ProgenitorCastle
Banned
Congratulations for PlatinumGames and Taro for their successful collaboration and for Kamiya being humble enough to admit that Taro greatly helped out PG!
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Hideki Kamiya: "to say that Yoko-san saved Platinum would not be an exaggeration."
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Sword Of Doom
Member
I think it's both and imo platinum didn't really deliver the kind of gameplay I was expecting. what carries the game is everything else
NESpowerhouse
Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.
The power of booty.
Magic Mushroom
Member
No, but well enough I think.
Edit: less than 100k on Steamspy. Perhaps just Nier and Bayo then.
I don't particularly care for story.
On it's own the success this has created is a good thing. But I'm concerned this is an omen of a shift.
It was more than fanart!
I don't understand, this implies that there is an illegit way. That can't be right.
Of what lol
James Scott
Banned
They supported PS360 and underperformed.
Because of that they couldn't really say no to major publishers wanting to give them money.
SEGA wasnt going to do a Bayo 2 so Nintendo stepped in.
By the time PS4 came out and was a success they basically just had Bayo 2 in the works for Wii U.
Wonderful 101 came out 3 months before PS4 launched and was greenlight before Wii U Wii U'd. Scalebound was announced before Xbox Xbox'd itself.
Can't really fault the studio
So your post is pretty much nonsense
cyborgnumberblue
Member
Well yeah, I'm glad that their success with Nier should mean that they will not be forced to produce shit for money.
They can spend their time on other new IPs to sell then or go the Metal Gear Rising route and inherit a well liked IP and put their spin on it. Kamiya wanted a sequel to Bayonetta 2 and was going to followup a game he was passionate about. They didn't have to make a Bayonetta 2.
Platinumes combat didn't make Bayonetta and their other games a huge sellers.
Platinum have been associated with bomba for a long time and that's why both Nier and Scalebound(rip) were expected to flop by many.
He should update us on his zip file of 2B pics.
Yearsoflurking
Member
They need to start bring more consisten with good games, i know nier is a great success now but lately they have churned and taken on out a lot of b tier games. Then again you have to take whatever project and budget you can get i guess.
It was more than fanart!
Lol this reminds me of a friend I had who (rudely) asked me what the big deal was with Nier: Automata (this was the time during the announcement was made, so they didn't show 2B's design yet).
Then, 2B's design came out and so did the fan art. His whole FB page is just filled with 2B cosplays now lol. So yeah, definitely the fan art.
It is possible to buy the game's trophies/achievements with in game currency once you've beaten it.
They can only make new IPs when someone pays them to do it. Nintendo paid them to make Bayonetta 2, they had to make it, likely because there were no better offers on the table. I'll drop the subject now as you clearly know what's up!
bobbychalkers
Member
That has nothing to do with it. They get paid regardless of how their games fair out on release and they don't choose the Platforms themselves. They just had a massive amount of their people's work dry up overnight after Scalebound was cancelled, which was their biggest game. I doubt that they would ever directly work with Microsoft again but if a 3rd party wanted a Xbox version of a game they are publishing, it would get done. As for Nintendo, their 5 games on Wii U kept them paid and busy, that relationship is strong. It's not neglect, it's on Sony or some other 3rd party to contract a game from them.
Sorcerer Supreme
Member
i have to wonder what they'll do next aside from that gran blue game.
GarciaHotspur
Member
Yoko Taro is the new Miyazaki
Another game from SE I'm sure.
I'm not talking about sales, I'm referring to the people that thought it'd get a poor score.
Touche lol
I know, I was being sarcastic, as I don't see that as not being legit.
SolidSnakex
Member
I really don't even know where you'd begin in trying to figure out why Automata has done so well. Nier of course wasn't a hit by any means, neither critically or commercially. And while Platinum are a critical darling, their games in general don't do all that well. So how in the world would combining those things turn into a success? The fact that it's a great game isn't a surprise, but the success definitely is.
SinCityAssassin
Member
The saving throw that got them over the chasm left by Microsoft.
killatopak
Gold Member
thanks yoko.
