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what, there's like a month to fix software problems
Yep. Xbox Live is basically one of MS's trump cards, if they lose the trust consumers have in that, well, it won't be pretty.Id say more than a billion dollars is a hell of a cost to pay:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...ed_ring_of_death_costs_Microsoft_more_than_1B
The price of a fault OS and Live that does not function well for weeks or even months would cost them in mindshare, people are already very negative towards their console. Any bad news is magnified by several times.
But what about the Yield problems? The SDK problems? the immature development tools problems?
A 4 to 5 month delay would not hurt them much in the long run if it means launching with a better (not broken service) and in more countries.
What a nightmare. Live/Online being borked would greatly damage third parties (Titanfall specially being it a multiplayer only game) and customers alike. Compensation/devolutions in mass if this turns out to be true. Microsoft must deny this shit before it turns viral/toxic. If true then delay.
Why not ? It could be done if you write the entire OS to do so.
But what about the Yield problems? The SDK problems? the immature development tools problems?
A 4 to 5 month delay would not hurt them much in the long run if it means launching with a better (not broken service) and in more countries.
They don't have the option to just give Sony 5 months. If they do that they'll be playing catch up for the whole gen. It's do or die at this point.But what about the Yield problems? The SDK problems? the immature development tools problems?
A 4 to 5 month delay would not hurt them much in the long run if it means launching with a better (not broken service) and in more countries.
They don't have the option to just give Sony 5 months. If they do that they'll be playing catch up for the whole gen. It's do or die at this point.
I don't know...I think in 5 months they could do a whole rebrand/relaunch surrounding Titanfall at $400 without Kinect. They might miss out on this holiday's sales but I don't think the PS4 is going to get such an unsurmountable lead off 5 months.
I dunno how much weight this holds but....
https://twitter.com/robertflorence/status/394752282392530944
Related?
Considering they couldn't do that in the past 5 months, I doubt they'll be able to do anything while the PS4 gets a free pass.I don't know...I think in 5 months they could do a whole rebrand/relaunch surrounding Titanfall at $400 without Kinect.
"Beta Tested in the future"MS trying to hide this things is shameful and so unethical
Fuck i almost feel that they tries to sell us a beta testing pass for $500
So the api for connectivity and voip aren't strictly standardized making any big tweaks or changes in the OS break a random amount of games depending on how the devs chose to implement them?
Who is he?
Who is he?
Work in PlayStation Biz Dev doing cool deals with cool people.
GAF is turning into games industry tremor machine. Now reaching 7+ magnitudes.
That is something i don't get why would you do that.
Who is he?
Who is he?
This could certainly explain, as I stated in an previous post, why members of the Xbox team may not answers such critical questions directly. The approach could be to wait until the product and services are launched and let that do the talking. If things are more serious than simply crunching to hit functionality on launch date, not counting minor issues, it could be a gamble that backfires in the short term. But,...We'll find out soon.
Shahid's boss. So yeah, he doesn't really add to the "more hints to bad news".
Playstation manager of Strategic something....baah he is the guy that keeps on firing Shahid Kamal everyday.
All this talk and it's basically you slapping a glove across their face. Thuway is a bird so he cannot be included in a human fight, BruceLeeRoy is Bruce Lee so it's unfair to you, Proelite is like the person who'll just kill everyone, and famousmormer is an alcoholic.Major and Penello tried to answer questions only to be thrown shit at. The best choice of action is just to let GAF be GAF (nobody will buy Kinect, Wii U is the greatest thing ever, nobody will buy Kinect again) and answer on launch day. The system will work flawless as advertised and slowly people will realize they've been played hard by the marketing shills they call insiders. GAF is so easy to manipulate, of course marketing on both sides uses that. Isn't it strangely convenient that for every good MS news there is a new bomb hanging over X1? I have never experienced such a campaign to desperately get people to not buy a console. I mean I'm getting an X1 but why should I care what you get?
And if you look closely you see the same BS in every one of the so called insiders posts. Things are incredibad for X1 ... But they might just work it out in time. Resolution is 720p but they are working on it. ESRAM has issues bzt they might make it work. There are yield issues but that could change come launch. The OS and Xbox Live are having huge issues but they have some time left. It's their insurance. To keep their account alive. It's moronic. You either have info and stand behind it with your credibility or you don't. The way it currently works here some can spread the most ridiculous BS and get away with it.
"I heard PS4 will be delayed to 2014 because the system runs too hot with release code and constantly shuts down. Sony is hard at work finding a solution, but they might still make it. Doesn't look good though."
See how that works? If you see the infamous but, be sceptical.
Shahid's boss. So yeah, he doesn't really add to the "more hints to bad news".
Playstation manager of Strategic something....baah he is the guy that keeps on firing Shahid Kamal everyday.
lolThat is something i don't get why would you do that.
Either developers asked for it or upper management fucked up given the stories it seems the latter is the source of all the problems.
So does anyone really think mort's leak is not true?
