It works really well with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, or Snipperclips, so not, it's not limited for the games that are suited for them (aka most games you'll play locally).
There it is. We've gone full circle now, as always.
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Here are some issues I have with the Switch launch for us to politely discuss
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It works really well with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, or Snipperclips, so not, it's not limited for the games that are suited for them (aka most games you'll play locally).
There it is. We've gone full circle now, as always.
King Gilga
Member
Failed is too strong word, they've definitely stumbled a bit though.
The Nintendo defense force sure are bringing out their best and brightest.
The Nintendo defense force sure are bringing out their best and brightest.
RichiRamjag
Member
I personally love the thing. The OS is barebones and I want cloud storage asap, but I'm excited for the future as it stands. Currently, I'm having a blast with it and my family has loved it too.
My only big issue is that my left joycon had that issue. I was in kind of a weird position and it's not occurred more than a couple of times. My neon set has been flawless. Some better games pricing would have helped in regards to stuff like bomberman and 1,2 switch.
I'm not a fanboy of anything as I don't develop such ties to corporations, but when you have one extreme, you're bound to see the other arise. The Nintendo hate has been crazy ridiculous on this board for the past couple of months. It's no wonder, the opposing side is getting looney.
My only big issue is that my left joycon had that issue. I was in kind of a weird position and it's not occurred more than a couple of times. My neon set has been flawless. Some better games pricing would have helped in regards to stuff like bomberman and 1,2 switch.
I'm not a fanboy of anything as I don't develop such ties to corporations, but when you have one extreme, you're bound to see the other arise. The Nintendo hate has been crazy ridiculous on this board for the past couple of months. It's no wonder, the opposing side is getting looney.
Drillary Clinton
Banned
I mean I don't own a Switch, bud. These are valid criticisms but we already got nearly this exact same thread.
ProgenitorCastle
Banned
The Horror the horror
Banned
Nintendo will fix all these issues.
Their future hinges on it.
This isn't Sony and the Vita.
Their future hinges on it.
This isn't Sony and the Vita.
When the Wii was the last hit within the past 10 years, you've got to get rid of the driftwood.
Saint Gregory
Member
Feels almost like a Beta ( or even an Alpha really) console but I still have to say that it feels great and I'm enjoying the three games (Zelda, FAST and Shovel Knight) I bought. There's definitely a lot of work to do and the launch could have been better but I don't regret my purchase.
Vampirolol
Member
They fucked up many things, yet the system feels so good. Once I tried it I loved it instantly.
Yep, because they absolutely didn't sell another console for around 60 millions units. Nope. Doomed.
StereoVsn
Member
Well, it came out several years after the WiiU so yes, it needs to get over that low bar.
Overall I feel the OP is not particularly unfair. All the listed problems exist and especially left joycon and the save system are problematic, IMO. The first since it could be a permanently unfoxable hardware issue and the latter because it's bullshit to disallow save copies/backups:transfers on a handheld device that can easily be broken or stolen.
On a personal level I hate the weak WiFi signal on 2.4ghz band and lack of the Bluetooth headphone support.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Only time will tell if they failed, but this has been a pretty tepid launch. Zelda is definitely a highlight, but it doesn't wash away what is other wise a poor launch line up, expensive yet clearly rushed hardware with massive oversights and a barebones OS. Now, yes, this is a launch unit, but you have to wonder what Nintendo has been doing all this time, considering how weak the Wii U release schedule has been over the past year or two and the fact that they've had years to get OS and Services right, and in some ways have regressed compared to the Wii U.
Some will dismiss it as fine, because Zelda, but a lot of these mistakes are mistakes that Nintendo should not be making coming off the back of their biggest flagship flop to date.
Some will dismiss it as fine, because Zelda, but a lot of these mistakes are mistakes that Nintendo should not be making coming off the back of their biggest flagship flop to date.
Coming off the massive flop that was the Wii U, you would think they would've done a better job at convincing people that all those issues (3rd party support mainly) were resolved before launch date.
Lmao this is so right
Drillary Clinton
Banned
Idk Nintendo seems to be pretty inept with anything that isn't the quality of their first-party titles. It and the smash hit the Wii itself was has been keeping them afloat since after the SNES. Seems like the chickens have come home to roost and Nintendo put themselves in a very tough situation where they were forced to rush release of a last effort console or release it and likely get killed in the fall by Scorpio and whatever Sony does with the Slim and Pro bundles/drops. I hope that isn't the case, honestly, because I'd love to see Nintendo catch up and be a successful company.
Mariah Carey
Member
I can't tell you how much that pisses me off. Like that's "I will never buy a Nintendo product ever again" territory right there. Fucking BASTARDS.
Tarextherex
Banned
You can do that on a Wii U
OP is right tbh, Switch is basically a PS4 situation where they have great marketing and overall mindshare but the product itself has pretty terrible value compared to its predecessors.
Captain_Wreckus
Member
Bingo
LordRaptor
Member
I'm not going to tell you how to spend your money, but a wiiu isn't that much cheaper but is definitely not getting anything else in the future
I'm not saying that 60 million units is good or bad but look at the ecosystems... absolutely no integration or path forward.
LiquidColor
Member
I love this
Space Medafighter X
Member
Love my switch, but I do wish for streetpass to come back 
LordOcidax
Member
100% accurate.
