eh... one can just drop it to easy if they want to "skip" the combat.
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Difficulty Levels in The Witcher 3 (Dark Mode, Permadeath)
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eh... one can just drop it to easy if they want to "skip" the combat.
Fair enough, CD Projekt Red do seem to name drop a lot of popular RPGs.
The thing that bothers me is Dark Souls 1 doesn't have a difficultly level, the game is lovingly balanced so it's challenging but fair. When developers try to meet that level of challenge (including FROM's B-Team), it usually results in bullet-sponge enemies and attacks taking about 2/3 of your health.
If the gameplay meets it then Dark Mode will very enjoyable. I remember the parts of TW2 that I did play where the combat basically involved rolling in and out of mobs, swinging and placing hexes(?) when you could. It wasn't too enjoyable.
autoduelist
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Crazy talk. I mean, c'mon, all the roguelikes have it. Games like Fire Emblem and Xcom have it, though it's not 'game over' since you have a team. IIRC one of the Wizardry's had an option for it.
If you look at my avatar, Autoduel, which is sort of a post-apocalyptic action RPG (you have stats, though your primary weapon is your car), there was permadeath. You could buy an expensive clone that would save you (once) if you died... though for the long final mission of the game your clone was eliminated so if you died on the final mission, you died, game over, start over. Oh, and the game deleted your save game upon load. Those were the days.
Presumably that won't be possible.
I don't mind having a permadeath option, what I want to see is a mode that has all other things set the same as the permadeath mode, but doesn't have permadeath. I found normal and hard quite easy in the witcher 2, so I was glad when they added Dark Mode with the challenge of Insanity just not the permadeath.
If you die, all saves related to that playthrough are rendered invalid
Audioboxer
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There will totally be a trophy for permadeath 
I highly doubt a Permadeath run will be a requirement for 100% on console. Witcher 2's permadeath mode was a requirement for 100% on PC, but they lowered it on the Xbox 360 release to a Dark clear.
Barrel Cannon
Member
I remember taking screenshots for fun of Geralt in front of fire in Witcher 2.
That fire ended killing me and ending my save file .
The part where theres a building burning down.
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Interfectum
Member
Achievements are ruined by people who think they are entitled to get all of them. I think most developers just toss them in as "feel good" moments at this point.
Sephiroth_GR_
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Ha! this guy gets it!
Ha! this guy gets it!
"I paid 70 bucks, I deserve the platinum!"
Why would anyone run a marathon, climb k1, or enter a hot dog eating competition?
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I won't touch that mode, but I am 100% OK with them including it.
Why so much hate over the devs including it?
Why so much hate over the devs including it?
More options are good.
I don't really trust these guys with balancing the game right though. TW2 was abysmal in that regard. Started out decent enough and half way through any and all challenge disappeared while you continued to amass ridiculous stats through gear upgrades. The higher difficulty modes were the very definition of lazy... just pump the enemy damage/health levels to 11!
I don't really trust these guys with balancing the game right though. TW2 was abysmal in that regard. Started out decent enough and half way through any and all challenge disappeared while you continued to amass ridiculous stats through gear upgrades. The higher difficulty modes were the very definition of lazy... just pump the enemy damage/health levels to 11!
Because it might have a trophy attached to it, and people get a bit strange over things like that.
IXI FalcoN
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Bring on the Dark difficulty achievement/trophy. I love overcoming the odds and finishing these fuck-you difficulty modes.
FunkyLounge
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CD Projekt totally does not earn this in their combat. W3 seems better from the trailers, but I don't believe at all that they are able to craft combat so refined and skill based to earn this mode. Nor do I believe in the combat scenarios or hitboxes of attacks. This is just a bad idea from their part. Not even talking about playing a permadeath action game at 30fps.
I am sorry but they have no idea about how combat should work and respond to player's input.
I am sorry but they have no idea about how combat should work and respond to player's input.
Witched devs think console gamers are p*****s confirmed.
SatelliteOfLove
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To alot of sad cases, it is.
GwyndolinCinder
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Yeah this basically, witcher 2 on dark was not fun early on, not hard just tedious
daninthemix
Member
I hope easy is actually easy. I couldn't get pass Witcher 2's tutorial mode, so am hoping for a double-dose of accessibility this time.
I hope this works like Quicksaves by deleting your savegame each time you enter the game and making one when you exit, with a safeguard if this game terminates itself for some reason, of course.
Beating FF7 without a hard drive is gonna be extremely difficult, in fact, you might already have issues getting to the title screen.
Beating FF7 without a hard drive is gonna be extremely difficult, in fact, you might already have issues getting to the title screen.
Fragamemnon
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Will definitely play w/ permadeath at some point, but not on my first playthrough. Defintiely something you need systems mastery to plan for.
Some of us are masochists, but playing so it can hurt you is not what permadeath is about. Permadeath changes the way you approach a game completely-there is risk/reward evaluation that must be constantly performed, and character builds and traits will look radically different for permadeath characters vs. regular difficulty ones.
It's a rich experience, one that does require more investment in time and planning but for those of us who like that sort of thing, having it around greatly increases the game's appeal. There's a reason why games with permadeath modes often have a very strong following-once you start getting used to the permanent paranoia and the reality of living with your decisions, it's really hard to go back.
Some of us are masochists, but playing so it can hurt you is not what permadeath is about. Permadeath changes the way you approach a game completely-there is risk/reward evaluation that must be constantly performed, and character builds and traits will look radically different for permadeath characters vs. regular difficulty ones.
It's a rich experience, one that does require more investment in time and planning but for those of us who like that sort of thing, having it around greatly increases the game's appeal. There's a reason why games with permadeath modes often have a very strong following-once you start getting used to the permanent paranoia and the reality of living with your decisions, it's really hard to go back.
Not even in souls games is there skill gating, a bad player just has to summon to win.
AAA devs are under strict orders to eliminate ragequiting and minimize frustration in single player games. Hence the elimination of games requiring skill and practice, even in the racing genre (driveclub being the exception). There is actually a lot of effort that goes into dynamic difficult, that is reducing difficulty on the fly and hidden from the player, because a lot of gamers crank up difficulties yet have no tolerance for practice or patience.
Games always have, at the bare minimum, on the fly skill sliders, or insta-win cheats like summoning, or rewind buttons. And most also have dynamic difficulties.
The only big game I can think of that has real, unavoidable skill gating in single player in the last 4 or 5 years is driveclub.
Impeccable
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This will end up going on my buy when really, really cheap or no backlog list if there are trophies attached to that mode.
You heard me, trophies. (Yes it is petty but I need to cut down on the games I buy.)
You heard me, trophies. (Yes it is petty but I need to cut down on the games I buy.)
Is someone pointing to you with a gun saying "you must not play in Easy mode"?
Hope it does have a trophy for this.
Guess you want the thrill if trophies just don't make hard? This mentality is killing me what a joke.
Interfectum
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Pretty sad.
Lord of Castamere
Member
There's hard and then there's cheap. Dark on Witcher 2 was a mix of of both.
I'm kinda curious how many people beat insane on W2 without Quen spam.
Unless you accidentally die before you have that chance. Which is a strong possibility in a game like this.
At any rate, normal mode for me. Good luck to the brave souls who want to gamble with losing so much of their precious gaming time. I foresee many doing this and then never returning to the game after losing so many hours. But hey, I am all for the option for it to be there for those who want it.
Diablo 2?