This was a positive look at the game and hardware yet that was your takeaway?Let it go Sony, the 4K dream isn't for you, 1080p@30/60 FPS with better graphics is preferable with the PS4 Pro power.
Even in this game, there are 1080p options.
This was a positive look at the game and hardware yet that was your takeaway?Let it go Sony, the 4K dream isn't for you, 1080p@30/60 FPS with better graphics is preferable with the PS4 Pro power.
Many will have supersampling, this game also has two alternate modes for 1080p with higher settings and an uncapped framerate.Does the PS4 Pro really need really need twice the GPU power to upscale the games to 4k? How much juice is needed to have HDR color info pumped out.
I'm just wondering what you get on 2k screens if the developers don't take advantage of it.
How much juice is needed to have HDR color info pumped out.
You guys are brutal, defending your systems as if they were your children.
PS4 Pro gonna poop on your kids
November will be interesting
If ps4 pro costs 400$ then it should be on same level with 400$ gpu, but it isnt so gg no re.
Many will have supersampling, this game also has two alternate modes for 1080p with higher settings and an uncapped framerate.
HDR shouldn't take any real performance, the games already have HDR. All its doing now is that instead of converting the dynamic range rendered by the game to a 256 colour space via tone mapping, it is converting it to 1024 colour space.Does the PS4 Pro really need really need twice the GPU power to upscale the games to 4k? How much juice is needed to have HDR color info pumped out.
I'm just wondering what you get on 2k screens if the developers don't take advantage of it.
I don't understand why people think ps4 pro needs to match pc to better compete with it. For $100 more, you can double your gpu power and turn out much better looking graphics. That will detour some people from going to pc. Ps4 pro helps close the gap in 2016, not overcome it, and that's ok.
Anything related to draw distance (of geometry, shadows etc) is CPU dependant. So Pro games won't really do much better in that area than PS4.
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You figure 60 fps mode on most games can be done at almost no cost. Just like the supposed HDR mode.
Maybe other things like draw distances etc. would be better.
Does the PS4 Pro really need really need twice the GPU power to upscale the games to 4k? How much juice is needed to have HDR color info pumped out.
I'm just wondering what you get on 2k screens if the developers don't take advantage of it.
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People who need to validate their PC
Dunno, seems like a lot of people who need to validate their PS4 Pro preorders.
Wait what?...If ps4 pro costs 400$ then it should be on same level with 400$ gpu, but it isnt so gg no re.
Also, are there regular PS4/Xbox One shots to compare with these?
I don't understand the comparison between PC and PS4Pro. Of course the PC looks better. I think people are way more concerned about what the difference between the consoles are?
Maybe I'm wrong though.
If ps4 pro costs 400$ then it should be on same level with 400$ gpu, but it isnt so gg no re.
If ps4 pro costs 400$ then it should be on same level with 400$ gpu, but it isnt so gg no re.
Does the PS4 Pro really need really need twice the GPU power to upscale the games to 4k? How much juice is needed to have HDR color info pumped out.
I'm just wondering what you get on 2k screens if the developers don't take advantage of it.
Why would 60fps come at no cost? The CPU upclock is only 30%. Your asking developers to double it with only a 30% jump? Even with the GPU overhead, the CPU is not going to let that happen in most games.
If ps4 pro costs 400$ then it should be on same level with 400$ gpu, but it isnt so gg no re.
60 fps ain't happening with the jaguars, folk.This race for 4K on consoles is too soon.
At least get most things to 60fps 1080p with AA before moving on.
It's upscaling to 4k but a resolution higher than 1440p. DF concludes it's something around 1800p, and then using checkerboard rending to take it up to 2160p (4k)
I also don't understand the controversy of this thread. The Pro is natively rendering well over 2x's the amount of native pixels as a native 1080p image. That's where the resources are going. It's not going to do that, and ON TOP OF THAT, bump visual settings from high to very high on resources that are tapped out.
