ArchedThunder
Banned
While it has its fair share of issues, FFXV is a pretty good game and if they build on the foundation of this game I think FFXVI could be truly something special.
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Final Fantasy Brand Was Considered In Danger Pre-FFXV, Had <5M Initial Sales Target
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That started with XIII, though.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Yeah, this is my thinking too. The likelihood of them actually ending the series if XV failed seems extremely low. It just would have resulted in a different direction moving forward and undoubtedly lower budgets for mainline instalments.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
So much for the narrative that "Square only wants to make action games". They predicted low sales because it wasnt turn based!
Prince of Space
Banned
I've completed two playthroughs of FFXV and thoroughly enjoyed every minute of each. Haven't been that into a Final Fantasy since X dropped during winter break in high school. Always great to hear about its success; it's definitely a big step back in the right direction for the single-player games. For the first time in a while, I'm pretty excited to see where the series is headed!
Based Tabata.
Based Tabata.
Dragon1893
Member
That story with his daughter is sad, I hope he's enjoying some quality time with his family.
More remakes, yes! But I'd prefer them to stay faithful to the originals, and not re-imagined too much like FF7R. Turn based combat can very much still be in modern games
ShadowSoldier89
Member
you are the worst person in the world
Good Guy Gone Bad
Member
Excellent news
Reviewed well, sold well, exceeded expectations, all great things that a great game deserves.
SE still needs to get the FF Brand in order, but XV and XIV: ARR and hopefully FFVII remake are all good starts this generation.
Reviewed well, sold well, exceeded expectations, all great things that a great game deserves.
SE still needs to get the FF Brand in order, but XV and XIV: ARR and hopefully FFVII remake are all good starts this generation.
I guess many here on gaf wanted FF XV to fail to show Square Enix that Final Fantasy is only turn based. It seems they were not far off, considering this:
It's now Tabata's fault if Final Fantasy won't return to its glorious turn based gameplay roots. He is not a savior, at all.
It's now Tabata's fault if Final Fantasy won't return to its glorious turn based gameplay roots. He is not a savior, at all.
j/k
SporeCrawler
Member
The game is objectively bad. The game runs crappy, the overworld is empty and you cannot freely explore it (weird barriers exist that doesnt let you to go to places that seem so near but are just out of reach), you cant swim, your car only works in certain situations, the battle system is simplistic but yet the camera is terribad and after chapter 8 the openworld just vanishes and the game is just a crappy corridor game.
They can start with a 3D VI and an offline XI - in the meantime I'd enjoy me some Dissidia if SE released the new ones outside Japan...
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Flawed as it is, I'm happy that a game as unique as FFXV was released by a major publisher and found success. With this and XIV, I'm pretty happy with the current state of FF. Now, just give me Dissidia and Theatrythm on Switch, dammit.
Lights and Waves
Member
Lmao as if. FF7 prints money. If FFXV failed, they would have just gone full steam ahead with remaking FF6 as well.
They probably could have saved a lot of money if they didn't make Kingsglaive, but what do I know?
They probably could have saved a lot of money if they didn't make Kingsglaive, but what do I know?
DarkLordMalik
Member
Turn-based combat will live on in the series in the spin-offs like World of FF while I doubt the next game will be full-on action, it might have another new type of battle system with a more active involvement of the player.
badcrumble
Member
As an FF fan, I'm glad it succeeded.
charlequin
Banned
Right. It's important to note here that 6m worldwide is above their expectations, but still the continuation of a major brand decline worldwide (and especially in Japan.) As with XIV:ARR, the fact that they managed to ship a functional and respectable game out of the mess they were given is impressive and speaks well to Tabata's team's ability to triage a disaster scenario, but it doesn't address the underlying organization-wide problems that led to XII, XIII, XIV, and XV all going deep into the weeds and burning enormous quantities of wasted cash during extended development, then shipping essentially unfinished. A turnaround for the brand would be launching an XVI in a reasonable timeframe with a significant sales increase over XV; their efforts on XV have put them in the position where they have the opportunity for that success but they're still a long ways from proving that they can take advantage of it.
Dissidia barely has enough to release as a 60 dollar release, want less stuff than SFV?
manzoman96
Member
Glad FFXV turned out to be a success for them. Despite the story flaws you could really tell that the work was put in.
flintstryker
Banned
I suppose this means going forward they won't be doing anymore turn base systems? if that's the case the series may as well be dead for all I care
People here are blind apparently.
Even FFXIV had a better narrative in Heavensward. XV story is still a mess but the sales are good news
In my opinion they could reach the same target with half the job they've done on this game. Hope they won't focus on the open world mechanics again in the next game.DarkLordMalik
Member
Ehhh..... you can have your mobile games and leave us with our offline SP FF games. No one is forcing you to get them and SE will keep releasing new mobile FF games making you happy.
There's no way it costed over 100 million, lol.
It's much below that, but none of us really know.
Thats funny comment considering The 13 era is what brought money in
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Well done on making your own argument void within the first sentence. C'mon son.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
GhostTrick
Banned
DiipuSurotu
Banned
4chan leaker redeemed?
Code:
[URL="http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1233181"]"Is FFXVI being worked on right now? and by who?"
FFXVI is only going to happen if XV does well[/URL]ArkhamFantasy
Member
Spirits within was over 100 million dollars, if be surprised if kingsglaive cost 1/3 of that.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Spirit Within was developed on a tech that was revolutionary at that time + it also covered the cost of a new studio in America, headed by Sakaguchi. This was the reason the budget was huge.
Kingsglaive is a mix of outsourced assets (cheap) + the likely CGI budget allocated for FFXV into a movie. It is mostly in-house and done at studio in Japan so the cost is likely lower compared to something like Spirits Within.
Do we have an official budget for Advent Children?
He leaked the story, so I guess he was already redeemed
Posts like this make me really glad that XV is successful.
Haters will hate regardless of what they do with the series.
MrJoobJoob
Member
While I'm as happy as everyone else that FFXV sold & the FF brand will keep going on strong for at least another cycle, I hope they don't learn all the wrong lessons from XV.
The Last One
Member
I watched the movie a few days ago and the tech still holds up pretty well. It was really beyond it's time if we are talking about the CG quality.
Stormblessed
Member
It would be sad if the franchise that saved Squaresoft was killed by Square-Enix's mismanagement, but it isn't surprising to hear it'd gotten that bad. At least any FFXVI will have a chance at being its own thing.
Dangansona
Member
That's the right way of looking at it. It was a salvage job that somehow ended up to be a beautiful mess and my GOTY. There is really a lot of elements of the game that XV does well, and I can't accept the notion that the game is a critical or series failure.
With that weight lifted off their shoulders, I would expect a much more focused and polished XVI just like I expect Ueda's follow up to be completed in a more timely manner.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Wait Tabata basically confirmed that FFXVI wasn't anywhere in development
Ito where are you
Ito where are you
