Not necessarily, but Nintendo hasn't traditionally gone out of their way to lend a helping hand to third parties when it comes to documentation and whatnot. That is more important in the long run than the architecture.
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Emily Rogers: NX Not Using x86 Architecture - Won't Blow Away Current Gen Consoles
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Not necessarily, but Nintendo hasn't traditionally gone out of their way to lend a helping hand to third parties when it comes to documentation and whatnot. That is more important in the long run than the architecture.
Pokemaniac
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This thread should probably be about the Tegra rumor, too. It'd be good if that could be added to the OP.
OverturePT
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Great way to try and bring third party on board...
Aztechnology
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Oh that's uhhh. Disappointing, that's kind of moving away from the market direction.
That's what I'm falling back on as well at this point.
That's what I'm falling back on as well at this point.
abstract alien
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Not sure why anyone would have thought Nintendo was going to get in an arms race with Sony and Microsoft. May as well put a "shocking rumor" tag on this.
Dark Cloud
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When was Neo considered a competitor? I must've missed that rumor.
NOLA_Gaffer
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Okay, I gotta get my popcorn for this one. This is gunna be gud.
All I want is a cheap point of entry on playing Nintendo games. I am not going to pay a premium price to play only Nintendo games, and if that means being weaker than the XBO in 2017, then so be it. $300 is the ceiling on what I would pay for a Nintendo machine these days, and even then it has to have a stellar library/future library, and not force another crappy gimmick down my throat.
We've been over this a billion time. Provided that the CPU is at least as strong, it doesn't change anything.
NX is coming out 7 years later with a weird architecture?
Lolz
Prevolition
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So it'll be affordable, modern, and easy to port to in theory. It's the best of all worlds. Making a cutting edge console in sheer power and thereby directly competing with no ace in hole (aka the "gimmick") would be suicide for Nintendo.
Already Torn
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Even if the hardware is terrible, we will enjoy whatever new innovations Nintendo has in store. I can't wait to experience the Super Mario series and the Legend of Zelda in new and exciting ways!
Sure it won't be able to run VR unlike the PSNeo which comes out months before, but that's not consumers are interested in. Gameplay first.
Sure it won't be able to run VR unlike the PSNeo which comes out months before, but that's not consumers are interested in. Gameplay first.
Great, another Nintendo console that has "different" architecture. Have they not learned? another Nintendo console that's only made for first party games. Sounds like a solid idea. Can't wait for the press announcement with all those 3rd party players that promise then refuse to support it. Maybe we will get a nx version of fallout 4?
Napalm_Frank
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Y not? Makes sense to me if they don't possibly match the Xbox One it's just the handheld hardware in a console form.
Theanine3D
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Great news.
It's probably ARM. So UE4 could still potentially run on it.
It's probably ARM. So UE4 could still potentially run on it.
Still i thought all the rumors recently had a bunch of soruces pointing to the console being easy to dev for. What happened to that? Ah well whatever I' want to see the handheld.
wonderful103
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Quoting myself from the previous page:
wonderful103 said:
Quoting myself from another thread:
wonderful103 said:
But people will be people and react without actually reading.
ARM. it has none of the baggage of x86, it's more modern and keeps up with x86 with no issues.
Lilalaunebaer
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Basically, on paper between PS4 and Xbone, though it doesn´t really mean much since different architecture and more modern chips.
Can´t wait to read all the doomed posts. (already some in here.)
Can´t wait to read all the doomed posts. (already some in here.)
Cid Highwind
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Lol
And you are?
dancrane212
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Looked through the previous thread and found the Semiaccurate info. I'll add it to the OP.
Pretty much.
wonderful103
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Right?
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Jotamide
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I've expected this from the start, now I won't be disappointed.
Nintendo can't go 3rd party soon enough.
It can still be easy to develop for and for it to not be x86-based.
Already Torn
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But they won't do that if there isn't money to be made, which there won't be if nobody buys it.
chaosblade
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There was no rumor, just people getting themselves excited over something that was never feasible to begin with.
Because by next year no one will be making PS4/XB1 games?
Why should we take your word for these things is what I'm asking.
Well that's good news. I'm sure that will get buried in this thread but nice to know. What else was rumored about the Handheld?
Already Torn
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Once people understand the value of the GamePad, hardware specs won't matter.
wonderful103
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And that has next to NOTHING to do with the hardware. That's the point.
QaaQer said:
Go look at ARM engine support on your own and form your own conclusions then.
Schnozberry
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Yeah, I guess this will have to do.
Thraktor made a post in response to mine that stated that Nintendo would be able to engage Nvidia to customize chips, which is most likely true, but I think it would be Nintendo doing most of the customizing under advisement from Nvidia. Here's an article from 2013 that explains Nvidia's approach to licensing:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7083/nvidia-to-license-kepler-and-future-gpu-ip-to-3rd-parties
I don't think Nvidia would be offering Nintendo steep discounts in order to get them to use up their wafer commitments at 20nm, however. Nvidia was talking about 20nm being garbage as far back as 2012, and I don't think they would have overcommitted knowing full well that 20nm offered little advantage over 28nm when it came to improvements in power efficiency and thermal characteristics.
If they gave Nintendo the type of discount that was rumored (taking a loss), it's likely because they know NX is a major reorientation at Nintendo around a unified architecture and that Nintendo would be committing to multiple designs into the future where they could make up short term losses.
James Scott
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Yeah, thought this would get posted. Without price or software line up of course ~Xbox One specs would look bad.
Not really a Wii U situation as long as it's cheap.
The handheld will use TEGRA according to the other (now locked) thread. Not sure if someone will make a thread (or if I should).
Not really a Wii U situation as long as it's cheap.
The handheld will use TEGRA according to the other (now locked) thread. Not sure if someone will make a thread (or if I should).
bobbychalkers
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If that's what they're going for then I could be down with it.
It being x86 or ARM has little to no bearing on (a) how powerful the console is likely to be or (b) the ease with which third parties can port titles to the NX. ARM cores like the A72 outperform the x86 Jaguar cores used in the PS4 and XBO by pretty much every measure, and unless a studio has gone insane and started writing all their code in assembly then porting to an ARM-based console shouldn't be an issue.
Regarding the GPU performance (closer to XBO than PS4) this is around what I would have been expecting.
Regarding the GPU performance (closer to XBO than PS4) this is around what I would have been expecting.
Already Torn
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You think people are going to be lining up to buy a console that's less powerful than the PS4 a few months after the release of the PS4 Neo?
"Dude, you getting the NX?"
"I don't think so dude. I heard it was worse than the PS4 and it uses cartridges. Sounds lame."
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