serversurfer
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^^^ Agreed.
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EDGE: Sonys VR tech will be revealed at GDC
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mhayze
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Half. Goddamn. Life. 3.
Goddamn needs to be part of the official title.
The Last Guardian. It's the fucking reason why it's been delayed this whole time!!!
Wow, that seems almost comically optimistic for a product which hasn't even been definitively confirmed to exist yet.
If Sony were to pull such a thing off, they will have single-handedly trumped the entire field of VR without anyone spilling the beans in the process. Which I suppose is possible, given Sony's R&D clout, but it doesn't seem very likely.
serversurfer
Member
No one has spilled the beans? We've had like 50 threads on the subject. 
Plus, this is just the logical extension of a product we've known about for five years Move. That's why I'm baffled by those who say Sony can never "catch" Oculus; do they not realize Crystal Cove's amazing "new" tracking system is precisely the same system Sony gave us half a decade ago? Who's catching up to whom here?? =/
Plus, this is just the logical extension of a product we've known about for five years Move. That's why I'm baffled by those who say Sony can never "catch" Oculus; do they not realize Crystal Cove's amazing "new" tracking system is precisely the same system Sony gave us half a decade ago? Who's catching up to whom here?? =/
VanCityGamer
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This is exactly what I think will happen too. Smaller-sized reveal at GDC, big part of E3 conference, and then a Fall 2014 release.
There's no way it's comically optimistic. None of us can know for sure what will happen, and these are all just opinions. But it's certainly plausible that it will release in the Fall.
Dash Kappei
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VanCityGamer
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It's kind of annoying to be so definitive about something that you can't be definitive about. It makes me really hope it happens just to prove that you shouldn't act so sure. You THINK it will happen but you don't KNOW.
thunder_snail
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It took 9 month from reveal to release of ps4.
Sidewinder
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foamdino
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I'd put money on http://evevalkyrie.com/ being on the Sony VR headset alongside the Oculus.
CCP have worked closely with Sony for Dust 514, they even mentioned that EVE Valkyrie is not an Oculus exclusive at some point (and then backtracked when they realized that sounded stupid - covering up for letting slip that there's another VR contender in my opinion!
CCP have worked closely with Sony for Dust 514, they even mentioned that EVE Valkyrie is not an Oculus exclusive at some point (and then backtracked when they realized that sounded stupid - covering up for letting slip that there's another VR contender in my opinion!
Rogue_Ledr
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I'd put money on http://evevalkyrie.com/ being on the Sony VR headset alongside the Oculus.
CCP have worked closely with Sony for Dust 514, they even mentioned that EVE Valkyrie is not an Oculus exclusive at some point (and then backtracked when they realized that sounded stupid - covering up for letting slip that there's another VR contender in my opinion!
That game would be perfect for this peripheral.
I hope Sony really courts developers making VR titles to get a lot of support for this thing.
It would be a big deal if Sony announced on E3 that Squadron 42 will arrive on PS4 + PS4VR. That game will be much more ambitious and visually stunning than Eve Valkyrie [who is maybe receiving dev funding from OculusVR for exclusivity]. Although how can RSI make S42 run in 60/72/90fps for VR on PS4... nobody knows.
Rogue_Ledr
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It would be a big deal if Sony announced on E3 that Squadron 42 will arrive on PS4 + PS4VR. That game will be much more ambitious and visually stunning than Eve Valkyrie [who is maybe receiving dev funding from OculusVR for exclusivity]. Alghouth how can RSI make S42 run in 60/72/90fps for VR on PS4... nobody knows.
That would be awesome, but what would be even more incredible is if Sony picked up that game "No Man's Sky" and made it a PS4 VR game.
That games looks like it would be perfect for VR.
Did you miss the news?I'd put money on http://evevalkyrie.com/ being on the Sony VR headset alongside the Oculus.
CCP have worked closely with Sony for Dust 514, they even mentioned that EVE Valkyrie is not an Oculus exclusive at some point (and then backtracked when they realized that sounded stupid - covering up for letting slip that there's another VR contender in my opinion!
I think people are forgetting that it does exist, and it has been shown, Sony have publicly demoed VR headsets, HMDs with various head tracking implementations. If Sony actually pull the trigger on it or not, it's real, and not a secret.
As for giving people time to develop for it, to implement VR into a game which is a good fit, takes a couple of people a few weeks.