He has posted follow up snippets of it in this thread and by Gaf's rules for leaking must have provided the mods with at least two sources or face instant ban
I may or may not be stating this to try and get a comment from a passing mod, please don't hurt me MUST FINISH SUMMARY
Major and Penello tried to answer questions only to be thrown shit at. The best choice of action is just to let GAF be GAF (nobody will buy Kinect, Wii U is the greatest thing ever, nobody will buy Kinect again) and answer on launch day. The system will work flawless as advertised and slowly people will realize they've been played hard by the marketing shills they call insiders. GAF is so easy to manipulate, of course marketing on both sides uses that. Isn't it strangely convenient that for every good MS news there is a new bomb hanging over X1? I have never experienced such a campaign to desperately get people to not buy a console. I mean I'm getting an X1 but why should I care what you get?
And if you look closely you see the same BS in every one of the so called insiders posts. Things are incredibad for X1 ... But they might just work it out in time. Resolution is 720p but they are working on it. ESRAM has issues bzt they might make it work. There are yield issues but that could change come launch. The OS and Xbox Live are having huge issues but they have some time left. It's their insurance. To keep their account alive. It's moronic. You either have info and stand behind it with your credibility or you don't. The way it currently works here some can spread the most ridiculous BS and get away with it.
"I heard PS4 will be delayed to 2014 because the system runs too hot with release code and constantly shuts down. Sony is hard at work finding a solution, but they might still make it. Doesn't look good though."
See how that works? If you see the infamous but, be sceptical.
I personally think it's crazy to believe it's not true. Too many people chiming in and too many leakers for it not to be.
As of right now, what I believe is possible to doubt is whether A) It's as bad as Mort is saying or B) It will not be sorted out by launch
GAF is turning into games industry tremor machine. Now reaching 7+ magnitudes.
Maybe the process of handing over certain online features from the Win8-OS to the game-OS is complicated, and/or due to the strong isolation between them, done via the cloud. In this case, there wouldn't be a common OS component driving those features. Instead, an individual component in the Win8-OS and another component as part of the game's process would handle those features, synchronized via the online infrastructure.
Major and Penello tried to answer questions only to be thrown shit at. The best choice of action is just to let GAF be GAF (nobody will buy Kinect, Wii U is the greatest thing ever, nobody will buy Kinect again) and answer on launch day. The system will work flawless as advertised and slowly people will realize they've been played hard by the marketing shills they call insiders. GAF is so easy to manipulate, of course marketing on both sides uses that. Isn't it strangely convenient that for every good MS news there is a new bomb hanging over X1? I have never experienced such a campaign to desperately get people to not buy a console. I mean I'm getting an X1 but why should I care what you get?
And if you look closely you see the same BS in every one of the so called insiders posts. Things are incredibad for X1 ... But they might just work it out in time. Resolution is 720p but they are working on it. ESRAM has issues bzt they might make it work. There are yield issues but that could change come launch. The OS and Xbox Live are having huge issues but they have some time left. It's their insurance. To keep their account alive. It's moronic. You either have info and stand behind it with your credibility or you don't. The way it currently works here some can spread the most ridiculous BS and get away with it.
"I heard PS4 will be delayed to 2014 because the system runs too hot with release code and constantly shuts down. Sony is hard at work finding a solution, but they might still make it. Doesn't look good though."
See how that works? If you see the infamous but, be sceptical.
I don't know...I think in 5 months they could do a whole rebrand/relaunch surrounding Titanfall at $400 without Kinect. They might miss out on this holiday's sales but I don't think the PS4 is going to get such an unsurmountable lead off 5 months.
Aah so parties and other online functionality life in the cloud?
Honestly I keep holding out the notion that one of the rumors/leaks we pass on gaf about the XB1 [COD being 720p etc.] will turn out false and MS are just trying to teach us a hard lesson
then I realize MS like money and if they could confirm that damaging rumors were false they would. So I don't know what to make of it to be honest
What no obligatory link to my thread summary yet on this page? Gotta fix that
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=87786946#post87786946
Yeah, the email he received is probably from someone reading Gaf
Yes I feel your pain. But alas I have come here to remind you all of a different approach to your gaming needs. A different way to play the game. A way for you to be your own master so to speak.
Major and Penello tried to answer questions only to be thrown shit at. The best choice of action is just to let GAF be GAF (nobody will buy Kinect, Wii U is the greatest thing ever, nobody will buy Kinect again) and answer on launch day. The system will work flawless as advertised and slowly people will realize they've been played hard by the marketing shills they call insiders. GAF is so easy to manipulate, of course marketing on both sides uses that. Isn't it strangely convenient that for every good MS news there is a new bomb hanging over X1? I have never experienced such a campaign to desperately get people to not buy a console. I mean I'm getting an X1 but why should I care what you get?
And if you look closely you see the same BS in every one of the so called insiders posts. Things are incredibad for X1 ... But they might just work it out in time. Resolution is 720p but they are working on it. ESRAM has issues bzt they might make it work. There are yield issues but that could change come launch. The OS and Xbox Live are having huge issues but they have some time left. It's their insurance. To keep their account alive. It's moronic. You either have info and stand behind it with your credibility or you don't. The way it currently works here some can spread the most ridiculous BS and get away with it.
"I heard PS4 will be delayed to 2014 because the system runs too hot with release code and constantly shuts down. Sony is hard at work finding a solution, but they might still make it. Doesn't look good though."
See how that works? If you see the infamous but, be sceptical.