Err... I played the hell out of MK8 on Wii U. There's no way that playing it with one of the Joy Cons would be an ideal experience. They disappear in my hands just holding them one handed, the buttons are tiny, and the ergonomics are awful when turning them sideways -- especially the one that puts the stick right next to the buttons. If using a Wiimote turned sideways to play MK on Wii sucked, using a single Joy Con to play MK sounds like hell.
Lack of Dpad is my biggest issue. I was planning on getting a Pro Controller either way but I prefer playing in handheld mode, so it sucks that there has to be such a big compromise as someone who won't be playing much local multiplayer with people who also won't have Switches of their own. Even if Nintendo just announced a Joycon "classic" was coming I'd feel better about it.
I don't have a WiiU. So, it was down to "Buy a WiiU and Zelda" or "Buy a Switch and Zelda". Not much advanced decision-making needed there.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
They'll probably be good, what I think is far more important is how the sales for the thing go in the upcoming months.
LordOcidax
Member
Is going to be a bad thing, no matter what.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
All of those issues are why I passed on the Switch, for now. Hopefully they redress a lot of that stuff at E3 and make a Switch worth $300.
It's already confirmed and that it fixed the frame pacing issue from the WiiU version.
I wonder what the people so happy to remind everyone that they don't want to buy a Switch thought about the "fantastic" launch of the WiiU or the 3DS.
Heck even the DS.
I like the past tense of the OT like we already know that the Nintendo is closing up shop or something.
If you played MK8, you probably had access to a wiimote.
Put that sucker sideways and you'll have a worse experience than Joycons provide.
And of course it's not mandatory, you have options.
Like seriously the joycons are basically like a weird shaped SNES controller with a stick instead of a dpad.
It's ideal for stuffs like snipperclips, less so for more complex games but I'm not teaching you anything here.
Heck even the DS.
I like the past tense of the OT like we already know that the Nintendo is closing up shop or something.
If you played MK8, you probably had access to a wiimote.
Put that sucker sideways and you'll have a worse experience than Joycons provide.
And of course it's not mandatory, you have options.
Like seriously the joycons are basically like a weird shaped SNES controller with a stick instead of a dpad.
It's ideal for stuffs like snipperclips, less so for more complex games but I'm not teaching you anything here.
Because selling less than half than its predecessor is a resounding success.
I own a Switch and I'm loving Zelda but the OP is 100% correct about the problems with the system itself. You don't have to blindly defend Nintendo's many bad decisions and the problems with the Switch just because Zelda is good.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
The way some of you are downplaying the perfectly valid issues in the OP is mindboggling. If it were any other console, you'd be the first with your pitchforks out. As I said in my post not to long ago, these aren't the sorts of stupid oversights a company coming off of the Wii U should be making. Just because you're enjoying the system, doesn't make any of it less true.
I feel like a Joy-Con with a d-pad is given once the Virtual Console is announced. Hopefully sometime this summer.
Well, I actually played MK8DX several times with one joycon (with the strap) and it's a perfectly viable way to play it. Since it isn't a particularly complex game, you don't need to be that reactive on the input and it's well suited for that. I mean, I didn't have any problem while I played it and I don't think I would have any with the full game.
Joy-cons are actually nicer to hold than wiimote, due do them being more suited for your hands (unlike Wiimote, which was a core to reach the B or A button while you were holding it sideways). It feels more natural. Now, I know that the obvious better way is the pro controller, like for most games, but joycons allow to have two controllers right out of the box and both are perfectly enjoyable way to play simple games locally.
Yes, it sold less than the predecessor, it must be a total failure then. Doomed ! I guess Sony was doomed too when the PS3 barely sold half of its predecessor. I wonder why they're still here then...
facetheslayer92
Member
I feel like US sales for the Wii U were reported on the Monday after their Friday launch. The 425k number. We'll see I guess.
Jaguar Victory
Member
Doesn't make sense. It's more like Toyota releasing a car without power windows and without a cup holder while people yell at the guy for pointing it out because "fuck you man, look at me drive!"
I feel like the things that are not there can and probably will be remedied eventually.
And the stuff that IS there, if it wasn't, would probably never be fixed.
For example: The system is fast. Waking up from sleep mode, jumping between games, the e-shop, it's all good. This is not the Wii U situation.
And the stuff that IS there, if it wasn't, would probably never be fixed.
For example: The system is fast. Waking up from sleep mode, jumping between games, the e-shop, it's all good. This is not the Wii U situation.
Jubenhimer
Member
Look, he's not wrong with his criticisms. The problem is that OP is making them out to be far worse than they actually are. For example, the Joy-Con being $80. Yeah, that sounds pricey, until you actually see what you're getting for your $80. You're getting 2 self-contained controllers for multiplayer out of the box (which many people have said are actually more comfortable than they look) complete with HD Rumble, Motion Controls, NFC Reader/Writer, and IR Camera, all for $20 less than buying the two separately.
Most of the other problems with the Switch can easily be fixed in software updates, and price cuts. Yes things are flawed now, but it has more room to grow than the Wii U ever did.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
People need to realize that the faster issues like this get brought to attention and caught by X company, the faster they can get it fixed and out of everyone's misery.
The more issues that don't get caught that people have to try to live and put up with, the more it eventually hardens their hearts and sours their minds in the long run towards X company.
So by trying to cover issues up, they aren't doing their beloved company any service.
Also, OP you've missed a few issues,
Like the scratches that people are getting while docking,
Original thread with others reporting the same with picshttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1349599
Protection thread that was spawned from it with various ideas on how to protect from scratches for the time being. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1349755
Also, the screen quality apparently differs kind of like the 3Ds did.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=231460640#post231460640