He did like 17 games this year.
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He did like 17 games this year.
SteveWinwood
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He is by far the least experienced of all of the five. Basically picked it up last week.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Well they're clearly losing this one because Bounty went Battlefury 
And their lanes weren't very good.
And their lanes weren't very good.
Felix Lighter
Member
How many heros are there? It seems like you need to be familiar with each to really engage them well.
About a hundred and nearly as many items as well.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Also interesting to see no stacking/pulling the jungle for lane control (on either side), but I didn't really start doing that myself until I was 50+ hours (maybe more) in. It is a more advanced/coordinated tactic though.
98 of the 110 heroes are playable right now.
Like someone else said, around 100. Knowing the abilities your enemies have is extremely useful. For example, something like a BKB blocks most magical abilities, so it's good to get against a stun-heavy team. But there are a handful of stuns that go through the immunity. Knowing when it's worth buying an item depends heavily sometimes on how well you know the heroes you're up against. A BKB isn't great damage, or health, so if you aren't blocking enough for the magic immunity to be worth it, there are better items you could buy.
Buying an expensive item like that, that isn't as helpful as you thought it was can stunt you for the entire game.
SteveWinwood
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Sort of. Play really well? Yes you need voice chat. You can get by though sort of in public games.
That's what happens when you play with friends. When it's randoms it's terrible yelling and bitching.
CarbonatedFalcon
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No. There's a chat wheel for commonly used and important callouts (keybind and then drag your mouse to an edge). That's relatively new and pretty useful. Just regular typing and that will suffice, though voice chat certainly makes things easier and is necessary for higher levels of play. I rarely use my mic when just playing with randoms though unless they're already talking and fairly jovial as I don't particularly like using voice communication with strangers if I don't have to.
Brawndo Addict
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I thought everyone on the GB side was basically going to be around Brad's approximate skill level, so I was worried about experienced and well organized fans rolling over them. So in that first game I was annoyed with the opposing team's picks, thinking it was a Cyborgmatt organized group when it wasn't. The GB team was actually more experienced overall, or perhaps just better organized given their LAN setup.
They're all playing pretty well overall, and Brad is just playing extra conservatively because he's new and doesn't want to make any big mistakes by getting himself killed.
Technosteve
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some one needs to teach brad the yolo build for tidehunter, bottle first is the only way to go.
The game does have bot play.
I may give that a try then. Does it have decent matchmaking so that if I played I would get matched up against players close to my skill or not?
The Coop vs. bots community isn't nearly as bad. You never lose, so the only thing anyone has to rage about is kill steals.
hearsaybear
Member
He's about as good as it gets for a games journalist. What more do you people want.
Yea the MM is decent but matching up 10 players is never perfect and you might get extremes. Plus there is a rubber band element to it where you would get continuously match up with bad or good players in a row.
RiccochetJ
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They have to be an expert on every single game they play. Clearly.
No one ever said anything like that. In the case of Dota, it's the second most popular game in one of the most played genres in the world and 95% of the staff lack even a basic understanding of it.
Pinko Marx
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The community really isn't even that bad. And you can report players that are abusive.
You can't really say "it isn't even that bad" because how bad it is depends on the individual. If you're a zen master then yeah, it's isn't that bad, I agree.
Personally I am more worried about saddling other players with my inability to play well.
You will and people will shout at you. It's just a hump that everyone has to get over. Playing with friends or people you know alleviates this hump ALOT, since they won't be as salty about your bad play as playing with random people.
hearsaybear
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It's an incredibly insular culture that a handful of gaming press are attempting to get into (Brad included). There will never be expert dota players in the gaming press, just as there are not expert fighting game players. Why can't people just be happy with what they get. Considering how young the style of game is when compared to fighting games as a whole I think things are moving about as fast as they realistically could (in terms of having press get more involved in the game itself).
And considering giantbomb's usual treatment of games, especially on live shows like this, I thought even Jeff showed a genuine interest in at least learning more.
Spirit of Jazz
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Don't ever feel this way. In early levels you'll come up against a lot of smurf accounts which are more experienced players who've created second accounts to play with low levels players. These are the only people that should get mad at you in low level and they shouldn't even be there so don't threat about it. Just be open with your team about yourself being new and more often than not they'll help you out, suggesting heroes for you to play in that match and advising you on what skills to level/items you should buy.
Ultimately when you start out everybody should be pretty bad at the game, so don't worry about how you're doing. Also take into account that kill/death ratio doesn't mean much in the game due to the hero and the role you could end up taking. For example a Shadow Shaman could end up with a terrible kill/death/assist ratio but if your ult has been pushing down towers you might have been the one who won the match for your team.
Yeah it's too bad the guy there explaining things to Jeff and Patrick didn't go into detail and weave the yarn of crazy Dota heroes. When asked about Invoker all he said was that he was a wizard with some spell combos; huge understatement!
you will literally get matched up with other noobs. dont even worry about it.
maybe one guy in a group of ten players will be a fucking dick
but everyone else will basically be having fun and goofing off.
I'm not saying they have to be good at it, I just think it's crazy that before this week, no one even knew the most simple parts of the game. It isn't that new of a genre, there was just a total lack of interest and effort. I am glad someone is getting around to it now though.
Felix Lighter
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One thing's for sure, Dota 2 is fucking gorgeous. I would kill for an action RPG with that art style.
Welcome to Giant Bomb.
Empty Space
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I have hopes that Valve will one day decide to make one using the dota assets. They even have all the loot made for them through the workshop.
thanks for watching. I was running the spectator mode and definitely missed some kills (especially second game early on).
I admit I didn't say as much as I could've, but Brad and team were sitting right next to me. It's a bit hard to call items, ganks, and rosh's when it'll tell the other team what's going on. Either way it was a fun experience (talking and clicking is hard!). I think Dota 2 will probably be around the GB team for a bit.
Fun time, thanks for tuning in!
I admit I didn't say as much as I could've, but Brad and team were sitting right next to me. It's a bit hard to call items, ganks, and rosh's when it'll tell the other team what's going on. Either way it was a fun experience (talking and clicking is hard!). I think Dota 2 will probably be around the GB team for a bit.
Fun time, thanks for tuning in!
SteveWinwood
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Really cool that the Giant Bomb crew is giving more attention to my favorite game. Couldn't watch the stream for too long though, because the lack of experience is a little jarring for me to watch (I've played way too much Dota 2). But for people who haven't been exposed to much Dota 2 I think what they're doing is great.
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