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[Eurogamer\DF] Orbis Unmasked: what to expect from the next-gen PlayStation.
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phosphor112
Banned
We don't exactly know. I personally think it'll be something that resembles the Spurs engine. Sony patented something like that in 2010. You can connect it to 86x architecture and still have the advantage of the SPE's from the Cell. They can function as DSP's, additional stream processors, video encoders and decoders... etc.
yurinka
Member
I thought it was 2 years later than Xbox 360 in EU sorry (I'm European):
360 - December 2nd 2005
PS3 - March 23th 2007
Just checked it in Wikipedia and was almost 1 year and 4 months in EU.
Almost 1 year in both US and Japan.
Hey guys, completely unrelated, but I don't want to start a new topic.
Is there something wrong with the forum today?
Every time I enter www.neogaf.com or use my recent sites list, it comes up with a page load error.
I've had to search for it every time I've gotten in.
Is there something wrong with the forum today?
Every time I enter www.neogaf.com or use my recent sites list, it comes up with a page load error.
I've had to search for it every time I've gotten in.
Guess at the former. Would allow cuda/GPGPU coding for physx type stuff that might otherwise suck up GPU resource. CPU wouldn't be great at that as they don't seem a huge jump over CELL.
Speevy, your link was fine for me.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
You mean 15 months... Dec 2005 - Mar 2007.
The Xbox 360 was released on December 2, 2005 while the PS3 was released March 23, 2007. That's 1 year, 3 months and 21 days later, not almost two years.
OT: Weirdly something similar happened to me a few months back. I could access both www.neogaf.com and neogaf.com (the latter I found out about later) but I couldn't access my account. I was always signed out. Went on mozilla where I was finally able to log in and someone told me to remove the www. It worked for me then.
There was a scheduled maintenance yesterday. Perhaps something was done then that's affecting the two of you now.
yurinka
Member
Yep I failed badly, sorry. At first I thought it was 2 years and almost 4 months xDD
I edited the post.
oversitting
Banned
Anything with a datapath and a controller can be called a compute module. No idea what it would be in this case.
Thanks.
From which piece of article or rumour did you deduce the presence of cell in PS4?
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Arethere any reliable rumors on the speed of the blu-ray drive in Orbis? I think I remember one that said 16x but that seems too high. If the drive is faster than the 6x one in Durango the improvement in streaming ability could offset the inability to store as much unique data in RAM. I am expecting BDXL support though.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
They helped make it so I imagine so.
If the rumor that Orbis was designed outside of Japan turns out to be true and it's as developer friendly as it sounds they may have done most of the work.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Thats what I am thinking.
Saberus
Member
The last rumour I think they said 8 but it would be throttled back to 6x and it would support the new 100 gig discs.
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NinjaFridge
Unconfirmed Member
Question is, who is in charge of the firmware?
Cool, that sounds more reasonable.
Probably the same team that did the Vita's.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
ICE is a team located in the same building as Naughty Dog. They work exclusively on creating and tweaking Sony-exclusive game engines.
iamvin22
Industry Verified
100 percent spot on.
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NinjaFridge
Unconfirmed Member
I don't have a Vita so I don't know if this is a good thing or not.
Sony's tech team. They helped dev's get the most out of PS3.
ICE is the main tech team that did a ton of dedicated work on the PS3 and came up with a lot of the tricks and techniques that first parties shared. They created the PS3 MLAA implementation and a lot of other things. They're a massive part of why PS3 exclusives looked so good this gen and how the bar was able to be continually raised. They are Sony's special sauce.
I don't have one either but I've heard great things about the OS and UI.
gonna take you forever to load up 3.5 GB of RAM from BD drive, so i wouldnt worry about it.... Looking online, most drives these days are 12x. Thats 54 MBs.
Problem with BD drives is not the data rate but seek times, they are pretty slow, especially if disk is full. And that was the problem since PS3 had only 460 MB of RAM available total.
Read the last part in Arnold's voice.
OK, cool. Thanks for clearing that up.
iamvin22
Industry Verified
ICE team is mostly comprised of high level naughty dog staff but includes staff from insom, SSM, GG and a few others.
i would be shocked if kojima prod is not in ICE team as he visits the ND office nearly every time he is in southern cali.
iamvin22
Industry Verified
Is ICE team also responsible for disseminating newer and better tools for the console's development kits among the third parties?
Yep.
babyghost853
Member
Maybe this will shed a little light as to why devs are being quiet.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1685905&postcount=16334
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1685908&postcount=16335
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1685971&postcount=16341
There was more discussion about it but I'm too lazy to dig it up.
That's SCEJ, but then they also built the Vita OS - if that changes for PS4, so also might who handles firmware.
Thank you.
Lest we forget, that's 256MB of LPDDR3 (iirc). Imagine the briskness of operations with GDDR5.
shinra-bansho
Member
Hmm, then why are we so quick to assume the neXBOX tools will be much easier/faster for developers?
iceatcs
Junior Member
Because of 360 and PS3.
I know it isn't good one but it seem they are using this reason.
Also Ps2 was a nightmare to develop for also thanks to lack if tools/documentation
Also Microsoft are a Software company and they own DirectX, which allows for some ease of development you can't have on other formats.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
i think most people assume software company = better at making tools for games. and yes, directX rules the roost with PC games currently but i hear a lot of complaining from developers as to the bloatiness of the directX API. that's where the phrase "coding to the metal" comes from, as you don't have much between your code and the hardware running it. as opposed to your code running through a layer or two before the hardware. that's about as generically as i can phrase it.