demosthenes
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The entire game industry is constantky between a rock and a hard place.
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Edge #256: Why PS4 is your next console (Shots fired, post-DRM 180)
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The entire game industry is constantky between a rock and a hard place.
MagicWithEarvin
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MikeJAMoran
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This!
MikeE21286
Member
Lol wow
"Our extended Hype section takes in the biggest and most significant new games to emerge from this years E3, including Metal Gear Solid 5, The Division, Titanfall, Battlefield 4, Watch Dogs, Dark Souls II, Final Fantasy XV and many more."
Why is there no PS4 exclusive in that list then ?
Why is there no PS4 exclusive in that list then ?
One can post an editorial condemning Microsoft's mistakes with the X1 without plastering a PS4 advertisement on the front page of your magazine.
Whoa, that is a very strong statement for a group like Edge to take.
That said, if you lay out all that we know about the PS4 and Xbox One, it's really hard to say the latter is the console gamers should get. The PS4 is $100, grants access to a library of games that is 97% similar to the X1, and it has better hardware. The conclusion you get when you boil this down to its core.
Oh, damn. Now I'm really interested to see what's in this piece.
That said, if you lay out all that we know about the PS4 and Xbox One, it's really hard to say the latter is the console gamers should get. The PS4 is $100, grants access to a library of games that is 97% similar to the X1, and it has better hardware. The conclusion you get when you boil this down to its core.
MikeJAMoran said:
Oh, damn. Now I'm really interested to see what's in this piece.
Edge represents a nuke?
Since when were 95% of gamers opting in for a PS4? Source? Some of us are getting both platforms? Some exclusive.
Great post, shame it'll get lost in the hyperbole.
Edge said:
Do we now the details of how Sony crushed MS? Because, apart from the DRM thing, that now isn't worth much since the 180 turn MS took, and the price (which counts a lot, to be honest), I have to say that Microsoft had a better showing when it comes to games, in my opinion (also considering FFXV and KH3 are not PS4 exclusive).
Anyway, feels weird to have EDGE stating this on the cover. Kinda makes me want to disregard their opinion completely. And this is coming from someone who never had a Xbox product and is not even interested in buying a Xbox180.
slightconfuse
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Damn the is ice cold
Miles Quaritch
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Tell me more about this "golden generation".
cookie-monster
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The PS4 is a huge reason why the mistakes are so glaring.
NemesisPrime
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If E3 was about games... X1 would have won easily, but apparently people went emo for stuff that has been all around us for years now. Sony just ass kissed all the hardcore geeks and people just bought it. Edge should know better.... what a joke of a cover TBH.
Another reason why tablets and phones will run the consoles into the ground this generation. It feels like the big bubble of the 80s.
Gemüsepizza
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It's not a great post, because this happened at E3 2006.
cookie-monster
Member
Check out any 'best console ever' lists.
This is what concerns you? That MS's sizable mistakes aren't being dealt with in a quiet and secretive manner lest Sony get some kind of advantage..., in a TWO HORSE RACE?!
Screaming Meat
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Translation: Sony looked at what customer's wanted and adjusted their product accordingly... THE VILE FIENDS!!!
Shame it's been called out like half a dozen times to in fact be not a great post at all.
Just so it doesn't get lost in the hyperbole.
You are really bending history here. Sony had bad showing on E3 2006 when they announced price. In 2005 they showcased console architecture and awesome tech demos [and CGI].
Miles Quaritch
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Oh hey stalker guy.
Did you even my post or are you still riding the stupid console wars bandwagon and seeing shit that isn't there?
MikeJAMoran
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If you want an idea of what the article probably contains:
http://www.edge-online.com/features/e3-2013-microsoft-press-conference-review/
http://www.edge-online.com/features/e3-2013-sony-press-conference-review/
Like a lot of outlets, and to be honest, anecdotally, most of what I read here on Gaf, Edge thought Sony had a better showing.
See above.
No, it's inaccurate. The cover was from E3 2005, his content was from E3 2006.
E3 2005 = look, bullshots, more powerful than 360.
E3 2006 = $599, RIIIDDGGEEE RACER.
http://www.edge-online.com/features/e3-2013-microsoft-press-conference-review/
http://www.edge-online.com/features/e3-2013-sony-press-conference-review/
Like a lot of outlets, and to be honest, anecdotally, most of what I read here on Gaf, Edge thought Sony had a better showing.
See above.
No, it's inaccurate. The cover was from E3 2005, his content was from E3 2006.
E3 2005 = look, bullshots, more powerful than 360.
E3 2006 = $599, RIIIDDGGEEE RACER.
Miles Quaritch
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Yeah, you'll have to link them as I'm on my phone.
E3 2006 was the RIIIIIIIDGE RAAAACCEEERRR conference, not 2005.
This right here....,
Is everything that is wrong with this thread. Don't let little things like FACTS get in the way of your point.
After all we have a console war to win on behalf of a multi national corporation that doesn't give a fuck about us.
Urgh.
Is everything that is wrong with this thread. Don't let little things like FACTS get in the way of your point.
After all we have a console war to win on behalf of a multi national corporation that doesn't give a fuck about us.
Urgh.
NemesisPrime
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If you believe this, go for it.
Actually terrible post with most facts wrong but don't let that stop you.
