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Firewatch Review Thread

Happy to see all the positive reviews.

It's a Unity game. It won't and cannot be fixed. I'm positive of that. Not a single console Unity game with launch performance issues has been fixed with a patch.

That's a shame. I was hoping to buy this tomorrow but I'm in two minds now.
 

bombshell

Member
FWIW, we're currently talking to both Sony and Unity and we're all working hard to to optimize performance of Firewatch on PS4.

It's tricky, because it really requires all three partners working together to improve — it's not something we can tackle on our own, unlike a game bug — but we'll definitely continue to patch all platforms with every content and performance fix we can over time!

To summarize: we're on it. :)

(I've played through the game multiple times on a PlayStation 4 and enjoyed it thoroughly! But I'm not a PC gamer so…)

Sounds good, hopefully you're able to improve it through patches in collaboration with Unity and Sony.
 

Mattenth

Member
It's a Unity game. It won't and cannot be fixed. I'm positive of that. Not a single console Unity game with launch performance issues has been fixed with a patch.

How big is the download? Surely PS4 has some nuclear option that redownloads the entire distributable?
 

Compsiox

Banned
I can't read reviews right now. Is the score taking hits mainly for performance and everything else is fantastic?
 

nOoblet16

Member
It's a Unity game. It won't and cannot be fixed. I'm positive of that. Not a single console Unity game with launch performance issues has been fixed with a patch.
I kind of find it funny that the Unity games that target 60 could have managed a stable performance if they were just capped at 30 but because that didn't happen even those games ended up with unstable performance hah.

A relatively simple looking game with low geometric details like this is running at medium/high mixture on PS4 with unstable performance. I wonder if Unity Tech will ever fix their engine.
 

kinoki

Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I'm looking forward to both this and The Witness but I just finished Everybody's Gone to the Rapture so my walk'em'up need is filled for now. Looks amazing. I need to play this.
 
FWIW, we're currently talking to both Sony and Unity and we're all working hard to to optimize performance of Firewatch on PS4.

It's tricky, because it really requires all three partners working together to improve — it's not something we can tackle on our own, unlike a game bug — but we'll definitely continue to patch all platforms with every content and performance fix we can over time!

To summarize: we're on it. :)

(I've played through the game multiple times on a PlayStation 4 and enjoyed it thoroughly! But I'm not a PC gamer so…)

Glad to hear (read) that. Thank you and good luck.
 

Anno

Member
Great reviews. Hopefully the PS4 issues get fixed. Sounds like an all around great job, Campo Santo guys. Can't wait to give it a run.
 

tuxfool

Banned
I kind of find it funny that the Unity games that target 60 could have managed a stable performance if they were just capped at 30 but because that didn't happen even those games ended up with unstable performance hah.

A relatively simple looking game with low geometric details like this is running at medium/high mixture on PS4 with unstable performance. I wonder if Unity Tech will ever fix their engine.

I do think that developers are starting to get annoyed at Unity for things like this. I read something just the other day on Gamasutra.

But seriously, is this true?.,
I couldn't say whether it will always be true, but there is a consistent pattern to it, especially in more technically advanced games. I remember the issues people were having with Dreamfall Chapters. The developer was working on it, but they did say that their hands were tied somewhat by Unity. This was back when it was still using Unity4, which prompted them to an expensive transition to Unity5. The performance is a lot better there, but still "not good" IMHO.

I don't know what version of Unity Firewatch is using. Maybe it is 5?
 
Completely unacceptable that the PS4 performance is as lackluster as is being reported, this is by no means a taxing title and is extremely disappointing.
 
Definitely will pick it up when it is heavily discounted. The possible PS4 performance issues and what I heard from the spoilery reviews has me patiently waiting on the sidelines. I want to experience but not dying to do so.
 

viveks86

Member
It's a Unity game. It won't and cannot be fixed. I'm positive of that. Not a single console Unity game with launch performance issues has been fixed with a patch.

Whoa! Really? Something I should keep in mind going forward. Getting this on PC though
 

Oneself

Member
Unity seems to be such a shitty engine on consoles. Too bad, I'm not sure that I want to spend 20$ on a game with that many issues.

I was reaaally looking forward to it. =/
 

Lan Dong Mik

And why would I want them?
Damn, super bummed to hear about these PS4 issues. Are there any videos out there showing what the problems are?
 
