I would appreciate a broad look at the technical prowess of some of the Tiger Electronic games especially the Castlevania series. I feel like you guys have been really lacking in that regard.
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Digital Foundry: Rise of the Tomb Raider PS4/Pro Patch 1.06
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I would appreciate a broad look at the technical prowess of some of the Tiger Electronic games especially the Castlevania series. I feel like you guys have been really lacking in that regard.
Dick waving? Are you serious? The DF analysis is objective and honest. Where is the problem, I couldn't be happier with their product.
shiftplusone
Member
a new atari archive is out on ps4 please test the version of centipede provided against all other versions of centipede even the 3d one on ps1 and provide UNBIASED comparisons
i will know it is biased if it does not agree with my platform preference so get it right
Agreed. All you have to do is look at a video like the one about Knack from Push Square for biased commentary on what should be an objective video about what a Pro patch brings to the table.
I was referring to fanboys, not DF itself.
Well, I do appreciate the Retro support since that's my baby. ;-)
That is the perfect line to describe many of the comments we get.
IcyRhythms
Member
Does performance tank in Geothermal Valley like it does on PC? What a fucking disaster that area is. It's not even that impressive. One of the least impressive looking parts of the game.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
DF allow consumers to make more informed decisions on their purchases, which is great. They're doing a service for gamers. If you don't like the buzz around the articles then just tune out the comments and the threads and focus on the articles.
DF's articles have directly lead to significant fixes and improvements that everyone benefits from. There's no way you can construe that to be a bad thing.
IcyRhythms
Member
I do agree a bit with him. Directly or indirectly, they help fuel fake console wars. I agree with you too, though. Their efforts do help consumers make better purchase decisions.
Equanimity
Member
by a frame or two.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
On 1.05 or before on 4K it used to go down to 27~ but based on this new video, it's been ironed out to a solid 30 there too. Unlocked is up and down a lot though, not anywhere locked 60.
I'll give you credit where it's due as you make a good point. However, I think most gamers have made up their mind long prior to DF videos and it then your point only really applies to those who own both consoles.
I still stand by my statement that it directly ignites a lot of fanyboyism and I'm sort of sick of hearing about technically shortcomings of consoles. We know they will always have them compared to PC. All it leads to is arguing and complaining that developers are inept at doing their jobs which is hyperbole to the extreme.
LordOfLore
Banned
I actually want to see Darksiders: Warmastered Edition for PS4 Pro.
I don't mind the PS4 Pro focus.
it's really a shame. the Xbox One version is the most neglected of the bunch. even the 360 version is objectively superior
Nixxes did the 360 version as well.
I know
Equanimity
Member
DF RETRO videos are fantastic!
Btw is anyone at DF going to take a look at Mafia 3 on the PS4 Pro?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yep, funny enough the 360 verison had a day 1 patch which actually improved the quality of the visuals, added more foliage, better lighting effects and water effects (eg Lara's clothing getting wet upto just her waist if she's in just waist high water) at absolutely no cost to performance. This is an older post which highlights some differences, I'm not sure whether the pics still load (I'm at work and most pictures don't work for me anyway, so copying here just in case anyone's interested).
Nixxes is amazing. There is also a 300mb day one patch (according to a player on TR forums) that improves the visuals even further compared to the leaked videos. Sorry about the black crush in the screens but these give an idea.
(missing sun effect)
(missing plants)
(missing plant shadows)
(missing wet efect and shadows)
Nixxess are absolute masters of taking code from Crystal Dynamics, Eidos etc and refining the shit out of it.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
The game is back to its best? No, it's not.
Framepacing is fixed, but the input lag has returned for the camera and aiming - it's not as bad as it originally was, but it's still enough to make the game feel quite a lot worse than it was with the previous patch. So damn annoying!
Framepacing is fixed, but the input lag has returned for the camera and aiming - it's not as bad as it originally was, but it's still enough to make the game feel quite a lot worse than it was with the previous patch. So damn annoying!
nope
The thing is, top developers work around and overcome those limitations. You can see this with the sheer number of nice looking, 60fps titles on Wii U or games like DOOM. Those are crafted experiences that take great advantage of consoles and PC alike to deliver great experiences. When a console game releases with serious issues it's not the console that should take the brunt of the criticism - it's the development efforts themselves.
dragonzdogma
Member
So it's official the pro is able to do miracles when devs
know how to use it?
pro- has been out for less than a month,
I'm expecting good things to come
know how to use it?
pro- has been out for less than a month,
I'm expecting good things to come
So it's official the pro is able to do miracles when devs
know how to use it?
pro- has been out for less than a month,
I'm expecting good things to come
I wouldn't call fixing framepacing a miracle.
Amazing, didn't know it. Nice one Nixxes.
Would be interesting to see more VR coverage(including head to heads with all the cross porting/multiple configurations), although I guess everything from capturing that isn't based on social-screens(those aren't representative on any hardware), to framerate measurements to pixel-counting doesn't work with existing methods on VR.dark10x said:
Well I was planning on getting Scorpio but ever since MS turned around and said they will be releasing games on Xbox and Windows 10 I was just going to buy a new GPU to replace my 980 Ti.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Oh sure guys, I did play the game. Doesn't change my thoughts about the visuals though, it was a great step forward and a pro patch would be cool. Best not to think too long about Shadow Fall anyway, reminds you that Horizon is no way a sure thing hah.
Didn't play anywhere and Scorpio happen on the same show, with Scorpio afterwards? That was a quick change in decision XD
Choose for yourself. It's super easy to swap modes in this game. Really something other developers should take to heart.
I want to have a shout out to Nixxes for really caring about the quality of this port, particularly in an age of ports and updates that seem to be shit out without testing, they've gone above and beyond to make sure they did a great job.
It would be if From Software could figure out how to do it.
the aliasing in high details mode kills it for me. super sampled 4K looks a lot better IMO
Supersampled. It's stunning.
No more frame pacing and acceptable lag, at least much better than XB1. And to think we had people in the original patch topic claiming how it was so much worse than ever now ...
The GAF hyperbole machine never ceases to amaze.
Pretty much this.
BLAUcopter
Gold Member
GTA V would be awesome.
FWIW patches that don't add new assets don't usually add to the file size of a game, they replace existing data
Pathfinder
Member
What's so funny (or ironic) about that? They had an extra year to work on the PS4 version.
I just find it weird that you blame DF because people use the facts that they bring to the table to be assholes.
And as enthusiasts many of us do own multiple consoles/PCs. Knowing the differences in versions allows a person like myself to weigh the titles that might be on sale on one platform but not on the other. In some cases I've bought games during Xbox sales because I knew the compromises on that platform were small enough to make the money saved worth it.
Another thing to remember is that sometimes there are outliers such as the handful of games that have had bad AA solutions on one console or the other for seemingly no reason.
For sure that's the way it's supposed to be with these simple delta patches. But at least on Xbox it's not uncommon for them to throw assets into what should be otherwise small patches. Halo 5 seems to be especially guilty.
Nachtfalke
Member
Something interesting I notied on the 4k-mode:
Some animations, like a few weather effect or animals in the distance are running at half-framerate. Could be weird ghosting effect, but I guess it's the first. I switched to other modes aswell and they are fine there (same framerate as the game), so I guess it's a little cutback for saving some performance costs.
Some animations, like a few weather effect or animals in the distance are running at half-framerate. Could be weird ghosting effect, but I guess it's the first. I switched to other modes aswell and they are fine there (same framerate as the game), so I guess it's a little cutback for saving some performance costs.