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Exactly six years ago*, GameSpot reviewed The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess.
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I just finished Twilight Princess last night for the first time. I don't know what score I'd give it, but I will say I almost didn't finish the game. I hated the tear collecting portion, and pretty much any time I was forced to be a wolf.
There was a thread here not to long ago about greatest dungeons in the Zelda series, and if I hadn't seen some of the TP dungeons in that thread I wouldn't have completed it.
That being said, I'm really glad I did because I enjoyed the second half of the game. Roughly corresponding with when I got the ability to shape shift at will.
There was a thread here not to long ago about greatest dungeons in the Zelda series, and if I hadn't seen some of the TP dungeons in that thread I wouldn't have completed it.
That being said, I'm really glad I did because I enjoyed the second half of the game. Roughly corresponding with when I got the ability to shape shift at will.
That duel-hookshot dungeon was a thing of Zelda gaming bliss. And that boss!
even as someone who is fond if this game and has learned to like it, I gotta admit that I (I think most of us) go play TP mainly for the dungeons.
the locales are nice, I remember lake Hylia being nice and the desert too but they are rather empty and not very interesting to travel through.
in that sense I think I like SS a bit more.
Rocket Scientist
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Sometimes we need a reminder of why we let certain things go in our lives.
WhiskeyKnight
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Wow. I mean, NeoGaf is generally pretty inside baseball, but an anniversary thread for a...review? This is what we're doing now?
Was a more than valid score. Instead of being enraged back then it actually made me a bit more skeptical. After finishing it on Wii back then I wouldn't have given it any higher of a score.
The waggle really did get to me. It was so bad for sword swings. Being forced to rapidly shake my wrist just to wander through bushes looking for money was atrocious. After you got lazy enough and broke it down to the core functionality (briefly waggling up and down or left and right) it became tired. I wanted nothing more than to just hit a B-button instead. The only good part about the Wii version was the widescreen support.
I more recently played through the Gamecube version and was far more pleased with it. Left-handed Link, and a single button for sword attacks. I really wondered why I was so displeased with it in the past, and in retrospect it must have been those tacked on waggle controls.
The waggle really did get to me. It was so bad for sword swings. Being forced to rapidly shake my wrist just to wander through bushes looking for money was atrocious. After you got lazy enough and broke it down to the core functionality (briefly waggling up and down or left and right) it became tired. I wanted nothing more than to just hit a B-button instead. The only good part about the Wii version was the widescreen support.
I more recently played through the Gamecube version and was far more pleased with it. Left-handed Link, and a single button for sword attacks. I really wondered why I was so displeased with it in the past, and in retrospect it must have been those tacked on waggle controls.
What's wrong with that? Last night I had my 5th year anniversary for taking the longest piss on my record.
I didn't mind the Wolf segments of Twilight Princess, but I can see why someone would. I still really like it, though. Stuff like Snowpeak Manor or Hyrule Castle made it so much fun.
And I love the character designs. Even though Wind Waker is my favorite Zelda, Twilight Princess' artwork and its character designs are my favorite in the series.
And I love the character designs. Even though Wind Waker is my favorite Zelda, Twilight Princess' artwork and its character designs are my favorite in the series.
It's a shame that originally when the game was in development for wii and Miyamoto was asked if the wiimote would be used for sword swings he was all "lolno", but then changed his mind.
It did blow my mind at the time since it was so novel, but it does make replaying it really annoying these days. The IR aiming is still fantastic though, unlike SS.
I love that people are still flipping their shit over this.
Also, I couldn't bring myself to finish that game. I was so f*cking sick of it towards the end. I hated playing as a wolf and that game's version of Hyrule was probably the most boring overworld I've witnessed in any game.
Also, I couldn't bring myself to finish that game. I was so f*cking sick of it towards the end. I hated playing as a wolf and that game's version of Hyrule was probably the most boring overworld I've witnessed in any game.
creid
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It was quite the shitstorm at the time. I enjoyed the trip down memory lane.
joeygreco1985
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I remember when this review hit at the the time. I frequented NGG and LUE over at GameFAQs pretty regularly, and man it was a total shitstorm. I had fun poking at the "drones" at the time for getting so riled up though
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Deleted member 102362
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It was a huge deal when it hit, and it's still relevant to modern video game journalism.
