
Sometimes i believed that this is what MS and EA wanted to make with Titanfall 
What?
Bungie wanted to make this game when they were owned by MS but MS only wanted them to make another Halo. This could have been an Xbox One exclusive.
Sometimes i believed that this is what MS and EA wanted to make with Titanfall
It's what any major developer wants to make with any game. I don't see why people keep bringing up TitanFall here as though MS ought to feel bad about the fact that a game with a much larger potential user base sold much better.
SDCowboy
Member
They also have WoW.
ricardokenshin
Member
Sometimes i believed that this is what MS and EA wanted to make with Titanfall
Probably, they could have added a single player campaign or at least a coop campaign (to keep it online only) against bots and it would have gotten me to buy it too.
Regarding Destiny, seems weird we all bought it without waiting for reviews huh? seems demos/betas/alphas are very successful in getting you on board on the hype train.
Roddslayer
Member
Well deserved sales and it was released at a perfect time since it's kicking off the Fall season of games. Bungie owns September.
Yeah that's why those posts should have been ignored.
Companies don't just throw darts at a wall. They know what they're doing before investing.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
No surprise here, it's a great game. People still got too hyped which destroyed their ability to like it though; that or they don't understand what this game is supposed to be.
With that said it's not without it's faults; the lack of chat in such a team-play oriented game is ridiculous. Hoping Bungie works out some kinks to really make this game shine.
The backlash will subside and this game will flourish.
With that said it's not without it's faults; the lack of chat in such a team-play oriented game is ridiculous. Hoping Bungie works out some kinks to really make this game shine.
The backlash will subside and this game will flourish.
SDCowboy
Member
I wouldn't mind a Star Wars Destiny clone. >.>
I don't like Kotick. I haven't bought an Activision game in years, and have no plans to change that, but calling Kotick a broken clock is laughable. He's far and away the most successful executive in video games.
Agreed. I still think some people's prediction for a huge backlash is gonna bite them in the ass.
Eddie Griffin
Banned
Haha. No.
That's $500million gross and based on sell-in.
They're still a very long ways away from seeing a positive ROI. To put the number into context you can use CoD Ghosts as an example. It saw $1billion sell-in in 24hours. The fact they're using gross sell-in as opposed to another metric is interesting.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Hype works.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
*cough* Titanfall *cough*.
When Destiny's hype settles down in a few weeks, watch Rockstar pounce with GTA V for new current gen and PC.
We know PS4 sales reached 10M already, where is Xbox One at (sold not shipped) around 6M ?
By the time GTAV remaster ships (Nov-Dec ?) there could be close to 20M PS4+Xbox One consoles sold globally, as well as countless PCs that meet the minimum / recommended requirements.
We know PS4 sales reached 10M already, where is Xbox One at (sold not shipped) around 6M ?
By the time GTAV remaster ships (Nov-Dec ?) there could be close to 20M PS4+Xbox One consoles sold globally, as well as countless PCs that meet the minimum / recommended requirements.
Robdraggoo
Member
its activision, they will drag it through the mud with yearly releases. next one will be made by treyarch and will launch next september. Bungie will then spend the next 5 years developing a new game for the next highest bidder
pure speculation of course
Didn't work out for Titanfall, though.
Or you're just upset that Destiny has became very successful?
Contract stated 4 games every 2 years and all of them will be made by Bungie.
I don't see them to make any major changes to their agreement in any way.
Edit: Double post, my bad.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
People still think Destiny cost 500 million to make, ugh.
Because you have an exclusive game coming out on a smaller userbase than what Halo 3 and 4 had?
I like you. This was funny to me.
4 platforms vs 1 platform. Simple as that.
If you played the beta, you knew exactly what kind of game it would be. The main thing we didn't know was exactly how much content there was and the variety of the missions. The first part is subjective and we could not know from the beta and the second part is a legit criticism of the game that I'm disappointed that Bungie didn't do much with.
Magic Mushroom
Member
And Skylanders, which makes a ton of money as well.
NexusGamer
Member
It didn't have nearly the same marketing budget
plus it was mostly promoted for XBox One. 360 version wasn't really advertised, and PC gamers were mostly snobby towards it.