Nothing1016
Member
Hideki Kamiya said:
Lol Kamiya with the honest truth about Platinum. Or I'm misunderstanding it.
Plague Doctor
Member
Nier putting in the work!
Scalebound... what could have been.
Scalebound... what could have been.
You know which one it is
It's never looked great tbh.
Byronic Hero
Member
Plot twist!
Good for them though, hopefully this means that they'll collaborate again.
It didn't look good in my opinion. I was really hyped when it was first announced, then we saw gameplay and my excitement went away. But this is simply derailing the thread, what's great is knowing that Platinum will keep on developing amazing games.
Google translate
It's my pleasure really care now. Support to Platinum, thanks to work both spiritually and it really helped me. Able to make a game together, are honored. Thank you very much.
The gist of the answer is clear imho.
One more reason to change that, no?
No one cared about Platinum titles prior either
It's possibly the best selling PlatinumGame ever made with nearly 2 Million copies sold.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
I'm so glad they finally got a hit, they truly deserved it. I'm hoping the Granblue game ends up being successful for them as well.
Someone can do a better translation, but basically he's saying it was his pleasure, he was honored to work with them, that it helped him as well, so he wants to thank them as well.
I recall reading an article that if they decide to do so, they want the same team. Or at least, the 5 most prominent people or so regarding putting Automata together.
So Nintendo is hurting Platinum by giving them work to do? Why don't Sony fund a game for Platinum then?
The first part is basically him expressing he feels the same way towards Platinum and thanking all of them. The second part I don't know because I can't read most kanji
While it would be great to have Bayonetta 2 on other consoles (lol I didn't think I'd say that again after all this time and that ridiculous thread from years ago), Nintendo was the only one willing to foot the bill and make that game a reality, which is great as we would have ended up with no game otherwise. Sony should have stepped in if they wanted it, but they didn't.
James Scott
Banned
Nier is structured and is the scale of a KH game. I think they can probably do a spin off pretty well. I'd love for them to make TWEWY 2 since no one else is going to
lol you are imply people gave a damn about Platnum after a heap of shit games and a cancelled one.
killatopak
Gold Member
to say that Platinum saved Yoko-san's IP would not be an overstatement as well.
I feel that they mutually benifeted each other. Yoko having his name reach mainstream and Platinum having a success after such a long time.
I feel that they mutually benifeted each other. Yoko having his name reach mainstream and Platinum having a success after such a long time.
Leona Lewis
Banned
Yes, perfectly explains the smashing success of all of Platinum's other titles.
I'm glad to hear this. As for the explanation behind the success of the game, it's really about the sum of its parts but clearly Yoko Taro's involvement cannot be downplayed here. He's the reason why the story and the themes of Nier Automata were simultaneously kind of weird yet powerful enough to resonate so much. Needless to say, the gameplay not being a turn off allowed people to give the story a chance and Platinum definitely did its job right in an area that has historically been one of Yoko Taro's weak points.
Would the game be saved by, say, 2B alone if the story sucked and the gameplay was poorly received? No, it'd just be another bad game with a cool/sexy character design that gets a lot more fan art than actual sales. The way things have turned out, the character's appeal is effectively enhancing and supplementing the rest of a solid production, rather than being the only salvageable part.
Would the game be saved by, say, 2B alone if the story sucked and the gameplay was poorly received? No, it'd just be another bad game with a cool/sexy character design that gets a lot more fan art than actual sales. The way things have turned out, the character's appeal is effectively enhancing and supplementing the rest of a solid production, rather than being the only salvageable part.
TheMrPliskin
Member
I'm really happy that Nier: Automata ended up doing so well for both parties. Hopefully they'll work together and see similar success in the future.
Quality of the game has very little to do with Platinum's success because if it was they wouldn't be in the position they were in the first place.
They needed SEs publishing/marketing chops and Yoko's direction as much they needed their own game making expertise. But without the first two, the third would be worth absolutely nothing.
Shin
Banned
Yeah they also seem to have had a lot of fun with that project, though somewhat scripted videos.