Ghost Slayer
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Horizon Zero Dawn - Aloy's Journey Trailer, delayed to February 28th, 2017
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John Wick
Member
I don't know why people have a problem with people questioning if that indeed is Neo footage???
Why you ask???
Because game companies have a history of showing footage that was never representative of the final game. And With Sony working on Neo it begs the question?
If it is PS4 then that's amazing for real ingame footage. If it's just cutscenes amd replay footage then it's more than likely PS4
anexanhume
Member
You're right, a longer explanation is probably in Order...
speaking seriously, this is the Sony I'm most excited about right behind TLG
I need a return to form. Bring back the lobby system and game modes from KZ1. I gotta buy the HD version just to play it again with Bots. I miss Supply Drop so much.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
gundamkyoukai
Member
Sony has not done that in a long time .
Truth is if this is the neo version i expected it to look even better in the upcoming months.
TheRealTalker
Banned
Remember when GG Cambridge got the KZ engine to run on Vita?
Remember that?
Remember when KZ SF showed that alpha game-play and everyone didn't think it could improve before its release
Cambrige and GG are both tweaking and typing away at this game so I can see this running well on the regular PS4.
Remember that?
Remember when KZ SF showed that alpha game-play and everyone didn't think it could improve before its release
Cambrige and GG are both tweaking and typing away at this game so I can see this running well on the regular PS4.
Watched it again and I definitely think I was a little too harsh on the trailer because of the mediocre writing. I guess I was just expecting something a little more interesting in terms of story and set up, but you know what..... the game still looks fucking incredible. If the gameplay takes the forefront, and we're left to explore and hunt in this cool ass world by our own devices, I think this will be a great game.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
And Fallout 4...
KinofChaos
Banned
huh? Open world is all the rage.....doesn't need MP.
Says TheXbox. The Witcher has some bad Voice work and dialogue at times but the game is amazing.
TheRealTalker
Banned
well if it has a ton of hours and lots of side quests to keep one engaged then I don't see a problem
and they have a CDProjekt Red quest guy running around there now so hear is hoping
QuickSilverD
Member
that showcase nothing but combat, this is supposed to be an RPG
KinofChaos
Banned
RPG's don't showcase the Dialogue trees in reveals lol. Not ME, not the witcher, Combat is a huge part of RPG's. Game is not out until 2017...lots of time for story info and other aspects.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
??? Lol o boy. Developers truly can not win
TheRealTalker
Banned
does someone have that GAF link for the post listing all the new people working on this game from other studios?
StrongBlackVine
Banned
It will be an RPG that just happens to have combat that isn't dog shit! People will be confused at first.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
It doesn't. The Witcher 3, Skyrim and Fallout 4 had no multiplayer and sold great. An RPG with dozens of hours of gameplay doesn't need a tacked on MP mode.
So the perfect game then
KinofChaos
Banned
It doesn't.....where you been?
bigboss370
Member
some things I noticed.
They completely redesigned Aloy's adoptive father/caretaker:
original:
new:
Now, it may be two different characters but I'm betting it's not given the pattern of his face painting remains the same. The intent I imagine is to make him look significantly younger. Personally, I prefer the original design but maybe the story and lore demand Aloy's guardian be a younger character.
They also seem to have removed Aloy's white/blonde streaks on her hair at the top:
Again I think the intent was to make her look younger here, although I think this difference doesn't really change any sort of perceptions like that. Didn't think she looked older to begin with. Of course I could be wrong and it's just a purely cosmetic change. What I like about Aloy's character design is that she can look young, naive, and joyful but other times can look serious, confident, and powerful.
Another thing I noticed:
In the reveal trailer, these cave paintings are found in, well, a cave. Notice the character is not Aloy (different hair and clothing). It could be her mother, or an unimportant character. The scene could have been just to set the lore, like the view of the vast city we got pre-apocalypse.
The exact same cave painting is featured in the new trailer though, except now etched on the side of an ancient crumbled building. And it's found by Aloy.
I'm thinking maybe these paintings are found in different locations throughout the game and tell a story. Like collectible diaries in other games but a bit more unique. Maybe they're tied to Aloy's mother, who goes on a journey based on what she sees in them. Or they are there to show the history of the land. Either way, it would be cool to have something like that woven into the main story or as optional side quests.
They completely redesigned Aloy's adoptive father/caretaker:
original:
new:
Now, it may be two different characters but I'm betting it's not given the pattern of his face painting remains the same. The intent I imagine is to make him look significantly younger. Personally, I prefer the original design but maybe the story and lore demand Aloy's guardian be a younger character.
They also seem to have removed Aloy's white/blonde streaks on her hair at the top:
Again I think the intent was to make her look younger here, although I think this difference doesn't really change any sort of perceptions like that. Didn't think she looked older to begin with. Of course I could be wrong and it's just a purely cosmetic change. What I like about Aloy's character design is that she can look young, naive, and joyful but other times can look serious, confident, and powerful.
Another thing I noticed:
In the reveal trailer, these cave paintings are found in, well, a cave. Notice the character is not Aloy (different hair and clothing). It could be her mother, or an unimportant character. The scene could have been just to set the lore, like the view of the vast city we got pre-apocalypse.
The exact same cave painting is featured in the new trailer though, except now etched on the side of an ancient crumbled building. And it's found by Aloy.
