Welfare
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So either he misspoke about the worldwide statement or whatever data they have shows the One has been outselling the PS4 worldwide. I think the latter is BS, so it has to a misspeaking.
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EA CFO: XBO Pricing Strategy Catching up to PS4, expects 25M PS4+XB1 after holidays
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So either he misspoke about the worldwide statement or whatever data they have shows the One has been outselling the PS4 worldwide. I think the latter is BS, so it has to a misspeaking.
umm... I have some bad news for you. You better sit down.
no way in hell to believe XBONE is on track to surpass 60M at its first year rate and with PS4 dominance
Cornbread78
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Zekra Dezivad
Member
By the end of the year they'll reach easily 30 million combined (shipped)
SerTapTap
Member
To me that definitely sounds like they're talking about catching up to Sony's lead, not pricing strategy. Their pricing strategy is identical since early this year so that doesn't even make sense.
CosmicQueso
Member
He's being misquoted, badly.
He was talking specifically about how the consoles are PRICED, not how they are SELLING.
You're not speaking CFO. Sony's "pricing strategy" in this case is its launch pricing and its bundling. He's saying the Microsoft is catching up to Sony's leadership in pricing quickly by dropping the price and doing its bundling.
ughh... some you guys do take brand worshiping into a next level of obnoxious
HORRORSHØW
Member
sounds like loser talk.
Thanks. Didn't want to overshoot there, but the 10mil sold through sounded pretty old news to me and the number should have been higher.
shadowsdarknes
Member
Huh? There's no "method" to that. The federal government is not trying to imply that our national debt is decreasing. They never were and there's no special accounting to attribute towards our falling deficit.
There's a clear distinction between deficit and total debt and there's no deception on the governments part about it.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Tired of seeing that y2kev post used as Gospel. He makes good points, but I feel the industry would look unhealthy if a big platform suddenly loses a lot of marketshare. Also, comparing it to cola seems kind of absurd. It's not like we want cola to do well so we get to drink improved cola 6-7 years down the line.
At this point, I wouldn't bet my house on X1 doing over 60M
So does it demand a thread title change for lack of specificity? Won't give Gamespot a click - just how it's....
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Sony was at 13.5M sold in months ago.
15M at the end of the holidays would be terrible, considering how the back half of the year usually makes a vast majority of sales. 17M bare minimum, is my estimate.
spatenfloot
Member
This is exactly why Microsoft makes the kind of PR statements that they do.
What, we can't have opinions about PR statements that are BS?
He must have meant US.... or weekly or something The only way this would work is if MS has sold an extra 5 mill somewhere
Ye, I would assume he only means US.
That your estimate seems far more grounded in reality than what's coming from EA's CFO is pretty entertaining. Either it's spin, or they need leadership that doesn't take their parters' word at face value. MS may be closing the gap on the first derivative (getting closer to getting closer) but they're still losing headway in most regions and it remains to be seen if their momentum over the past few weeks is remotely sustainable.
It's not a given that PS4 will top 20M by the end of the year, but it will at least be close. For the combined total to be anywhere near as low as 25M would millions of Xbox returns where in reality they're going to see healthy sales in the US at least. 30M combined feels a little conservative, if anything.
again, that 13.5M is sold in. Realistically sold-through is maybe 12M right now. They basically have to sell 2.5M a month to hit your numbers. Unlikely.
edit - lol... if by "months" ago you mean 3 weeks... it was PR from the end of October
How are they catching up to Sony's pricing strategies exactly?
Sony hasn't made any adjustments to the price. All they have done is bundle games.
Wasn't MS the first to give away free games with the X1?
Dragonborn
Member
It'll be lucky to do 40. Seriously, people who think it'll do 50 or more, mind telling me where exactly they're going to get those sales from?
Ps4 would've had to simply had stopped selling worldwide for his statement to be truth. Two weeks of strong Xbox sales in one region has gone to some people's heads. Xb1 is pretty much doa in mainland Europe and Japan.
60 million for XB1???
Not a chance in hell.
They'd be lucky to hit 50 million.
Nah, EA being PR for MS is what's obnoxious here.
CosmicQueso
Member
Based on the conversation, yes.
An interesting conversation can be had on pricing strategies between the two boxes, as MS has indeed tried to catch up.
As it is, however...