Eh, more relevant to gaming community's (im)maturity.
Your post isn't based on reality. To say the 'Call of Duty/Gears of War/Dude-Bro argument' has gotten old would be putting it lightly. I found this site called metacritic you might not have heard of. You should check it out.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/gears-of-war-3
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/call-of-duty-black-ops-ii
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/the-legend-of-zelda-twilight-princess
T.M. MacReady
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when did everyone start using the expression "inside baseball" in reference to games? Not a fan.
And I think the thread has more to do with the launch of the Wii U than anything else. TP was the Wii's flagship Day One title. The backlash was (as we can all see) ridiculous and laughable
Gillian Seed
Banned
One had horrible waggle controls.
chickdigger802
Banned
Don't call of duty fans always hate the new one?
If I had a 9.0 game and a 8.8 game right next to eachother, and played them both unknowing of their respective scores, I sure as hell wouldn't notice a difference in quality. So I do not understand what all the fuzz was about. 8.8 is hardly worth crying over. 0.2 from 9... It can be taken the other way around too. Why didn't Jeff just give the game 9 to avoid upsetting the fanbase? I mean, it's so trivial.
NotoriousLynx
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Zelda games suck anyway. 8.8 for TP is like giving Superman 64 a 10/10. TP sucked hard. Just another generic Zelda game with the same basic formula and a boring implementation of motion controls. It didn't even have its own personality, totally stole from Majora's Mask, which any true Zelda fan should know is the best Zelda, not like the overrated OoT. MM had Skull Kid, the most well-written antagonist ever, and the three day mechanic was so pressuring and cool and deep. Zelda games are all bland and repetitive nowadays and need to move on. What I think needs to happen is they add a great new multiplayer mode with an RPG progress system where you unlock different perks and guns for your loadouts. And when you reach max level, you should be able to prestige. I also think Zelda needs some difficulty levels, like Veteran, and maybe a survival mode where swarms of ReDead come from all over.
Well then I'm sorry but this forum is for Hardcore Gamers Only
RealDeadOne
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I was like 15 when this happened and frequented GameFAQs, even back then I couldn't figure out what all the noise was about since 8.8 was still a pretty high score. But I guess I just wasn't totally familiar with the industry, forum-goers and especially Zelda fans.
I wasn't aware just how bananas this got though, never saw all those photoshops and threats and total meltdowns. I can really see now why Jeff pays so little attention when the internet is freaking out about something nowadays.
I wasn't aware just how bananas this got though, never saw all those photoshops and threats and total meltdowns. I can really see now why Jeff pays so little attention when the internet is freaking out about something nowadays.
Dark Octave
Banned
I put 7 hours into this game and quit almost exactly 5 years ago. I decided to pick it back up and I just finished the game last night after putting 55 hours into it and 8.8 for the Game Cube version is a fair score, imo.
I hated the dark world portions. I hated being stuck as a dog. I hated the confusing drawn out mess that was the inbetween dungeon game. The music was not memorable at all.
But once you are able to switch between the dog and human forms at will, the game became a lot more fun for me. The graphics are great, even to someone who has been used to PS360 HD graphics for the last 7 years now.
Controls were good for the most part. Story was simple and easy to follow. Characters were strange but I didn't hate any of them. The world was small but very, very dense and packed with stuff.
The game was good towards the end, I had a good time playing it.
I hated the dark world portions. I hated being stuck as a dog. I hated the confusing drawn out mess that was the inbetween dungeon game. The music was not memorable at all.
But once you are able to switch between the dog and human forms at will, the game became a lot more fun for me. The graphics are great, even to someone who has been used to PS360 HD graphics for the last 7 years now.
Controls were good for the most part. Story was simple and easy to follow. Characters were strange but I didn't hate any of them. The world was small but very, very dense and packed with stuff.
The game was good towards the end, I had a good time playing it.
Solid warrior
Banned
:lol
"gamespot is a hackjob..."
serious fans am serious.
