Kenzodielocke
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Nintendo Switch aka you have to buy x to make it better. Really feels like it to me.
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Each Online match in Splatoon 2 barely consumes ~3% of battery
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Copper
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I don't think a Switch XL is happening. I mean the Switch is already pretty big. For now the solution is to just carry a battery pack.
They are not even that much. And have you ever tried gaming on a phone or tablet? Battery life is not good.
The S8 is also $800
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Depends which app doesnt it? Also, smartphones tend to run a lot more stuff in the background.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Not of manufacturing costs... if you think a phone like the iPhone 7/7 Plus costs Apple, to name one, anywhere close to $800 you are kidding yourself and buying into their marketing hype (which is helping them aim towards becoming a company valued $1 trillion before the end of the decade).
Mbolibombo
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This fella mad. Just because Nintendo has a ton of money to put out a super expensive product, doesnt mean customers could afford to buy it. You're not going to sell a Nintendo console for 400-500$ it's not going to happen.
Maintenance
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Copper
Member
The same can be said about any consoles/ device. I thought we learned this with the PS3 launch.
Huge Succeeded
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I don't really think that it does depend on the app. Even a phone like the S8 couldn't run a game like Mario Kart 8 or Splatoon 2 for quite as long as the Switch could due to thermal and battery constraints.
And smartphones are designed to have multiple apps running (or stored into ram) quietly and efficiently in the background. Lightweight apps running in the background on your phone aren't comparable to full-fat video games in terms of how they tax a device. That's been apparent for as long as even modestly taxing video games have existed on mobile platforms.
Feels that way.
mocolostrocolos
Member
Gotta love people who expect console online gaming on the go in a hardware that has a battery of 4000mah with an 8-player multiplayer and 60fps to last more than their average mobile game that drains their cell phone's battery in an hour.
Talking about reality checks.
Let's be clear. Battery tech is what it is, and sadly, it's very limited. And there has to be a balance between the hardware specs, battery and form factor.
For those saying the thread backfire, I really don't take into account those who just say "lol that's terrible" without arguing why or thinking about the hardware itself.
As someone has said, maybe my battery is faulty. But I don't think so. Zelda lasts the 2.5-3 hours everyone is experiencing.
Oh, and yes, for those who asked, I play at maximum brightness. Gotta love them colors.
Talking about reality checks.
Let's be clear. Battery tech is what it is, and sadly, it's very limited. And there has to be a balance between the hardware specs, battery and form factor.
For those saying the thread backfire, I really don't take into account those who just say "lol that's terrible" without arguing why or thinking about the hardware itself.
As someone has said, maybe my battery is faulty. But I don't think so. Zelda lasts the 2.5-3 hours everyone is experiencing.
Oh, and yes, for those who asked, I play at maximum brightness. Gotta love them colors.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Run a full 3D AAA game at 720p 60fps constantly pinging a network on your phone and see how long the battery lasts, lol.
I have to agree. It's not a great solution, but it's the only one available. If you have a portable device you'll need a battery pack of some capacity if you want to game while traveling.
If you are home, just use the charger or play it docked. Motion controls for Splatoon isn't that good in portable mode, so you sort of have to play it docked if you want to use that control method anyway.
Retro Edge
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It's not like you can't use it on any other device, such as tablets or mobile phones.
It's something that's so useful, everyone should have one in general.
Buy a 30,000MaH battery pack for your portable console.
So this is the power of 2017.....the future....is now.............
I also blame Nintendo for not breaking the laws of energy conservation.
Mr. Badger
Member
Yeah this post is nonsense.
I've played for just gone 2 hours this morning and still have 45% battery.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
I've played for just gone 2 hours this morning and still have 45% battery.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I am not suggesting they should have released an expensive product to customers, but invested more in non recurring R&D costs (and eat into maybe initial profit margins a tad more). It is not the consumers fault of the arrogant launch of the 3DS and the following ambassador program and massive price reduction, it is not their fault the company derided the competition when they were laying the seeds for online networks for games, it is not their fault for the launch state of the Wii U or for the draught of games in the year or so preceding Wii Us launch, and it is not their fault if Nintendo had to rush Switch out of the door.
Do they want to put the early stumbles of the 3DS and the Wii U behind them and regain their status as console leader like they used to? It is going to cost them. Not sure why the bar must be set so low for them as a company no matter the great awesome games they bring.
The battery is fine for casual play outside. If you want more power a power bank seems like an easy solution.
I took it out to my cousins house and I was able to play some single player, multiplayer and also three or four games of Tetris and it consumed half my battery.
Given what the system does is totally understanble.
I took it out to my cousins house and I was able to play some single player, multiplayer and also three or four games of Tetris and it consumed half my battery.
