I reckon most people would have thought that the Durango would have been much more than 3x more powerful than the Wii U.
Where do those figures come from, out of curiosity?
I reckon most people would have thought that the Durango would have been much more than 3x more powerful than the Wii U.
Shouldn't we be more interested in what games/non game stuff are coming rather than what edram or gigahurtz or googleplexes are in the thing? No, this is Neogaf.
Fat nerds only happy when shit is CAPABLE of running things fast/amazing graphics rather than if there is a possibility it ever will
Just another hint:
By reading the PS4 specs it looks the PS4 is MUCH more powerful than the 720.
But here's the catch, lherre a developer under NDA says both consoles will be like PS3 & 360 of last gen.
So we are seriously still missing a huge chunk of Durango info. Which is strange since more info about Durango would be known after CES...
Can anyone explain how those Jaguar cores compare to the Cell in performance?
Just another hint:
By reading the PS4 specs it looks the PS4 is MUCH more powerful than the 720.
But here's the catch, lherre a developer under NDA says both consoles will be like PS3 & 360 of last gen.
So we are seriously still missing a huge chunk of Durango info. Which is strange since more info about Durango would be known after CES...
Its a pretty tremendous upgrade.
Here comes a new challenger...?It's nice to finally have an article from a known website on all of these rumours.
I talked about most of this regarding Durango over the past year here - 8 cores at 1.6ghz, 8GB of slow ram, rough estimation of GPU, Win8 utilisation etc. The 3GB and 2 core dedicated to the OS is real. I guess you will just have to wait and see what they have in store.
Here's a couple things I have talked about before that weren't talked about in the article. Microsoft are encouraging 1080p at 30fps or 720p at 60fps to developers. I am not sure if they are trying to enforce this or not.
Approximately 1GB of RAM can be accessed per frame. Dunno if it was at 30fps or 60fps.
Not sure if this is actually new but I was informed that the cores in the Durango processor have their own FPUs rather than the 2 modules share one FPU that the older AMD processors were using. I haven't looked into whether this is something that is new with Jaguar processors though, so this might be nothing special.
I don't think I am going to talk about anything that isn't already out there before Microsoft and Sony officially reveal their consoles. I am looking forward to it.
The 3GB and 2 core dedicated to the OS is real. I guess you will just have to wait and see what they have in store.
Here comes a new challenger...?
I.e. is this insider info?
It's nice to finally have an article from a known website on all of these rumours.
I talked about most of this regarding Durango over the past year here - 8 cores at 1.6ghz, 8GB of slow ram, rough estimation of GPU, Win8 utilisation etc. The 3GB and 2 core dedicated to the OS is real. I guess you will just have to wait and see what they have in store.
Here's a couple things I have talked about before that weren't talked about in the article. Microsoft are encouraging 1080p at 30fps or 720p at 60fps to developers. I am not sure if they are trying to enforce this or not.
Approximately 1GB of RAM can be accessed per frame. Dunno if it was at 30fps or 60fps.
Not sure if this is actually new but I was informed that the cores in the Durango processor have their own FPUs rather than the 2 modules share one FPU that the older AMD processors were using. I haven't looked into whether this is something that is new with Jaguar processors though, so this might be nothing special.
I don't think I am going to talk about anything that isn't already out there before Microsoft and Sony officially reveal their consoles. I am looking forward to it.
I doubt it.
RIP Durango.
Btw, is the CPU (which looks to be shared between Durango and Orbis) OoE/OoO?
Can anyone explain how those Jaguar cores compare to the Cell in performance?
I reckon most people would have thought that the Durango would have been much more than 3x more powerful than the Wii U.
It's nice to finally have an article from a known website on all of these rumours.
I talked about most of this regarding Durango over the past year here - 8 cores at 1.6ghz, 8GB of slow ram, rough estimation of GPU, Win8 utilisation etc. The 3GB and 2 core dedicated to the OS is real. I guess you will just have to wait and see what they have in store.
Here's a couple things I have talked about before that weren't talked about in the article. Microsoft are encouraging 1080p at 30fps or 720p at 60fps to developers. I am not sure if they are trying to enforce this or not.
Approximately 1GB of RAM can be accessed per frame. Dunno if it was at 30fps or 60fps.
Not sure if this is actually new but I was informed that the cores in the Durango processor have their own FPUs rather than the 2 modules share one FPU that the older AMD processors were using. I haven't looked into whether this is something that is new with Jaguar processors though, so this might be nothing special.
Regarding the RAM difference between the two consoles I don't think there will be too much difference between them in actual games other than maybe stuff like alpha blending operations but this is just speculation on my part.
I don't think I am going to talk about anything that isn't already out there before Microsoft and Sony officially reveal their consoles. I am looking forward to it.
yea, it is. this isn't a wii situation anymore though, and it's brought itself closer to a PS2/Xbox situation which is far from scary.