Thus I fully expect visuals to improve at native 1080p mode. The only question than is, what would provide the better image?: 4k supersampled on a 1080p tv or 1080p native with highest graphical presets?
That's what I'm talking about, if I can buy a single $400 GPU and play all the sexy PC games with bells & whistles on said GPU alone w/out ANY other components needed(Mobo, CPU, RAM, etc...) why can't I get the same thing in a $400 PS4 Pro. Sony, are you even fucking trying at this point?If ps4 pro costs 400$ then it should be on same level with 400$ gpu, but it isnt so gg no re.
According to cerny it's next to no cost in performance for hdr in games.Does the PS4 Pro really need really need twice the GPU power to upscale the games to 4k? How much juice is needed to have HDR color info pumped out.
I'm just wondering what you get on 2k screens if the developers don't take advantage of it.
I just meant development wise.
That's what I'm talking about, if I can buy a single $400 GPU and play all the sexy PC games with bells & whistles on said GPU alone w/out ANY other components needed(Mobo, CPU, RAM, etc...) why can't I get the same thing in a $400 PS4 Pro. Sony, are you even fucking trying at this point?
So you got your cpu, mobo, ram, case, and psu for free?
That's what I'm talking about, if I can buy a single $400 GPU and play all the sexy PC games with bells & whistles on said GPU alone w/out ANY other components needed(Mobo, CPU, RAM, etc...) why can't I get the same thing in a $400 PS4 Pro. Sony, are you even fucking trying at this point?
Quick question - could I run the 1080p/30fps version on a 4K TV, or would it default to 4K ?
So you got your cpu, mobo, ram, case, and psu for free?
PC will always brute force better graphics but look how close this comparison is:
You will be able to choose. That is the point of 3 settings to suit your preferred viewing experience.
It would depend on the graphical advantages. You got 2.5 times more gpu raw power along with a bump in bandwidth and cpu. My guess is msaa 2-4x/fxaa combo to really clean up the visuals along with what for honor is doing for 1080p mode : higher res textures, better ssr, increased ground density with more grass, better motion blur. That is a bigger difference imo than 4k upres which you can tell from a mile away is not native and default ps4 graphical effects.It's upscaling to 4k but a resolution higher than 1440p. DF concludes it's something around 1800p, and then using checkerboard rending to take it up to 2160p (4k)
I also don't understand the controversy of this thread. The Pro is natively rendering over 2x's the amount of native pixels as a native 1080p image. That's where the resources are going. It's not going to do that, and ON TOP OF THAT, bump visual settings from high to very high on resources that are tapped out.
Thus I fully expect visuals to improve at native 1080p mode. The only question than is, what would provide the better image?: 4k supersampled on a 1080p tv or 1080p native with highest graphical presets?
Dunno, seems like a lot of people who need to validate their PS4 Pro preorders.
Awesome, but is that the case for any game ? I.e. could I play The Last of Us Remastered at 1080p/60fps rather then 4K/30fps or a game like Uncharted 4 at 1080p/30fps rather then 4K/30fps ?
It would depend on the graphical advantages. You got 2.5 times more gpu raw power along with a bump in bandwidth and cpu. My guess is msaa 2-4x/fxaa combo to really clean up the visuals along with what for honor is doing for 1080p mode : higher res textures, better ssr, increased ground density with more grass, better motion blur. That is a bigger difference imo than 4k upres which you can tell from a mile away is not native and default ps4 graphical effects.
I think it depends on the game. the onus is on to developers to allow explicit modes to choose from other than what you'll automatically get depending on what type of TV you're connected to
Under-performing the 4K meme is expected, but as long as it keeps up well at 1080/60 it's pretty ok for it's price point.
You won't be able to tell beyond 50 inches anyway.
No it won't. It'll likely look worse than the 4k Pro because of a lack of HDR.
It will be interesting to see what kind of "improvements" the PS4 Pro brings to a 1080p screen, if any at all.
I think sarcasm.