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George Lucas Making Changes to Star Wars Saga... Again

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Glass Joe

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mrklaw said:
really? We see the same actor just a short while earlier when Vader is unmasked. Yes he's disfigured but I think its pretty recognisable as the same guy. And then there is the whole 'we've seen obi-wan as a ghost before, yoda disappeared when he died so he's a ghost now, that other guy is probably Anakin'

it all joins up perfectly well. Only Lucas seems to think you need to telegraph and join up things to be so simplistically explained as to basically insult everyone watching.

every fucking character is literally connected to everyone else up there on screen (very annoying in the prequel trilogy). Completely unnecessary, we can fill in blanks just fine.
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I agree and think the scene is fine the way it was. Should I have specified that when I first saw it, I was referring to when I was probably 6 or 7-years old? As an adult, if I saw it for the first time, I'd have gotten it. I still might not recognize the ghost Anikin by his face, but I'd understand who he was by context.

I was just sayin' hey, maybe that's why George felt the need to tinker with it. Not that he SHOULD have. And of course, him doing so just confuses the matter further. I re-watched the end of the ORIGINAL last night and yeah, it seems clear enough.
 
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Dead Man

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Seda said:
That was added in the 1997 Special edition. That change I was fine with.
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That was when I fist started hating Lucas. That fucking beak is so stupid and unneeded. If they had made the tentacles more aggressive that would have been cool, but a damn beak?
 
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Snaku

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Medalion said:
Yes, yes he is.

He takes one of the most laughed at things from Episode 3,... and that's saying something, and doubles it ups in ROTJ
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It's like poetry, y'know they rhyme.
 
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Spotless Mind

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Dead Man said:
That was when I fist started hating Lucas. That fucking beak is so stupid and unneeded. If they had made the tentacles more aggressive that would have been cool, but a damn beak?
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The worst part is that the CGI doesn't mesh the slightest bit well with the original image.
 
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apana

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Dead Man said:
That was when I fist started hating Lucas. That fucking beak is so stupid and unneeded. If they had made the tentacles more aggressive that would have been cool, but a damn beak?
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This is one of those ideas that seems better in your head.

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Ether_Snake

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PhoncipleBone said:
I think the thing that bothers me the most about the changes is that there are so many other glaring mistakes and errors that would benefit from fixes, but he ignores them.
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It's like he only changes things that were a result of other people's work. He is re-claiming his toys.

Seriously the guy makes it look like he's always been stuck in his early teens.
 
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antonz

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dont worry guys he totally had the time to fix all the errors see. Nice Blue lightsaber. im surprised he had time to insert vaders voice fixing all the errors
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Sanjuro

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Aigis said:
The 2006 DVDs have the original theatrical cut on the second disc for each movie.
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Are they actually? I thought they were the mid-90s release prior to the special editions? Either way the quality is terrible.
 
Nizz

Nizz

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UrbanRats said:
http://i.min.us/iqSBGNUcPLs0L.jpg[IMG]
Newest edition.[/QUOTE]
Haha, that's great! :D

[QUOTE=antonz]dont worry guys he totally had the time to fix all the errors see. Nice Blue lightsaber. im surprised he had time to insert vaders voice fixing all the errors[/QUOTE]
Was this pic grabbed from the actual Blu-ray? If so, that's total fail. Adding out of place audio where it's not needed but still overlooking glaring effects that need work. SMH...
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Risette

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Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
Are they actually? I thought they were the mid-90s release prior to the special editions? Either way the quality is terrible.
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They're sourced from the Laserdisc transfer (not an LD rip, but the same transfer used) which was the non-edited theatrical version. Other than the title in the scroll for ANH afaik.

And the quality isn't good but it's still better than VHS :p Plus it doesn't degrade etc.
 
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Snaku

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Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
Are they actually? I thought they were the mid-90s release prior to the special editions? Either way the quality is terrible.
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Better than those VHS tapes I'd imagine.
 
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antonz

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purple cobra said:
Haha, that's great! :D


Was this pic grabbed from the actual Blu-ray? If so, that's total fail. Adding out of place audio where it's not needed but still overlooking glaring effects that need work. SMH...
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That is from the leak yeah. a few sites have been tearing them apart. A New Hope still has basically every single lightsaber flaw in tact. At points the blades basically disappear in the duel between Obi Wan and vader, Colors are wrong etc.