Lower raw compute performance. Not a total slouch but the GPU is the big floating point performer.
But probably should be better for branchy code and be easier going on less optimised code.
Just another hint:
By reading the PS4 specs it looks the PS4 is MUCH more powerful than the 720.
But here's the catch, lherre a developer under NDA says both consoles will be like PS3 & 360 of last gen.
So we are seriously still missing a huge chunk of Durango info. Which is strange since more info about Durango would be known after CES...
Either the missing special sauce of Durango is revolutionary or...........I don't know. If we assume everything else balances out the only real difference so far is the 1.2TF vs 1.8TF.
That is the approx on paper difference between a HD7770 and HD7850.
The special sauce(s) we don't know about yet in Durango must be something else.....
Wii U GPU is roughly in the 300-400 GFLOP range. Durango is roughly 1200 GFLOPs.Say what? Where's this coming from???
Yeah, it's hard to believe. Must be ingenious if real.
Just another hint:
By reading the PS4 specs it looks the PS4 is MUCH more powerful than the 720.
But here's the catch, lherre a developer under NDA says both consoles will be like PS3 & 360 of last gen.
So we are seriously still missing a huge chunk of Durango info. Which is strange since more info about Durango would be known after CES...
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Not sure if this is actually new but I was informed that the cores in the Durango processor have their own FPUs rather than the 2 modules share one FPU that the older AMD processors were using.
Could that "compute" secret sauce thing in the article be helping with this?
The 3GB for the OS stuff is what really interests me in Durango. Could be something cool.
1GB per 60fps game. DDR3 can be pushed to work at ~60GB/s transfer rate, PS4 will have ~3x faster memory.
If Andy is saying the 3gigs for the OS is real. I am going to go with him versus my source who I haven't talked to in a month.
He mentions the FPU for each core as one difference so I will have to go try to break down the improvement that would offer.
If this is the "same" Andy.
Where do those figures come from, out of curiosity?
The special sauce(s) we don't know about yet in Durango must be something else.....
...uh huh.Proelite is also saying that there is less than 3GB dedicated to the OS.
Can someone explain what this means in practical terms? Is Durango only expected to effectively utilize 1GB of memory for VRAM? Or am I interpreting that incorrectly?
Plus if the article is correct and the Orbis has some sauce of it's own, Microsoft must have the sauciest of sauces if it's to overcome .6 tflops coated in Sony sauce.
Can someone explain to me what I'm reading and why it's so powerful? I'm just curious, because I remember when the Wii U was hacked and there was an absolute shit storm over it's 1.2 Ghz clock speed, and suddenly the new systems from Sony and Microsoft are 1.6 and are super better? All I'm seeing is more RAM, which will of course smoke the Wii U's, but I'm not sure how everything else is going to result in performance that's so much better.
I'm just looking to be better educated.
yea, it is. this isn't a wii situation anymore though, and it's brought itself closer to a PS2/Xbox situation which is far from scary.
...uh huh.
I am going with Andy. Though it goes against what my source said. If this is the same person(Andy) as before. I am going to assume the 2-3 rumors trump month old data.
Plus if the article is correct and the Orbis has some sauce of it's own, Microsoft must have the sauciest of sauces if it's to overcome .6 tflops coated in Sony sauce.
Can someone explain to me what I'm reading and why it's so powerful? I'm just curious, because I remember when the Wii U was hacked and there was an absolute shit storm over it's 1.2 Ghz clock speed, and suddenly the new systems from Sony and Microsoft are 1.6 and are super better? All I'm seeing is more RAM, which will of course smoke the Wii U's, but I'm not sure how everything else is going to result in performance that's so much better.
I'm just looking to be better educated.
It's nowhere near a PS2/Xbox situation.
These specs clearly trounce the Wii U, the only difference this time is that the Wii U can output HD so it does not look like a dog on HDTV's.
Aegies is also saying that the 3GB figure is incorrect now and that the # of CPU cores is greater than 8.
Plus if the article is correct and the Orbis has some sauce of it's own, Microsoft must have the sauciest of sauces if it's to overcome .6 tflops coated in Sony sauce.
Why so secretive Microsoft?
Aegies is also saying that the 3GB figure is incorrect now and that the # of CPU cores is greater than 8.
It's nowhere near a PS2/Xbox situation.
These specs clearly trounce the Wii U, the only difference this time is that the Wii U can output HD so it does not look like a dog on HDTV's.
Anyway, specs look good. ..... with a solid OS, good features and decent launch games and price ..... I'm in.
Looking forward to some official info on both PS4 and Durango.
More cores.
More efficiencies
Better ram
Better GPU's.