they can for sure. got a few refunds for games i didnt like and they dissapeared from my dl list. when launched it said "you own this game?" or something
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Fallout 4 Free on Xbox Live Store
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they can for sure. got a few refunds for games i didnt like and they dissapeared from my dl list. when launched it said "you own this game?" or something
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Didn't know about that. I just remember the Fallout season pass as the latest one.
MS can revoke licenses near instantly on XB1, if it hasn't started happening today, I doubt it ever will to be honest.
MS usually just soaks up the losses when this type of thing happens. Chances are high they'll just let you keep it, like they always have. The only example people post about revoking is when it happened on PS but they're two different companies with two different ways of treating price errors in the past.
MS usually just soaks up the losses when this type of thing happens. Chances are high they'll just let you keep it, like they always have. The only example people post about revoking is when it happened on PS but they're two different companies with two different ways of treating price errors in the past.
infinit777
Member
Still shows me as having it on xbox.com, so hopefully im good since it didn't finish downloading before bed.
if it gets taken away though it won't be a big deal. I have it on pc, though i don't really play pc games
if it gets taken away though it won't be a big deal. I have it on pc, though i don't really play pc games
Thewonandonly
Junior Member
I don't think Microsoft will revoke the license. They got the ball in their court right now. With Sony not showing ps4k if Scorpio is shown in a smart awsome way, then shit Microsoft can have a one two punch of good press. They need this haha
shanafan
Member
Eventually? Purely speculation at this point, but I don't think they are.
I think the DLC being actually available now (as opposed to when it happened on PSN with the season pass) adds additional complication.
Like I said before, you just know there's a good chunk who owned the base game only grabbed the season pass, got all the DLC, and only relies on the rotating autosaves.
DLC gets revoked, that's dozens / hundreds of hours down the drain and a large group of very vocal upset people.
MS revoked the Halo 4 maps that accidentally went free for a while and made up a stupid '14 day buy and play' thing to try and justify it
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503770
I think that's the only time they've revoked stuff.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503770
I think that's the only time they've revoked stuff.
DarkLordMalik
Member
If I try starting Fallout 4, I automatically quit to main menu after the Now Loading screen?
Kadin
Member
That sounds like what happened when RDR (BC) suddenly became unplayable. Although I believe I did get an error as well.
Try hard reset it should still work
Green Yoshi
Member
The Season Pass was free for PS4 a couple of months ago. But it was revoked.
Kadin
Member
I was also reading on reddit that apparently Strider was offered for free for a short time on X1 and a day or two after it was revoked. I can't confirm this of course, but I'm sure others here can.
edit: I guess it was like the earlier BC debacle where you had to find a friend who had it and you could then download it for free for a limited time.
MicroCuts7
Member
NintendoRev
Member
I find it kind of hilarious that various news sites are reporting that this will be revoked but their only source is Neowin, whos going off the word of an Xbox customer support rep.
blame space
Banned
I can still play mine
Also note, there are multiple Xbox customer support reps cited saying that they would absolutely not do this.
Lee Chaolan
Member
Same
NintendoRev
Member
Yep. Everyone's focusing on the one report of "Oh yeah it'l be removed from accounts" vs the other "nah you get to keep it"
blame space
Banned
the thing is, ever since I installed some mods to check it out, even when I have no mods active, random items will glow highlighted.. I deactivated and deleted all the mods, but still I have blue lockers and ammo boxes all over the place.
anyone else have any experience with this?
anyone else have any experience with this?
HawksWinStanley
Member
I always miss out on this stuff.
InflictedOwned
Neo Member
Pretty sure you have a crafting item marked for search. It highlights containers that have the item you are looking for.
The Elite
BOSS
Is there a report saying we can keep it?
blame space
Banned
oh cool I had no idea.. it wasn't always like that, right?
Kadin
Member
Yeah it's always been like that. It's just a feature that I don't think many people knew about.
Hmm, I don't know about that. I'm still able to launch and play Amplitude, or maybe they just like me?
Multiple from earlier in the thread, all from Xbox Customer Support reps exactly laid out like the "proof" in that article.
There are some chat logs from support yesterday along the lines of "It's a promotion".
FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
My digital deluxe version is still available. For once I was actually there when something like this happened, please let me keep it!!!
Forsaken82
Member
Why is this hilarious?
Shouldn't a Customer Support representative KNOW about how the company wants to deal with the situation so THEY are prepared when they have to deal with the customer?
That's sort of their job....
Squall5042
Member
Started playing today but I got an error that there isn't sufficient space to save? I have no save files whatsoever and over half my hard drive is free space
shanafan
Member
Well, I think the timing was probably an issue for not knowing what the resolution, if any, was going to be at the time. The rep was probably just guessing, and didn't know what the outcome ultimately was going to be. Not their fault, just assuming people wouldn't get free things since issues like this are rare.
That would be false. These guys are not the ones making the decisions and a lot of the time they have to answer a question that they don't really have the answer to. Happens all the time in any large company's customer support, it's easier to reassure a customer with a answer they make up than just tell them "I don't know." Because no one wants them asking for their manager.
The Elite
BOSS
They should, but they don't. It's the reality of working for a giant multinational company. Shit takes a while to filter down to the employees that actually need to know what's going on.
Don't forget, the higher ups actually have to figure out what the hell happened first. Then they need to decide how to react to it. Finally, an email will be sent to support channel management, which will then be passed down to those people in the chat logs.
In the meantime, customer support reps just come up with something instead of saying "I don't know."
Lol I always love those reactions to customer support. Shows who's worked in a big company before. Usually the people who need to know always know last lol.
3rdamention
Member
I am assuming Fallout 4 and its DLC will get a big boost in the Xbox Store's June top "sellers".
Kilau
Gold Member
PS3 or PS4?
The Elite
BOSS
One of the things I learned working for Blockbuster all those years, if I didn't know something that corporate might have been up to I just told the customer that I didn't know. No bullshit. Just say it the way it is. If they get frustrated tell them to call head office.
A lot of people start out in these situations and get nervous about saying they don't have the answer to something so they just say what they think will make the customer happy or the most logical answer given the situation. It's not necessarily the right answer though.
It's tough being at the bottom.
shanafan
Member
Probably not for the short window of the error. And I would imagine the large base of Xbox One players had no idea about the error. Really had to be on the top of your Twitter and NeoGAF game yesterday to hear about it
Compsiox
Banned
Started playing today but I got an error that there isn't sufficient space to save? I have no save files whatsoever and over half my hard drive is free space
Gonna have to beat it in one run. Just leave your Xbox on for days!!!
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Does Microsoft even have their own support staff? Typically these are outsourced to Poland, India and Brasil, where giant support centers work for every major company at the same time. Depending on time you get connected to one of those centers. They have their daily briefings but they can't react to realtime events like this.
As someone in customer service, not really. I mean word should be filtering down about big stuff but things that effect a small percentage of people, you often don't hear about at all. Since it was getting news stories, they might get an email but that's after they had been asked about it of course.
Customer service is like any other corporate entity, you hear about some stuff but the brass aren't giving you a run down for anything that happens just because you might get asked. And if they are third party vendors, they're even less likely to be kept informed.
Both. The PS3 and PS4 versions are still accessible and fully playable for me.
Think of the people who would see the publicity and be frustrated they missed it. There's always going to be some group pissed off.
Furthermore, it focuses people into watching and reacting to price errors. If you establish a precedence of leaving it, people who thought "it's not worth it, they will just take it away" will go for it too.
I don't think that matters much to Bethesda or Microsoft, but it does seem like if they were going to do it, they would have already.