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Final Fantasy XIII confirmed for Xbox 360
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i dunno, that freeze shot of gameplay looks really really jagged and well.... not as good as the media has been hyping it? ive always read in mags, people saying how square said theyre game would look almost identical to the cg they were using and it evidently is nowhere near...not that it could even be possible im not sure.Loudninja said:
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This plus the optional HDD install coming in the fall updates...widgetraf said:
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Consider that it's the new de facto console wars repository and is to a large extent keeping a LOT of the post-E3 bullshit in a single thread. That's my guess as to why it hasn't been closed yet.Himuro said:
Rpgmonkey said:Wait, DKS3713 has a new trailer?
Now I really wish it wasn't such a closed-off event.
Not sure, but insiders have mentioned that TGS will be the time where they have a media blow out with real time demos and what not, so who knows...
And I didn't see this before, but this is an interesting quote from Kitase...
I wonder if this means they'll be taking advantage of the processor and storage capacity.
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I think we should call fakes on SE's Cinematics...they're always wayyyy better than the game footage. :lol
Kagari said:
That's my understanding from that quote. They must be pretty confident in their crystal tools and it sounds like they don't expect much trouble in porting it to 360 even if the game is built "specific to Sony's hardware". And I hope they're right because I would really hate to see the NA version get delayed because of porting problems.
Aru said:
They're not.
Those scenes are just target/concept renders, what they were aiming for in-game graphics, from two years ago. And the snippets shown in the E3 trailer of 2008 are unchanged.
Sometimes I have a hard time beleiving it's even possible to play game in any capacity at this point."Take advantage of the storage capacity" how, exactly?Kagari said:
It's not like Final Fantasy has never appeared on multiple disks.
I just don't understand why people act like every game that's not on a blu-ray has a hard limit of 7 gigs or something. There have been so many releases, throughout history and on many consoles, that have just proven this to be a ridiculous argument. Including the PS1 and PS2.
It's fine that PS3 plays a new movie format, but the actual benefit of development for a linear JRPG is zero.
The only differential is in how it is distributed.
Will the PS3 version come on one Blu-Ray? I'm sure it will.
Is there anything about the development process that will change as a result of that? About the only thing I can think of is that it may very well require harddrive installs to make up for the fact that the streaming speed is lowered.
So "take advantage?" No.
But nice try.
Hunahan said:
I doubt FFXIII will have these problems, but the latter Final Fantasy games on PS1 (VIII and IX) had serious storage problems that multiple discs could not fix, and in the end entire areas of the game were locked in the final discs, unable to be visited in any way shape or form. So, yeah, they could've benefitted greatly from more storage capacity.
Who knows what will happen with XIII.
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I actually don't think this was the case... most of the information distributed across multiple discs were the FMVs. The locked areas were probably design choices unless the developers have stated otherwise. They take up hardly anything on the disc.
Now... Final Fantasy XII did feature some heavily compressed voices. That was annoying.
jett said:I doubt FFXIII will have these problems, but the latter Final Fantasy games on PS1 (VIII and IX) had serious storage problems that multiple discs could not fix, and in the end entire areas of the game were locked in the final discs, unable to be visited in any way shape or form. So, yeah, they could've benefitted greatly from more storage capacity.
I actually don't think this was the case... most of the information distributed across multiple discs were the FMVs. The locked areas were probably design choices unless the developers have stated otherwise. They take up hardly anything on the disc.
Now... Final Fantasy XII did feature some heavily compressed voices. That was annoying.
BocoDragon said:Every time this thread is bumped... another tear falls down my face and into my box of Pocky.
I actually don't think this was the case... most of the information distributed across multiple discs were the FMVs. The locked areas were probably design choices unless the developers have stated otherwise. They take up hardly anything on the disc.
Now... Final Fantasy XII did feature some heavily compressed voices. That was annoying.
Yeah, what I was getting at was that the areas were locked because they were saving space for the endgame FMVs. TBH, the locking never made sense to me plotwise in either game. Hell, I don't think they even explain it in FF9.
