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[RPGCrazied]

I guess that is where the 5 minutes speed run comes from, skip cutscenes, go to main objective, beat game.

 

[Genesis Knight]

Never played an MGS game all the way through. (Dabbled with MGS1 and 2.) Is this the entry point for people new to the franchise?

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Play4Real is a parody site.

 

[Mpl90]

...Oh Jesus, this is the parody site. Now I remember :lol :lol

 

[Ninja Scooter]

13 minutes? I've taken shits for longer than that.

 

[JawzPause]

I love that quote lol.

So basically the further back in time the game is set the better it is?

Spoiler

Although MGS2 is my favorite.

 

[DaSorcerer7]

13 minutes? I've taken shits for longer than that.

Lmao

 

[DieH@rd]

So basically the further back in time the game is set the better it is?

Spoiler

Although MGS2 is my favorite.

Its a timeline, not a comparison of game quality.

[Although for many, this also works as a comparison of quality ]

 

[Alienous]

Its a timeline, not a comparison of game quality.

That's what he said.

 

[jacksepticeye]

and who the fuck are they?

A parody website

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Never played an MGS game all the way through. (Dabbled with MGS1 and 2.) Is this the entry point for people new to the franchise?

Sorry no,
MGS3 -> PW -> GZ + TPP
GZ is a direct epilogue to Peace Walker which was a direct sequel to 3

If you absolutely can't do MGS1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > PW > GZ + TPP

Even MG1 and MG2 will probably factor into TPP in some way.

 

[Spaghetti]

Never played an MGS game all the way through. (Dabbled with MGS1 and 2.) Is this the entry point for people new to the franchise?

might as well dive in with ground zeroes and just read what's in the backstory tab on the menu screen

 

[KojiKnight]

and who the fuck are they?

If you had taken 2 seconds to look at their main page, you would have realized it was a parody website... Though of all of their stories, this was by far the most believable one.

 

[maxcriden]

http://www.p4rgaming.com/total-play...round-zeroes-is-13-minutes-without-cutscenes/

we have a winner.

Haha, this site is so great.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

The demo for XIII-2 took me about an hour and a half. GZ shortest full retail game in this gen and last?

 

[iLLmAtlc]

I think Kojima has stated many times that MGS1 is his favourite and that he wouldn't change much or anything about it

 

[Screaming Meat]

I think Kojima has stated many times that MGS1 is his favourite and that he wouldn't change much or anything about it

Didn't he say multiple times that he regrets the whole clone element to the story? Also, how involved was he with Twin Snakes? There are quite a few changes there.

 

[Rogue Agent]

"When creators are forced to justify the length of a game, I think that's one of the biggest failures of our industry" - Shadows of the Damned director Massimo Guarini

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/it...to-justify-game-length-dev-says/1100-6417586/

 

[Screaming Meat]

"When creators are forced to justify the length of a game, I think that's one of the biggest failures of our industry" - Shadows of the Damned director Massimo Guarini

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/it...to-justify-game-length-dev-says/1100-6417586/

I think the money boys need to justify the cost rather than the length.

 

[crazyrabbits]

How long were Deus Ex and Thief: The Dark Project demoes if you didn't rush them?

I can speak for Deus Ex, because I played that demo religiously before I bought the game.

The DX demo comprised the first two missions, and (if you were sauntering along and completed everything) probably took 2-3 hours to complete. Not counting alternate playstyles (stealth/assault), alternate conversations and side conversations/extraneous areas.

 

[FrankWza]

Sorry no,
MGS3 -> PW -> GZ + TPP
GZ is a direct epilogue to Peace Walker which was a direct sequel to 3

If you absolutely can't do MGS1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > PW > GZ + TPP

Even MG1 and MG2 will probably factor into TPP in some way.

PO is the direct sequel to 3, no?

 

[Betty]

PO is the direct sequel to 3, no?

Yes, but it's status as canon is pretty much null at this point, so we tend to forget about it.

 

[Nafai1123]

I have no problem with shorter games, but they need to be priced accordingly. I consider movies and games to be relatively equal in terms of enjoyment, and expect the price of a game to at least match or exceed the price/time ratio of going to the movies.

 

[NCell]

Yes, but it's status as canon is pretty much null at this point, so we tend to forget about it.

Just because PO is out of the picture as a canon doesn't mean PW is a direct sequel to MGS3

 

[AHA-Lambda]

I love that quote lol.

what, this real? What's the story behind this?

 

[NCell]

what, this real? What's the story behind this?

If you had been paying attention it's the chronological order.