Ground up VR games will take years, but Sony isn't going to wait for them.
I hope not. There's no need to. They can build a VR consumer base in the meantime with games that can have VR implemented into them.
thunder_snail
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How can a game be exclusive to a display technology? Does it mean that in the future when people can get a different headset outside Oculus, they will be locked out of the game? If so, they are giving the finger to the PC community.
Core gameplay part of that game is using your head to lock-on enemies that are all around you. That means looking at sides even though you are traveling "forward". Putting monitor gamers in a MP match with Oculus gamers will cause incredible massacre, even more than keyb vs gamepad matches.
foamdino
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Obviously! I remember CCP's head of marketing making a statement about it not just being on Oculus rift, and I hazily recalled something else about it.
foamdino
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It would be a big deal if Sony announced on E3 that Squadron 42 will arrive on PS4 + PS4VR. That game will be much more ambitious and visually stunning than Eve Valkyrie [who is maybe receiving dev funding from OculusVR for exclusivity]. Although how can RSI make S42 run in 60/72/90fps for VR on PS4... nobody knows.
Spoken like an RSI/Star Citizen fanboy
Eve 4 lyfe!!
As it's already been pointed out that Oculus are publishing Valkyrie, then it's probably not coming to the sony vr system. It's very exciting times in this space-sim/shooter genre - I think Elite Dangerous would also be awesome with VR, but it doesn't look like they will support anything apart from Windows right now.
He's talking about a rival VR device, not a monitor.
Canis lupus
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Star Citizen
Eve Valkyrie
Elite: Dangerous
2015 is gonna be good! I bet one of them will be on Sony's VR, dogfighting is good to show off the tech. Any more space combat simulator games coming out?
Eve Valkyrie
Elite: Dangerous
2015 is gonna be good! I bet one of them will be on Sony's VR, dogfighting is good to show off the tech. Any more space combat simulator games coming out?
It sounds like it may be a timed exclusive and/or exclusive to Oculus within the PC realm.
http://venturebeat.com/2014/02/21/w...t-oculus-rift-needs-to-take-flight-interview/
PlayStation Eye Toy > PlayStation Move > PlayStation See.(VR)
or PlayStation 4K Eye???
I don't get that, it's exclusive by default because Rift is the only VR headset announced?
That seems obvious, but Oculus are co-publishing, what are they getting for their money if EVR just goes to everywhere as soon as VR headsets are out?
Not that I'm complaining, the idea of PC VR games being exclusive to specific headsets is beyond moronic, but Oculus doesn't seem like they're getting much out of the deal.
That seems obvious, but Oculus are co-publishing, what are they getting for their money if EVR just goes to everywhere as soon as VR headsets are out?
Not that I'm complaining, the idea of PC VR games being exclusive to specific headsets is beyond moronic, but Oculus doesn't seem like they're getting much out of the deal.
On a side note:
I am almost 100% sure next Oculus Devkit is releasing next week (or at least shortly after GDC). Why?
Because I think the "sold out" of DK1 is not totally accidental. It is not possible to order anymore and was said to be selling out for some weeks now.
Of course no one would still buy the old one if the new one is available and in addition people would be pissed if they just ordered the DK1 and the next day DK2 is coming. This way they build in a saftey time for themselves and for customers.
And as I highlighted before from the abstract of the GDC talk:
No point in talking about it if no one has it.
In regards to Sony VR this leaves a couple of possibilities:
1) It probably the last chance to steal some thunder one day ahead before the maybe better Oculus version comes
2) The timing is on purpose by Oculus and Sony to double up on the impact of VR. Sony for the console market (Oculus team somehow started saying they think consoles not right for them...) and Oculus Rift in the PC space. (unlinkley but almost wished for by me)
I am almost 100% sure next Oculus Devkit is releasing next week (or at least shortly after GDC). Why?
Because I think the "sold out" of DK1 is not totally accidental. It is not possible to order anymore and was said to be selling out for some weeks now.
http://www.oculusvr.com/blog/welcome-atman-binstock-chief-architect/
Of course no one would still buy the old one if the new one is available and in addition people would be pissed if they just ordered the DK1 and the next day DK2 is coming. This way they build in a saftey time for themselves and for customers.