Fuck man. I really want to get this game, but I don't want to stop playing Digimon because usually with games I don't get back to it that soon lol
 

Bootsy

Member
Glad to hear people are enjoying this. Preordered just to support the CS guys and it seems they've delivered.

There's no preload on steam right? Anyone know when it unlocks?
 
FWIW, we're currently talking to both Sony and Unity and we're all working hard to to optimize performance of Firewatch on PS4.

It's tricky, because it really requires all three partners working together to improve — it's not something we can tackle on our own, unlike a game bug — but we'll definitely continue to patch all platforms with every content and performance fix we can over time!

To summarize: we're on it. :)

(I've played through the game multiple times on a PlayStation 4 and enjoyed it thoroughly! But I'm not a PC gamer so…)

Oh, thanks for posting this. Might go ahead and buy it then.
 

Nameless

Member
Still on for the PS4 version. Unless the general consensus is a game is broken/unplayable(which doesn't seem to be the case here) I've found it's usually best to see for myself. Tech issues bother and distract gamers to sometimes wildly varying degrees: Witcher, SOMA, and Fallout, for example, were deemed borderline unplayable by some while plenty of people were having a blast with them. Seems like a similar situation with FW.
 

StoveOven

Banned
A little disappointed but about what I expected from the reviews. Still planning on picking this up once I finish XCOM.
 

Oneself

Member
FWIW, we're currently talking to both Sony and Unity and we're all working hard to to optimize performance of Firewatch on PS4.

It's tricky, because it really requires all three partners working together to improve — it's not something we can tackle on our own, unlike a game bug — but we'll definitely continue to patch all platforms with every content and performance fix we can over time!

To summarize: we're on it. :)

(I've played through the game multiple times on a PlayStation 4 and enjoyed it thoroughly! But I'm not a PC gamer so…)
I guess this should be added to the OP.
 

Anno

Member
Does it ever get worse on PS4 than that short Giant Bomb playthroughs? There were a couple noticeable hitches there but it never seemed more than what I would think of as annoying.
 
Great reviews, job very well done to Campo Santo.
This is my type of game with a good focus on exploration, unique visual palette and story

Now to go dark and play this for myself over the weekend.
 

nOoblet16

Member
Do you have examples? It sounds like you're painting a really wide brush.

He already said not a single one of them, which means pretty much all those games...those would be your example hah.

But yes it's true Unity simply does not perform well on consoles.
 

Bluenoser

Member
I noticed the stuttering watching Access Playstation play it. They must be simply PR people because they have never said anything negative about any game I've seen them play, even if it's staring them in the face as they play it.

Really disappointing- I was looking forward to this. With the comments about the story feeling unfinished, and the performance issues, this is a pass for me- at least for now.
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
Still on for the PS4 version. Unless the general consensus is a game is broken/unplayable(which doesn't seem to be the case here) I've found it's usually best to see for myself. Tech issues bother and distract gamers to sometimes wildly varying degrees: Witcher, SOMA, and Fallout, for example, were deemed borderline unplayable by some while plenty of people were having a blast with them. Seems like a similar situation with FW.

Same here, and it doesn't seem to have affected the PS4 review scores unduly.
 

sikkinixx

Member
Performance issues bum me the fuck out. I figured as much when the GB video was on PC "on max!" which even being somewhat snarky about it, probably meant the PS4 version either didn't look nearly as good or ran crappy.
 

breakfuss

Member
Still on for the PS4 version. Unless the general consensus is a game is broken/unplayable(which doesn't seem to be the case here) I've found it's usually best to see for myself. Tech issues bother and distract gamers to sometimes wildly varying degrees: Witcher, SOMA, and Fallout, for example, were deemed borderline unplayable by some while plenty of people were having a blast with them. Seems like a similar situation with FW.

Yeah, with Witcher...I never really understood the big hooplah. I've always found it very serviceable on PS4. So if that's anything to go by I should be fine with Firewatch. Now Bethesda games lol? Nah. Fool me once...
 

tuxfool

Banned
He already said not a single one of them, which means pretty much all those games...those would be your example hah.

But yes it's true Unity simply does not perform well on consoles.

It doesn't perform particularly well on PC either but it is manageable.
 
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