I would encourage everyone to please ratchet it down a notch.
pre-order data post E3?
Happily, it didn't. It got called out for being a year off target instead.
I also accepted the correction when it was made, just a few posts later. I thought the 2006 conference was the one in 2005.
The only fact wrong was the year. Everything else was correct regarding the conference I was referring to.
Gemüsepizza
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Why are you lying? This whole DRM crap hasn't been around on consoles ever. And you call it "ass kissing" when Sony said that they will not have this? And when they announce a console which is more powerful than the Xbox One for $100 less? So announcing a good product now is ass kissing? You are so biased, it's incredible.
Because the Xbox One will not be as successful? The only thing that will happen is more people will buy a PS4.
It is clearly a conspiracy!
I highly doubt that a golden age can happen again, with today's market situation.
Lack of competition is always bad. People who hope for that have learned nothing, from previous generations.
Not helped by gamers not knowing what they want from games journalism, as evidenced by this thread.
Some people in this thread are commenting and have literally zero idea what they want from the specialist press. Absolutely none.
I say it's disgusting because I wouldn't buy a magazine to be told want to do with my money. The cover is not informative, it's telling you that you will need to buy a PS4 because it is the only right decision.
I would have expected the likes of "x number of reasons why ps4 is awesome" and that's it, but it's literally telling me that ps4 is the only option.
What kind of information is that? I will make my mind after I read the facts, you as a journalist don't have a word on what I like and what I don't like and of course you don't have a fucking clue about what will happen the next 7 years. What if ps4 fails as vita did? Maybe they can see the future, but I can't see how is appropriate of them to tell me to get a ps4 exclusively if I have to choose a console.
It's not appropriate of any kind of informative media to tell you what to do, they are there to inform (or at least they should), not to sell you on things.
Edit: and of course I'm only commenting on what I see on the cover, like everyone else in this thread. The article could be an amazing read, but I hate what I see on the cover.
I would have expected the likes of "x number of reasons why ps4 is awesome" and that's it, but it's literally telling me that ps4 is the only option.
What kind of information is that? I will make my mind after I read the facts, you as a journalist don't have a word on what I like and what I don't like and of course you don't have a fucking clue about what will happen the next 7 years. What if ps4 fails as vita did? Maybe they can see the future, but I can't see how is appropriate of them to tell me to get a ps4 exclusively if I have to choose a console.
It's not appropriate of any kind of informative media to tell you what to do, they are there to inform (or at least they should), not to sell you on things.
Edit: and of course I'm only commenting on what I see on the cover, like everyone else in this thread. The article could be an amazing read, but I hate what I see on the cover.
People only want tough stances when it's not their favourite corporation and/or game in the firing lines.
BlazingDarkness
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Xbone costs more than the PS3 did at launch in the UK.
Let that sink in for a moment.
Let that sink in for a moment.
Again: you can pen an editorial on the X1's troubles without running an add on the PS4. Here's an example of an appropriate headline that isn't an outright advertisement for the PS4:
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[B]Is the PS4 your next console?[/B]
--Why the PS4 might be the console for you.It accomplishes the same thing without blatantly spinning one way or the other. It frames the article as something that might provide you with information to make an informed decision, while the title as it is now tells you outright to buy the PS4, and that it is the only decision.
It's an ad, and an utterly shameless one at that.
Screaming Meat
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You mean, do I believe a company would want to create a product that customer's want so they can make money...? It's Rule #1 of Business, isn't it?
Is this what EDGE is saying, or is this your opinion, because I'm mainly interested on the reasoning EDGE used to affirm that. No offence.
The cover you post is neither positive nor negative, it shows that that issue has info on the PS3 nothing more. The cover you link is more a testament to how exciting that game was at the time. and SHOCK HORROR "bad" consoles can have good games! XBO has forza and halo, which are by all accounts good games.
if there is a cover post e3 2006 that declares "PS3 is the only console to own" you have a point. until then, You come across as pulling at straws
£430 is doing enough damage by itself.
It's like MS are trying too hard to match Sonys universal mess-up with PS3...even as far as matching the price!
You got anything to back that up aside from "lol"? This isn't 4chan.
CyberChulo
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HOLY SHITTIES! I used to buy Edge in the US but they became really expensive and I stopped. But I will spend money on this issue!
cookie-monster
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I'm arguing for software competition over hardware competition. Dominant consoles reduce the costs and risks of making experimental games because the target market is less fractured and the costs of porting are removed.
Who does that? The title is everything journalism shouldn't be. It would be a bit more acceptable if it was one guy who said that but to make it endorse by an entire magazine is disturbing if not disgusting.
Another sad landmark for game journalism. Ever seen a paper saying "vote for him/her" ? Or, "this is the good guy" ? They could at least try to make it seem well thought out. Something like "why we prefered Sony's showing" or "why we think the PS4 is better" would be more reasonable, and smart. It won't make up for the opinion that Edge is a shitty magazine and Sony sell outs...
It does say "the $99 console of the future" not "the best console out there" or something. It's not as bad.This one's reals though:
Glorified G
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I'm really glad they went with this cover just to see these type of reactions. It's well worth it.
Easily? I doubt that,plenty of games were multiplatform and it's not like Sony hasn't showed 5 exclusives yet.