I'm thinking maybe these paintings are found in different locations throughout the game and tell a story. Like collectible diaries in other games but a bit more unique. Maybe they're tied to Aloy's mother, who goes on a journey based on what she sees in them. Or they are there to show the history of the land. Either way, it would be cool to have something like that woven into the main story or as optional side quests.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
He's talking to her as a child in that screenshot and as an adult in the original footage, so he's obviously older in the original footage. Aloy perhaps looks younger because she IS younger. I'm starting to think it might be similar to Fable in this respect.
bigboss370
Member
kept his youth
I personally don't think Aloy looks any younger than in the original reveal.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
The caretaker's monologue is incredibly boring.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
I want to know more about the RPG elements. I just remembered this game is supposed to be a rpg.
If you're talking about sales and The Order, generally value is the consumer issue and I'm assuming this is more like a 40 hour game than a 4 hour game.
That said, they already noted their biggest hurdle is that it's a new IP and it's really hard to nail both singleplayer and multiplayer as a new IP while not being a mega studio, so your odds with Horizon 2 aren't bad. You see this similarly with multiplayer only titles and SP campaigns this gen as well.
This is really the worst argument ever
Do I have to be a game designer to call a game bad?
Icyflamez96
Member
Game looks really cool, though I was a bit disappointed by the story bits. Found that aspect underwhelming for some reason.
Also, the main character sort of reminds me of Korra. Dunno if it's the voice or what.
Also, the main character sort of reminds me of Korra. Dunno if it's the voice or what.
Like I said before it sounds more Like Fallout 4 on the RPG said of things.
You have crafting,side missions,levels,skill trees and other stuff.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...rld-of-horizon-zero-dawn.aspx?PostPageIndex=2
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
No, man, seriously, I'm the first to pull anyone over about making leaps but the writing isn't great here, even the dialogue within the game. Aloy saying 'why am I an outcast?' is bad, just plain bad. And even though that voice over is written only for this trailer, it is likely from the same writers for the game (I hope it isn't). 'Crumbling ruins' is just plain amateurish and something ND would erase immediately. They are either 'ruins' which already suggests 'crumbling' or 'crumbling building' but never 'crumbling ruins'. It just shows a lack of writing knowledge. It really is one of the most basic rules of writing, up there with 'cascading waterfall'. There's nothing wrong with a modifier as long as it adds something. 'overgrown ruins' isn't perfect but it does add something.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Great, that's probably why it's currently #3 on Amazon. #1 is Persona 5 by the way.
Daredevil.shark
Banned
In last years E3 I also noticed a flying (hovering) balloon shaped like figures. Might be some sort of station or animal. Looks cool.
Primethius
Banned
All is right in the world.
Something about this game just isn't doing it for me. I'm not quite feeling the robotic dinosaurs against a natural backdrop or the design of the main character, or the writing & voice work. The gameplay could be good but the game seems meh to me. It's kind of got that cheesy Avatar feel.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Let's wait for context before we start calling the premise cheesy.
RespectThySole
Member
What? I can't think of a recent game with better dialogue than TW3 lol
I agree that the Horizon doesn't need multiplayer though and as long as the mechanics and quest design are solid, the writing and va won't be a huge deal.
I can already see the 'Aloy's father death scene' coming a mile off, lol.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Maybe, but that would be a plot mechanic, not really a narrative. Plot mechanics are necessary in all mediums that tell stories. They're short cuts to get you where you need to go. As long as they're not abused often they're an acceptable solution. A good example of this would be in TLOU when they're escaping the authority, exit from the back of a trailer and Joel gets knocked down. That scene is just a plot mechanic to tell us what we need to know immediately. I'm not going to be specific there to avoid spoilers so please don't elaborate on that scene
Baroquemantic
Member
My theory:
I don't think Aloy is a cyborg at all. I think she is a child of the old ones. Her parents are probably the creators of the AI/machines, or worked for the company that created them. They probably died saving her when the AI/machines went rogue, and put her into a machine to be cryogenically frozen. Her parents being involved in all this is most likely why that building's scanner was able to confirm her identity.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I don't think we need spoilers for theories.
I also noticed that machine recognised her. I'm convinced we get to play her as a young girl. That scene were she throws the blue ear piece to the floor and backs away suggests we'll be playing that when she finds it.
I didn't saw the difference in clouds ( they were volumetric before), i didn't saw the difference that main charachter has more polys, i didn't saw the difference that T-Rex has more polys. What's the problem?
It's pathetic theory from now on that every game that will have some graphical upgrade in next showcase, it's the Neo version. We saw a gameplay a year ago. Hey, it's on PS4. If there really is some minor graphical upgrade that i missed maybe, automatically it's the Neo version. That's bullshit, man.
Baroquemantic
Member
Well, I figured if I ended up being correct, it wouldn't hurt to spoiler tag it.I don't think we need spoilers for theories.
I also noticed that machine recognised her. I'm convinced we get to play her as a young girl. That scene were she throws the blue ear piece to the floor and backs away suggests we'll be playing that when she finds it.
It'd be awesome if there are some playable sequences as young Aloy
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Well, I figured if I ended up being correct, it wouldn't hurt to spoiler tag it.
It'd be awesome if there are some playable sequences as young Aloy
It's also possible that she's given it as a gift and wears it thinking nothing of it and then one day (that scene) it crackles into life and she hears a voice or a signal. Maybe Mother's voice?
Jawbreaker
Member
I think it's fair to note that it's lacking given how amazing everything else looks. (We're judging a trailer, not the proper game.) Having said that, you're right: The narration in these trailers shouldn't be indicative of the quality of writing in the game.
Forming such a definitive opinion (presented as "fact") based on 3 minute trailer? You bet...
Its not like I tell you not to say something negative about the trailer, or that you did not like what you saw. But coming to such definitive conclusion as to label it "bad", like its made by worthless people who have no idea what a stoty or script is, sounds at the very least arrogant as hell. Its only a 3 minute trailer, of a huge game, so maybe... just maybe, we should wait a bit instead of jumping the gun.