So super hyped and promoted game on all consoles, vs one big release only marketed to one console.
aspiegamer
Member
So we're not entirely sure how much of this includes related sales taxes, shipping, bundles, etc?
But 6-7M day one seems like a reasonable-ish estimate. So, so much money on marketing that I'm wondering if it'll take a little more time yet to fully break even for the game (NOT the $500M figure, but just this title + marketing + distribution). Pretty sure they'll make it, though.
Wasn't there some insider statement this last spring about a new IP looking at 8-10M needed to eventually break even? And people laughed that there was absolutely no way that that was going to happen? Yeah. I think the expectation is that this will have legs, too, as word of mouth spreads. Thoughts that Halo can match this are, hah, oh man.
But 6-7M day one seems like a reasonable-ish estimate. So, so much money on marketing that I'm wondering if it'll take a little more time yet to fully break even for the game (NOT the $500M figure, but just this title + marketing + distribution). Pretty sure they'll make it, though.
Wasn't there some insider statement this last spring about a new IP looking at 8-10M needed to eventually break even? And people laughed that there was absolutely no way that that was going to happen? Yeah. I think the expectation is that this will have legs, too, as word of mouth spreads. Thoughts that Halo can match this are, hah, oh man.
A very impressive number, but remember:
This was sold to retail, not to customer.
Remember that Activision does not get 60$ for 60$ game. There has been many estimates on the breakdown of 60$ game, but most reliable number has been around 27$ per copy to the publisher -so less than half of the retail price, once the game is sold to a consumer.
Once we learn what the actual sell-through of Destiny is, we will know how close to the fabled 500M$ Activision is.
This was sold to retail, not to customer.
Remember that Activision does not get 60$ for 60$ game. There has been many estimates on the breakdown of 60$ game, but most reliable number has been around 27$ per copy to the publisher -so less than half of the retail price, once the game is sold to a consumer.
Once we learn what the actual sell-through of Destiny is, we will know how close to the fabled 500M$ Activision is.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
People thinking Halo 5 will be bigger......what are you smoking?
Actually doing some number digging. It's amusing how misleading these figures they like to trumpet out are.
Fact 1: Activision also announced $1billion sell-in for CoD: Ghosts in 24 hours.
http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=804829
Fact 2: That $1billion sell-in for CoD: Ghosts is actually even less than the sell-in for Cod: Black Ops 2
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danieln...gs-warcraft-call-of-duty-hearthstone-destiny/ (ctrl+f for: "the $1 billion sell-in to retail for Call of Duty: Ghosts is actually less than the sell-in for Call of Duty: Black Ops 2")
Fact 3: GTA 5 had sell-through of $800million in 24 hours:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2013/09/18/gta-5-sells-800-million-in-one-day/
Fact 4: GTA 5 sold vastly more than both CoD titles.
For people that are being misled or don't understand how this can be, note the careful phrasing of their boast: Destiny is officially the biggest new franchise launch.."
Fact 1: Activision also announced $1billion sell-in for CoD: Ghosts in 24 hours.
http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=804829
Fact 2: That $1billion sell-in for CoD: Ghosts is actually even less than the sell-in for Cod: Black Ops 2
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danieln...gs-warcraft-call-of-duty-hearthstone-destiny/ (ctrl+f for: "the $1 billion sell-in to retail for Call of Duty: Ghosts is actually less than the sell-in for Call of Duty: Black Ops 2")
Fact 3: GTA 5 had sell-through of $800million in 24 hours:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2013/09/18/gta-5-sells-800-million-in-one-day/
Fact 4: GTA 5 sold vastly more than both CoD titles.
For people that are being misled or don't understand how this can be, note the careful phrasing of their boast: Destiny is officially the biggest new franchise launch.."
th4tguy
Member
How many of these copies were paid for by MS via their free game deal?
Eddie Griffin
Banned
This would only make sense if you randomly decided Halo won't move consoles anymore. Halo 3 and reach both moved significant consoles. Halo 4 did a little bit as well but not as much since the install base was already big. This however is the start of a new generation and you don't think Halo 5 won't have as big of a marketing campaign, but managed and sell more?