 

[Itchy//Tasty]

Yes, but it's status as canon is pretty much null at this point, so we tend to forget about it.

I see what you did there.

 

[Terbinator]

The demo for XIII-2 took me about an hour and a half. GZ shortest full retail game in this gen and last?

The Tanker chapter alone took me 90 minutes before on the Vita.

If you had been paying attention it's the chronological order.

It's also true from a gameplay perspective too.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

If you had been paying attention it's the chronological order.

Is that all? Konami UK told Kojima to shut up over that?

 

[SJRB]

what, this real? What's the story behind this?

It's the timeline of the series, but it's being used completely out of that context in this thread.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

It's the timeline of the series, but it's being used completely out of that context in this thread.

right ok.

 

[NCell]

It's also true from a gameplay perspective too.

MGS1 isn't better than 2 gameplay wise

 

[kiaaa]

It's the timeline of the series, but it's being used completely out of that context in this thread.

I don't think it's being used out of context. I think it just works both ways for a lot of people.

 

[Ishida]

I don't think it's being used out of context. I think it just works both ways for a lot of people.

And for a lot of people it doesn't. What's your point?

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Just because PO is out of the picture as a canon doesn't mean PW is a direct sequel to MGS3

PW is more the direct sequel though,
Snake's progression to Big Boss due to MGS3's events(wasn't a big deal in PO),

Spoiler

The Boss

plays a somewhat major roll and gets alot of additional development through some audio tapes, major development of the Patriots, etc.

 

[longdi]

It's the timeline of the series, but it's being used completely out of that context in this thread.

maybe kojima is just being cryptic because i would agree with that order in terms of mgs rankings.

3 > 1 > 2 > 1, kojima is my man.

btw every time browse neogaf, i see that the no. of hrs in this topic keeps dropping. lol!

what an expensive demo.

 

[NCell]

PW is more the direct sequel though,
Snake's progression to Big Boss due to MGS3's events(wasn't a big deal in PO),

Spoiler

The Boss

plays a somewhat major roll and gets alot of additional development through some audio tapes, major development of the Patriots, etc.

I agree, what I meant was that there are 10 years apart from each game.
Oh and by the way this whole thing about Kojima's saying that MGS3>1>2>4 is just the chronological order, in no way is he comparing the games quality. Kojima made MGS1 and started on MGS2 immediately after, fans complained about not playing enough with Solid Snake and he made MGS3 (or 007: Snake Eater) proving that Solid's story was over and we could leave it at that, he just made MGS4 for fan service. So I think we could agree that he isn't talking about the quality of the games, otherwise it could go like "MGS2>1>3>4".

 

[infinityBCRT]

Kojima has posted a bunch of pics on twitter of NA/EU media folks playing through the game at some sort of event.

 

[family_guy]

MGS1 isn't better than 2 gameplay wise

As a complete package I'd say MGS1 is better.

 

[Hanmik]

Kojima has posted a bunch of pics on twitter of NA/EU media folks playing through the game at some sort of event.

yeah.. he wanted to post more pictures.. but the people where finished with the game before the flash on his camera recharged.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Kojima has posted a bunch of pics on twitter of NA/EU media folks playing through the entire game at some sort of event.

fixed for accuracy...?

 

[Sn4ke_911]

yeah.. he wanted to post more pictures.. but the people where finished with the game before the flash on his camera recharged.

GOD DAMN YOU!

saw the thread was bumped and expected GI to revise it to "under an hour"

 

[Qalbert]

saw the thread was bumped and expected GI to revise it to "under an hour"

 

[Rogue Agent]

Looks like on the oficial website, they've put 'Prologue' on the Ground Zeroes part and 'Main Story' on The Phantom Pain part.

http://www.konami.jp/mgs5/

 

[Jamix012]

http://www.p4rgaming.com/total-play...round-zeroes-is-13-minutes-without-cutscenes/

we have a winner.

Nice joke site link. Sigh.

 

[SJRB]

Game Informer hub updated with a 15 minute interview with Yoji Shinkawa [art director for the MGS and ZOE games]

 

[Dali]

"When creators are forced to justify the length of a game, I think that's one of the biggest failures of our industry" - Shadows of the Damned director Massimo Guarini

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/it...to-justify-game-length-dev-says/1100-6417586/

Another clueless dev that doesn't understand the controversy.

 

[Jut]

Did anyone get their GI mag in the mail yet? I still haven't...can't wait for this article.

 

[DieH@rd]

Game Informer hub updated with a 15 minute interview with Yoji Shinkawa [art director for the MGS and ZOE games]

Great interview.