NullPointer
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Because its not just a patent filing - according to the article these techniques are in use.
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How Activision Uses Matchmaking Tricks to Sell In-Game Items
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Very poorly written article. Activision filed and received the patent, but the article makes it seem that Activision is using this system in its games. It may very well be, but the article doesnt offer any proof or cite any examples from games. All it does it say what the patent is for.
The article says the techniques are in use, but provides no evidence or any examples of it being used in Activision games.
The article says the techniques are in use, but provides no evidence or any examples of it being used in Activision games.
Oh I see. So that means that Destiny and CoD would be the games affected by this. Do you know if Destiny has noticeably powerful weapons that can be received via MTs?
MrTroubleMaker
Member
disgusting
Bright engrams in destiny 2 can definitely drop gear like weapons and armor. I wouldn't call the the best, I wouldn't call them worst. I haven't seen too many using them either though.
Destiny's mts are more cosmetic than anything right now. Much like Overwatch.
Don't worry. Its only a matter of time until they bring back retro games with tacked on multiplayer locked behind a monthly subscription.....And better yet they'll figure out a way to sell you unneeded hardware to play them.
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Oh wait a minute.
Bright engrams don't drop weapons. Only 1 armor set that isn't really any better than the normal ones.
My mistake, I read the article wrong and thought it was something that Activision hadnt done yet.
Mass Effect
Member
but guys, remember it's all optional
And how exactly would Rolling Stone be able access backend code? They'd have to ask an employee to leak that kind of information.
Yes and no. Bright engrams can be bought with real money and will sometimes drop powerful gear, but it's definitely tuned more for cosmetics.
The best guns as of now need to be acquired by playing the game normally.
And how exactly would Rolling Stone be able access backend code? They'd have to ask an employee to leak that kind of information.
Yes and no. Bright engrams can be bought with real money and will sometimes drop powerful gear, but it's definitely tuned more for cosmetics.
The best guns as of now need to be acquired by playing the game normally.
Daffy Duck
Member
Activision, you fucking cunts.
Coming from the fucks that offer 50% off their supply drops but only when you spend CoD points and not crypto keys none of this surprises me.
Coming from the fucks that offer 50% off their supply drops but only when you spend CoD points and not crypto keys none of this surprises me.
NullPointer
Member
No direct examples, but it states that Activision is using them.
Hrm maybe I got it from another package. It was definitely a power level 10 weapon in the same vein as that armor that drops.
Eitherway, like was posted, Deej just went on twitter and confirmed that Bungie doesn't use the tech. Which confirms it exists and that it is in use elsewhere.
Let's stop the doubting now.
But that doesn't mean it can't appear in Destiny 2
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This sounds pretty horrible, but frankly not surprising at all.
Hamster Plugin
Member
As Destiny doesn't have this, and Overwatch is entirely about cosmetics, this pretty much leaves Call of Duty as the only game that could have this. And the last three COD games have had some horrible microtransactions. It's why I refuse to buy COD WWII.
Daffy Duck
Member
Yeah it was obvious it was CoD that had this.
No weapons in Destiny 2 come from microtransactions, so that's not an issue at all.
There is an armor set that rarely drops from the Bright Engrams, but it's perks are no different than all the other armor sets, so it's strictly cosmetic.
So, no, nothing game-breaking comes from the mictotransactions.
SimpleCRIPPLE
Member
This is the sleaziest practice ive read in a while. Just in time for CoD WW2.
SoulUnison
Banned
We're all heavy hobbyist gamers, though - we know and probably have other games to play.
The people they're targeting probably fall into a sunk-cost paradigm where they just spent $60 bucks on a game and everybody's so far ahead of them that they feel they'll never catch up, so why not drop a few bucks to try to level the playing field and not make that original $60 feel like a waste?
Jason Frost
Member
*raise hands*
Oh wow, I never even thought of it that way. Guess this "everything was unlocks" bullshit that infected shooters at the end of last gen morphed into something far more insidious. That was one of the reasons I basically quit playing those types of games.
Daffy Duck
Member
So this is the reasoning behind the headquarters mode and ability to show everything off, theyve been tuning the system the last few years and WWII will be pushing the system massively.
Loot boxes definitely are exploitative, it's not even hidden mechanic. But still many people don't seem to realize it or they just accept it since they feel like exploiting players makes the game better by allowing funding of future updates.
Hamster Plugin
Member
The only way for this system to do so is to make sure you're paired with people with lots of rare items. Overwatch is entirely cosmetic, so it doesn't affect every player. I have left all my OW loot boxes unopened, just sitting there.
They are all designed to entice players... I don't know why anyone is surprised or appalled about them going to this much effort of, well, enticing players. This has probably been going on for a while (**) or are people just feeling duped now that the "blind fold" has been taken off?
** and by for a while I mean in one form or another. They want to push you towards this stuff, some games do it well enough if you don't buy it you don't notice it while others force it and hamper the game.
Mass Effect
Member
thank god emulators will always exist
plus the original systems themselves
Exactly. "I'll just play something else" works when you have a ton of options and buy 10, 15, 20 games a year.
But there are millions of people that *only* play CoD, so they don't care for the opportunity cost of spending that money to get another game. To them it's they play CoD and spend tons of time playing it every year, what does it hurt to drop a few extra dollars throughout the year on mictrostransactions and lootboxes?
Bright engrams only drop 1 armor set, the Optimacy set. It looks kinda cool, but you get it all at 10 power. It is by no means pay 2 win. I have 3 pieces of the set and have spent $0 on bright engrams.
Daffy Duck
Member
https://charlieintel.com/2017/10/17/additional-details-activisions-new-matchmaking-patent/
Even more details here....
Wow is all I can say
Even more details here....
Wow is all I can say
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
See now this is getting more specific, and pretty whack to boot.
CosmicRomancer
Member
For a massive multi-billionaire dollar company to employ such sly and rapacious tactics like this is... is... shocking?
But seriously this is worryingly invasive.
But seriously this is worryingly invasive.
Yeah that or it's apparent use of pay-to-win MTs.
nuclearaddict
Banned
That game took a turn for the worse. You should've been there back when it launched on PS3. One of my top multiplayer games of all time, it was INCREDIBLE.
but yeah, this is predatory. I'm the same way, I either gitgud or just stop. This preys on people who easily open their wallets. Sucks that we've come this far, but I'm not surprised. This is just the tip of the iceberg.