The outrage should have been over that it received such a high score. The fact that it was pretty much a rehash of OoT and totally lacked the originality of the previous Zelda game (Wind Waker) objectively should have put it's max score no higher than 8.0. It's a conceptionally lazy game.
Then there's the long tedious tutorial, no challenge whatsoever, very little exploration involved in the overworld, boring parts where you're a wolf and have to collect bugs, unmemorable music, and the added emphasis on cutscenes. It just wasn't that great.
Then there's the long tedious tutorial, no challenge whatsoever, very little exploration involved in the overworld, boring parts where you're a wolf and have to collect bugs, unmemorable music, and the added emphasis on cutscenes. It just wasn't that great.
Come on man, what the fuck does that even mean? How is it a rehash of OoT? Because it has dungeons and weapons? Wut?
Neff
Member
The Legend of Zelda - 8/10
Adventure of Link - 9/10
Link to the Past - ∞/10
Link's Awakening - 10/10
Ocarina of Time - 9/10
Majora's Mask - hardly played it, don't really like it
Oracle of Ages/Seasons - 7/10
Wind Waker - 7/10
Minish Cap - 8/10
Twilight Princess - 9/10
Phantom Hourglass - never played it
Spirit Tracks - 6/10
Skyward Sword - 8/10
For what it's worth, I thought Gerstmann's review was fair at the time and still do.
Adventure of Link - 9/10
Link to the Past - ∞/10
Link's Awakening - 10/10
Ocarina of Time - 9/10
Majora's Mask - hardly played it, don't really like it
Oracle of Ages/Seasons - 7/10
Wind Waker - 7/10
Minish Cap - 8/10
Twilight Princess - 9/10
Phantom Hourglass - never played it
Spirit Tracks - 6/10
Skyward Sword - 8/10
For what it's worth, I thought Gerstmann's review was fair at the time and still do.
Lufiaddict
Member
That's a good point. Scores are always relative. It would be interesting to see which games from the same era received better scores (from Gamespot, and from Jeff Gerstmann in particular) than TP and how these games are perceived in retrospect.
I died to that boss, because i am stupid. After I got the Zora's clothes i wore them constantly. I didn't get the Magic Armor until after the Palace of Twilight. That was when I noticed the description on the item selection screen that said the Zora clothes made you weak to ice and fire. I wore them through the entire ice dungeon and got one shot by the boss of the Sky City the first time I fought him.
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Deleted member 13876
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Some of those posts wow.
MOTHERFLIPPIN DECIMAL RAGE
MOTHERFLIPPIN DECIMAL RAGE
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
This was around the time I realized that gaf is better at reviewing games for me as a collective bunch. I don't care about the score or Jeff but the entire system has ignored core bias issues. When Halo 1 can be severely flawed (level design) and get a 10, generate a ton of excitement from reviewers who are more than willing to overlook problems, there is a bias. Then they completely overlook the inherent flaws of having to rely on publisher's ads for income.
If I wanted bias and good commentary, I have Gaf. Thank you gaf for games like Batman: Arkham series, advance wars, etc. All games I want following that you recommended.
If I wanted bias and good commentary, I have Gaf. Thank you gaf for games like Batman: Arkham series, advance wars, etc. All games I want following that you recommended.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
I'm not sure how to respond to ur Oracle reviews. Can I ask your boss to fire you?
Interficium
Banned
MrCunningham
Member
Haha, this is true. It's amazing how mush of a sh*tstorm that .2 deduction from being a 9 caused. I've played through Twighlight Princess on the Wii, 8.8 seems like a pretty fair score to me. I think Gertsmann was right on the money here, technically it is a sound game with a typical Nintendo quality production. But it didn't really do anything out of the extraordinary for a Zelda title that would warrant giving it a perfect 10 or a high 9.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
I'm so glad I could never get into this series after it went 3D. Watching review drama unfold over games I haven't even been thinking about makes for a mildly amusing way to wake up in the morning over coffee.
Neff
Member
TBH, I'd probably deserve it, I haven't played them since they were released, and I probably need a re-appraisal.
The Majora part is a much bigger travesty.
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