And YES, the sound compression in XII is horriffic. AM radio sounds nicer.
Karma said:
From my understanding the crystal tools were developed on the PC and then optimized for PS3. So crystal tools are building blocks that can be optimized to fit the spec of whatever platform it's being used for, I think. I could be wrong but I don't know why they would code the game on PC and then port to PS3, more like port the crystal tools to work on PS3 and code from there.
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I just don't think that's the case.. The game data and pre-rendered backgrounds take up almost nothing on the disc... the only thing that really prevented FMVs from fitting on every disc was the other FMVs.jett said:
Hell FF7 had the game data and prerendered backgrounds cloned on each disc... the only thing differing between the discs was the FMVs. I think the other games were similar but I never checked.
I think they locked areas in the latter games because they didn't want to imply that they had programmed new sidequests for them. There was no point in going to these areas, and their theory at the time was that you might as well just lock them (which I disagree with).
I could be wrong, but I believe that the multiple disc phenom was entirely due to FMV. All of FF7, 8 and 9 would have fit on a single disc without the movies.
Nah, the last disk is almost always the smallest one (including FF9). Actual space limits are hardly ever a problem for fitting the entire world, and even on the single-disk FFX you ran into the same phenomenon. It's a conscious choice.jett said:I doubt FFXIII will have these problems, but the latter Final Fantasy games on PS1 (VIII and IX) had serious storage problems that multiple discs could not fix, and in the end entire areas of the game were locked in the final discs, unable to be visited in any way shape or form. So, yeah, they could've benefitted greatly from more storage capacity.
Who knows what will happen with XIII.
If you want my honest opinion about why the games are designed this way, I believe that like many aspects of JRPG design, it is incorporated to sell hint guides. If you could actually go back to every aspect of the game, the need to have someone walk you through the important objectives to complete before proceeding wouldn't exist.
It's cynical to look at things this way, but it's pretty difficult to really ignore that some of the obscure "secrets" are specifically planned to ensure that extra pop, and having that one area where you can never go back to is a part of this.
Eh. I don't think I'm making something out of nothing so much as I'm sick of hearing the same thing over and over that doesn't make sense.Loudninja said:
Either way, I shouldn't have taken the bait. People will believe whatever they want to.
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Final Fantasy V had areas locked in the endgame, and it was on a cartridge. I think it might just be a way to save on scripting - recompiling the game without certain areas included in the code might honestly take more effort than just closing some areas off. The prerendered backgrounds do take up some space, true, but I'm almost certain they're not taken out of the final discs of 8/9. Just blocked off. I could be wrong.
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The one thing I take away from this is that the port to 360 will likely be super smooth.
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isamu said:
No. Although The Last Remnant has, so Square-Enix is definitely pursuing at least some PC development.
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Deus Ex Machina said:
This announcement is worth it for things like this alone.
What specific areas?jett said:I doubt FFXIII will have these problems, but the latter Final Fantasy games on PS1 (VIII and IX) had serious storage problems that multiple discs could not fix, and in the end entire areas of the game were locked in the final discs, unable to be visited in any way shape or form. So, yeah, they could've benefitted greatly from more storage capacity.
Who knows what will happen with XIII.
I always assumed that for FF7-9, the entire game world fit on one disc; the only thing that made it require more was the video.
There's another post on IGN where some guy basically feels like he should "not be here" or something to that effect over FF13 going multi. Very, very sad...
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So is he mad that he spent ~$200 extra when he didn't need to? Does he really, really hate the PS3 and mad at S-E because they made him believe he was forced to buy it? Is he a HUGE Sony fanboy who thought the PS3 would dominate and is only now resolving his cognitive dissonance?Deus Ex Machina said:
The mind boggles.
By the way, I thought that some of you might get a kick out of this blast from the past. It's chock full of healthy, delicious crow for just about everyone in it.
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Suicide thing is totally a joke.
If it's not, does he not realize that it's still coming for PS3? It's not like that's changed at all.
If it's not, does he not realize that it's still coming for PS3? It's not like that's changed at all.
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