Don't confuse tactics with strategy. Sony's pricing strategy may or may not involve tactics like price drops. Sony's strategy can be EDLP with some bundling, while Microsoft is having to play hi-lo and do more bundles. That's what dude is referring to.
To be fair he didn't say catch up in the sense it's a guaranteed, they way I read it, he meant the Xbox one is out selling the PS4 in the US lately because of the price drop and bundles (I'm assuming the article quoted him out of context, he meant US not WW). It wouldn't be surprising if M.S. wins NPD this month, but I doubt M.S. Will put too much of a dent in the PS4 1 million US lead.
Garrett 2U
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Well it's awesome that Microsoft was able to refocus the Xbox division, hope to continue to see great things from them.
Agreed.
Maybe competition isn't absolutely necessary, but it certainly isn't a bad thing.
Agreed.
Maybe competition isn't absolutely necessary, but it certainly isn't a bad thing.
That's still a better ratio than what people think it is currently. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who still think the Xbone hasn't passed the 6 million sold mark.
Not that obnoxious compared to yourself.
rokkerkory
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Unprecedented Partnership!!
I'm guessing we'll see updated numbers from Sony at their conference in December since Sony isn't one to give out their numbers outside of hitting benchmarks.
Dragonborn
Member
It probably did, but likely still not at 7 million (or just barely)
Freedom = $1.05
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there's nothing to assume. he's saying that sony had a good pricing strategy with their $400 machine, and now MS has a good strategy with the $350 price and the packed in games. It's pretty clear cut.
have it occur to you maybe they saying this because their numbers show an improvement? I mean they are a multi platform publisher... Why would they even care?
If true why would even bother you? its a positive note for the industry as a whole... But of course this being MS showing an improvement, sure there is conspiracy going on... right..
shadowsdarknes
Member
I'd expect more than 25 million shipped.
The Xbox will likely hit 10 million shipped while the PS4 will hit 18 to 19 million shipped.
The Xbox will likely hit 10 million shipped while the PS4 will hit 18 to 19 million shipped.
CosmicQueso
Member
Someone gets it.
aspiegamer
Member
Why would the CFO of EA stick his neck out and say anything like this at all? There's no need. When someone blindly says that on this forum without proof we call it blatant console warring. CFO of EA a console warrior no better than many of his consumers confirmed, and we all know that console wars are serious business. Oh, and obligatory WiiUlookingOutTheWindow.gif.
They're throwing bundles of money at one another in the EA corporate offices regardless of the leading platform. No need for weird statements like this.
And I'd certainly hope we'd get to 25 million this year. The GAF consensus estimate on the PS4 seemed to be ~18M in the last sales update thread we had and ~9M for Microsoft. Edit: Both those might seem a little low now, actually. ~19-20 and ~9.5-10 seem doable.
They're throwing bundles of money at one another in the EA corporate offices regardless of the leading platform. No need for weird statements like this.
And I'd certainly hope we'd get to 25 million this year. The GAF consensus estimate on the PS4 seemed to be ~18M in the last sales update thread we had and ~9M for Microsoft. Edit: Both those might seem a little low now, actually. ~19-20 and ~9.5-10 seem doable.
turnbuckle
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Not in Japan.
Then again, the PS4 might have the largest % share of the market of a region in Japan relative to the XB1.
Of the 2 next gen consoles, the PS4 had over 95% of total hardware sales in Japan last week.
But that pie has gotten a lot smaller over there.
lmao.
I highly doubt the X1 will reach 60 million, it's impossible without dominating the US and UK market, which there not.
I think this is pretty great news and shows that the console market is as healthy as ever.
People keep talking about "The End of Consoles" but we're about one year in and we're seeing pretty great numbers and will most likely see continued growth in 2015.
I think folks should stop thinking of themselves as console warriors and more of industry advocates, because this just means we'll see more growth in the industry.
People keep talking about "The End of Consoles" but we're about one year in and we're seeing pretty great numbers and will most likely see continued growth in 2015.
I think folks should stop thinking of themselves as console warriors and more of industry advocates, because this just means we'll see more growth in the industry.
Fuck UBISOFT.
Isn't that what happened after the SNES between the PS1 and N64?
The PS2 dominated as well and to this day has the best and most varied library of games ever with a huge install base and a shit ton of software sold.