Given what the system does is totally understanble.
mocolostrocolos
Member
Max brightness?
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Sorry, but just follow the initially super mega strict background processing rules iOS laid out compared to Android (and their battery savings mode now) and the way Android is going with O about limiting background processes activity and forcing batches requests... the reality in most phones is that between applications trying to use GPS in the background, trying to refresh data in the the background (network becomes available and tons of processes wake up demanding network access), push notifications, etc... the battery drain may not be severe per app (keyword is may here), but death by a thousand cuts seem a bit apt.
Mr. Badger
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It's on auto brightness.
Why would I play it on max brightness? I value my eyes.
Even my pixel XL dies in about 5 minutes if I use max brightness just for browsing and Twitter.
are you serious? You're happy with 90 minutes battery life?
In 2017?
If they want to market this as a portable console they have to fix this asap. I was planning on getting one when Odyssey comes out.. but the shitty battery is making this decision harder than it should be. I really hope they can make it somehow more efficient (kinda like some fw upgrades make your phone run longer)
Mr. Badger
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farscape82
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I just played online for 30 minutes and still have 84 % battery power left.
Or it's the battery indicator like we had a thread about in the past with Kotaku.
It can happen with phones too, my phone was fully charged but it turned itself off(issue with old phone), when I turned it back on and went to use it for 5-10 minutes, it was already at 95% battery left. However, after a while the battery depletion stopped happening so fast.
My assumption is that the battery temperature affected the indicator reading, batteries last the longest around room temperature, if they are too hot or too cold their charge depletes faster.
Charging the battery increases its temperature hence why it could screw with the battery indicator.
Mr. Badger
Member
It's my guess too.
My wife's iPhone 6S Plus can get to 1% really quick and then be on 1% for ages.
My pixel can be on 100% for a while and then just drop like A Huckabee would falling out of a plane.
Even still. 2 people, 3 people out of millions is not the basis for a problem.
Spiritreaver
Member
I'm also getting 2-3 hours. Did an hour of Salmon Run (coop) and it dropped to 66% from full. Then did a few PVP matches (3) and it dropped 7% for ~10 minutes.
75% brightness, auto-brightness on. Someone else can do an accurate test.
My Redmi Note 4 has a 4100mah battery. And that's a fucking 4.5 inch phone..
So maybe the battery isn't shitty, but certainly not big enough. If something pisses me off it's portables with short battery life, no matter if phones, tablets, laptops or game consoles.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Where on the flat Earth is this good?
Mr. Badger
Member
Great for you.
That's not the norm whatsoever.
Nor does it make any other phone or the switch shitty either.
So people read a thread in full before posting?
About the same for me, and would make sense considering what's been said about the battery overall and what I've been getting in Zelda. Have not made a completely accurate test, but it's been around that level of battery drainage for me.
Would very much like someone reputable to test this out so all the kneejerk reactions/rants can stop.
Theonik
Member
It doesn't. BoTW kills it in 2.5hrs. Online be games will be even worse.
Oh, so Nintendo couldn't have possibly used a bigger battery cause it isn't the norm? wtf
Mr. Badger
Member
Of course they could.
They could also have provided you with a car battery or nuclear waste to power it, but that would just be silly wouldn't it and also not fit in the design they wanted in your hands.
You could say every bloody phone should come with a 4100 battery because your phone did. But that's not how things work.
I find in situations like this I need to back out so I will.
Vampirolol
Member
I'd like to give a report but my battery indicator is crazy. But I can imagine why a 1080p 60fps multiplayer online game could drain the charge so much.
Agreed. A S7 or new IPhone would be able to output BOTW/Splatoon 2 at a 1080 at 60fps easily. Wouldn't be surprised if it could run for 5 hours +
Just wish someone would port it over.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Then maybe it isn't a very well designed system? Could've gone with OLED for lower energy consumption. Or better wifi chips, because with how weak WLAN reception is on Switch a lot of data has to be send multiple times before it arrives without errors. They could've designed the Joycons for average hande sizes, so they would include bigger batteries there. As it stands, the Switch does nothing exceptionally well.
Not sure if sarcastic or not.
I'm gonna err on the side of caution and go with the former.
AndyMoogle
Member
Unless you're sitting outside with the sun directly at the screen, I don't see why you would ever have max brightness.
Garrett Hawke
Member
I charged my device overnight thur, played 45m Friday evening and 35m today in bed
I was still on 36% after 80m
I was still on 36% after 80m
Vampirolol
Member
All the things you are referring to have a cost, both in money and size. Remember that their goal was to sell the thing, not to make the perfect system for 400, and the Switch is selling like crazy. I'd say it actually does some things exceptionally well, otherwise we would be seeing a Wii U situation.
I read it as sarcasm too but not sure if wishful thinking or not!