And as I highlighted before from the abstract of the GDC talk:
http://schedule.gdconf.com/session-id/828260
No point in talking about it if no one has it.
In regards to Sony VR this leaves a couple of possibilities:
1) It probably the last chance to steal some thunder one day ahead before the maybe better Oculus version comes
2) The timing is on purpose by Oculus and Sony to double up on the impact of VR. Sony for the console market (Oculus team somehow started saying they think consoles not right for them...) and Oculus Rift in the PC space. (unlinkley but almost wished for by me)
3) Sony shows something unrelated to VR and everyone is dissapointed
unholyrevenger72
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Why not? We have no idea how long Sony has been working on it.
And Plz Sony allow KorFX integration.
Sidewinder
Member
or PlayStation 4K Eye???
Fake!!1 Look at the reflection.
or PlayStation 4K Eye???
My guess would be PlayStation Vista.
The Latin for experience is eventus, PlayStation Eventus sounds like the kind pretentious garbage Sony would use.
boredandlazy
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Playstation Smarterglass.
A small thing, but The Guardian claims to have heard the same as Edge from their own sources:
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ft-vr-headset-rival-expected-next-week-at-gdc
Their report has no further information though.
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ft-vr-headset-rival-expected-next-week-at-gdc
Their report has no further information though.
Software from a Sony games studio is an interesting thing to note.
I wonder if San Diego is going to have a mini-games collection for it.
EDIT: Zindagi Games' (the big Move people) website says they're making PS4 stuff, and they're looking for a UI designer who can make 3D UIs.
I wonder if San Diego is going to have a mini-games collection for it.
EDIT: Zindagi Games' (the big Move people) website says they're making PS4 stuff, and they're looking for a UI designer who can make 3D UIs.
FunkyLounge
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If sony won't reveal VR at GDC now, it would be like not revealing the PS4 on the ps event last February. Seriously, this is too much buzz.
Sidewinder
Member
The stars are aligned, it needs to happen!
reptilescorpio
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That would make sense.
VR sports could be very cool, but it might raise questions about 'stand-up-ability'. Or maybe they'd carefully choose sports that might be less likely to encourage standing up.
Like Chess?
Kiddin aside, I think you are right. Also the cable going from headset to PS4 would limit your "stand-up-freedom" even in sports that do not involve too much moving around like golf or bowling.
Edit: Unless SCEA R&D somehow managed to make it wireless (which is super unlikely)
AFAIK there is actually now very, very low latency, uncompressed wireless video streaming tech available for 1080p/60 or even 1080p/120, within the same room. Like 1ms or lower.
But I'm not sure about the cost of it. I think it's mostly used in the professional space at the moment. The HMZ-T3 does use the wireless HD standard which advertises <1ms latency in some modes, but I don't know if anyone has quantified input latency in games using it, vs wired (?) And I actually wonder about the latency of wireless tracking data anyway.
Wireless would be brilliant but not holding my breath.
Things like table tennis could be fine seated
Or swimming It'll be wired, wireless would be nice if they weren't targeting a seated experience, but they will.
I think if that studio are making a VR mini-game collection, I don't think it would be sports related.
I think the thing that would best demo VR would be some sort of theme park, or magical museum that transports you to places and times to walk around in.
I think if that studio are making a VR mini-game collection, I don't think it would be sports related.
I think the thing that would best demo VR would be some sort of theme park, or magical museum that transports you to places and times to walk around in.
Yes and yes. The Tuscany demo comes to mind, but that was too small. Something like the Infinity Blade demo with a couple of player/world interactions would be sweet.
mitchman
Gold Member
Pretty sure it's 1.4a. Remember that game company that couldn't do full HD 3D (Trine 2) due to restrictions with the PS4's HDMI output resolution in 3D? If it supported 1.4b, it would be able to do 3D in full HD (frame packing 3D format at 1080p60 per Eye). See http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-trine-2-on-ps4 :
Like Chess?
Kiddin aside, I think you are right. Also the cable going from headset to PS4 would limit your "stand-up-freedom" even in sports that do not involve too much moving around like golf or bowling.
Edit: Unless SCEA R&D somehow managed to make it wireless (which is super unlikely)
Boy if only there was a chip in the PS4 designed to send low latency video over small distances
I believe it's just a software side issue, Trine 2 devs said they could patch when Sony updates for support. A bit like it doesn't play 3D BRDs I guess.