They bullshitted back in 2010 that they had been working on these for a few years already by that point. Its obvious they didnt do shit
 
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BattleMonkey

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Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
Are they actually? I thought they were the mid-90s release prior to the special editions? Either way the quality is terrible.
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The quality is far better than VHS, and the mid nineties version was uncut, but just had a digital remastering that fixed a couple flaws. The best last uncut release.
 
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Sanjuro

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Snaku said:
Better than those VHS tapes I'd imagine.
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There were a couple laserdisc transfers. I'm not foolish enough to think VHS is better quality, I'm talking about a release with the least amount of changes to the product.
 
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Sanjuro

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Dead Man said:
I'm glad I have the 1995 VHS box set. I just need a way to transfer the VHS to digital :(

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That is the set I'm referring to. They made changes to this one as well. Sound effects and some dialog from the original releases I have seen.
 
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Dead Man

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Gary Whitta said:
Ah, that's what I used to have too.
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From the back of the box:
George Lucas said:
The appeal of Star Wars has gone beyond anything I could ever have imagined. I am pleased that for the final video release of Star Wars in its original version, we can present it with the best sound and picture quality yet available, thanks to THX digital mastering.

In the years to come I hope you, your children, and your children's children will enjoy not only this trilogy but also the adventures yet to come in the continually unfolding Star Wars universe.
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FUCK YOU GEORGE.
 
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womp

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Those 2006 DVD's of the originals untarnished are also *not* anamorphic if I am not mistaken. One of the reasons I haven't snagged them, regardless of their source.
 
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Rabid Wolverine

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Dead Man said:
I'm glad I have the 1995 VHS box set. I just need a way to transfer the VHS to digital :(

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Drools.

Went sifting through my collection of DVDs and VHS. DVD Special Edition:(

VHS the 2000 version with updated effects minus the Tainted Ending for ROTJ. Guess should be happy with that.
 
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womp

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Never forget....

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Back when (Circa 1992ish), this is what introduced me to 'widecreen' movies. Amazing box set and the best way to watch these movies, just not the best media to do it with. :/

At the time Suncoast had a separate small half a wall section of VHS movies called 'Letterbox'.
 
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PhoncipleBone

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Dead Man said:
I'm glad I have the 1995 VHS box set. I just need a way to transfer the VHS to digital :(

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I had this one. It was all I wanted for Christmas back in the early 90s. I need to find this boxset. It is in storage somewhere.

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EDIT: Shit. Beaten as I searched for images.
 
Nizz

Nizz

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antonz said:
That is from the leak yeah. a few sites have been tearing them apart. A New Hope still has basically every single lightsaber flaw in tact. At points the blades basically disappear in the duel between Obi Wan and vader, Colors are wrong etc.

They bullshitted back in 2010 that they had been working on these for a few years already by that point. Its obvious they didnt do shit
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Wow. Unbelievable...
 
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Dead Man

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womp said:
Never forget....

http://i.imgur.com/r7e5D.jpg[IMG]

Back when (Circa 1992ish), this is what introduced me to 'widecreen' movies. Amazing box set and the best way to watch these movies, just not the best media to do it with. :/

At the time Suncoast had a separate small half a wall section of VHS movies called 'Letterbox'.
[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PhoncipleBone]I had this one. It was all I wanted for Christmas back in the early 90s. I need to find this boxset. It is in storage somewhere.

[img]http://wjhent.com/Images/Store/rh051611b/P1010018.JPG[img]

[IMG]http://wjhent.com/Images/Store/rh051611b/P1010019.JPG[IMG]

EDIT: Shit. Beaten as I searched for images.[/QUOTE]
Damn that looks nice.
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womp

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PhoncipleBone said:
I had this one. It was all I wanted for Christmas back in the early 90s. I need to find this boxset. It is in storage somewhere.



EDIT: Shit. Beaten as I searched for images.
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It was a Christmas present for me. $125 retail at the time. Crazy. heh
 
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PhoncipleBone

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womp said:
It was a Christmas present for me. $125 retail at the time. Crazy. heh
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Same. I had no idea what letterbox meant at the time since I was only 12 or so. But once I started watching the set I started seeing tons of stuff that I had never seen on any other version (the good ole CBS Fox pan and scan versions). From that point on, I made it a point to find letterbox films. Paying attention to the shape of tvs and screens at the theater, I was able to figure out what was being chopped. It was hard to find out info like that in the pre internet days.
 
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linkboy

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ryutaro's mama said:
I still have all my SW VHS releases.

Do they even make VCRs anymore?

I haven't owned one in YEARS...
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You can still find DVD\VHS combo units. I think they're about $70-$100.
 
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