BreezyLimbo
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Shiiieeeet.
Bungie has got some fucking explaining to do, fucking idiots. 'HUR DUR LET'S JUST USE DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS!' As if that wouldn't be exploited..
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How to get a Redbull code for Destiny's Exclusive Mission.
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Shiiieeeet.
Bungie has got some fucking explaining to do, fucking idiots. 'HUR DUR LET'S JUST USE DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS!' As if that wouldn't be exploited..
Sola Scriptura
Member
In addition, you can thank Bungie, Activision, Red Bull, and marketing firm X for their stupidity in code generation.
JetBlackPanda
Member
You are stealing, and the site flags you for trying to game the system?
something is definitely dumb here.
now i feel bad i tried to do it.
I'm from the UK, so there was no other way for me to get it.
NullPointer
Member
Any reason to think that Bungie made the site with the code redemption?
Could be a third party contracted out by Red Bull or somebody else for all we know.
Could be a third party contracted out by Red Bull or somebody else for all we know.
JetBlackPanda
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only for the month of July it will hit everywhere else after that.
Sola Scriptura
Member
Amazing, isn't it? All that goodwill Bungie had generated with gamers that had built up over years of success . . . flushed down the toilet in less than one year.
RyanPierre
Member
This does seem like fraud. Regardless of how people feel about the Red Bull promotion, guessing codes so they can be used before people legitimately obtain them sounds slimy to me. Even if the code creation/redemption system was incompetently built, that's hardly a justification to try to redeem a code that rightfully belongs to a customer instead. You'd hope everyone would have some kind of moral compass about something like this, but judging from some of the responses in this thread, I guess not.
Actually, the site would probably flag you too, if you tried to enter a legitimately obtained code over and over again due to the site problems.
For example, during E3 I got an IP rate limit warning just trying to access GAF.
Hamster Plugin
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If you are on Xbox One, you should have no issues.
If you are on PS4, you must have the US version of the game to use US DLC. If you have the EU version of the game on PS4, you're screwed and have no way to access the mission.
edit: Turns out it's not true, the codes are available for everyone.
JetBlackPanda
Member
I entered 3 codes today. Didn't have any problems, it was slow but it entered. Now the site is down.
the entire problem even with the site is because people are trying to steal.
"Yeah, I can totally empathize with those people. But the Red Bull Quest is a pretty cool package for people who want to pursue that stuff. Otherwise, surely what you're saying is that you would want to buy more cans of Red Bull, right? [Laughs] Well, we have nothing more to talk about regarding your opportunity to spend extra money in Destiny, other than The Taken King Red Bull Quest and the 7-11 Red Bull cans we've announced."
BreezyLimbo
Banned
You call it stealing, I call it exploiting a very badly made system. Not that I did it, but Bungie has no one but themselves to blame(Or Red Bull, whoever cocked up this 6 digit combination that is extremely finite) for this.
6 digits, jesus christ.
JetBlackPanda
Member
no its stealing, bad code system or not.
Right. XP boost is out now, quest on 9/15.
Mushroomer25
Member
In some ways, Destiny is the ultimate gaming experience. It's all metagame to make up for the lack of videogame.
Yes, but if you tried now to enter a code over and over again, it would *maybe* give you the same error other people are having. It's not a way to flag abusers of the system, just a network feature.
If someone tries to enter a valid, non-used code on first try, even if they're just abusing it, the platform hasn't got a way to differentiate that user from one that legally bought a drink. Thus, the IP limit isn't a way to actually stop abusing "made up" codes.
That's really not the problem.
It's the fact that any combo of three digits plus throw in two othe digits works.
Plus that you can easily guess a large number of times on the red bull site.
I am guessing the blame lies with red bull.
No this is stealing, You can try to defend this but it makes you and anyone else that does this really pathetic.
Delusibeta
Banned
The fact that this has been keygenned already is hilarious. Either Red Bull, Bungie or Activision fucked up massively by making codes this easy to keygen. Considering the hiding place (underneath the tab), I'm inclined to point at Red Bull here, although whoever decided that the codes should be a combination of three specific letters and three specific digits needs a pay cut for his/her genius.
JetBlackPanda
Member
Yes I understand that, the system is under load from people spamming codes.
whats the point here? that guy is pissed because it flagged him when he is trying to steal code is just being ridiculous. Yes I understand it flagged him and could me because the site is having issues.
TipsyArchmage
Neo Member
I have no moral issues at all with exploiting such a hilariously broken system
unfortunately the site is currently too broken for me to grab one
unfortunately the site is currently too broken for me to grab one
This is pretty messed up. So just because i live in Europe im missing out on DLC?
Mushroomer25
Member
All videogame user rights issues must be explained with a food analogy.
Imagine you're visiting a buffet. You pay for entry, and are offered a 'premium plate' for a few bucks more that entitles you to some exclusive fried shrimp that you can't otherwise get. There's only so much fried shrimp.
You get in line (near the front), and fill your plate. You get to the 'exclusive' fried shrimp, and find that there's no verification to get said shrimp. Since you didn't pay, it is stealing to take the shrimp. However, its' inevitable that with so many people behind you in line - some people who paid extra for the shrimp won't get any. Even if you don't take any, somebody behind you will steal regardless.
So is it immoral to take the shrimp? If you're only leaving more shrimp to be stolen?
Well, fuck. i'm done then, cause i live in the UK.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Good job. Enjoy your broken system, Bungie.
Those aren't PSN codes. If you enter the code on Redbull you will be directed to the bungie-net site, which is universal for any platform. So it doesn't matter where you live and what platform you're playing on, Bungie will unlock said mission and bonus for your Destiny account. It's not tied to a region
NullPointer
Member
Bring up the code redemption form and then have everybody make for the right side of the page where there's more cover and fewer ads. Then spam the submission form with everybody's 365 Ghallies before group wiping. Respawn at the page header and snipe the code generator until it drops to one knee - that's your signal that your code is valid and the site is vulnerable. Now have a defender pop a bubble to protect you from the site's IP flag attack and then rinse and repeat the sniping and wiping for another few minutes until you take the site down.
Voila. +200 Red Bull rep, a Token of Brand Damage attained. Easy.
Dr Amazon MD
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JetBlackPanda
Member
Lets make up buffet analogies to excuse theft.
My can of Redbull says it comes with a code for Destiny stuff. I purchased this can.
You did not, you stole my code by guessing it.
but whatever somehow its the same as food being taken at a buffet.
No. You can use a code. Those aren't Playstation Network codes. these are codes that unlock certain things on your bungie.net account which aren't tied to a region. (people on reddit already used their codes on their EU accounts, worked just fine)
TipsyArchmage
Neo Member
It's obviously immoral. Just saying that other people are going to steal as well doesn't justify it at all
...that said I'd totally take the shrimp, but I'm not going to pretend I was in the right or anything
InStrangerAeons
Member
I really do like Destiny, but I can't help but enjoy the trainwreck the past week has been for the game.
This system is so hilariously broken, it reminds me of those infinite 48 hour Xbox Live trials you could get from that Tropicana Twister contest site years ago.
This system is so hilariously broken, it reminds me of those infinite 48 hour Xbox Live trials you could get from that Tropicana Twister contest site years ago.
JigglesBunny
Banned
A friend of mine just entered a random jumbling of numbers and letters and it went through, he's dying of laughter while I think this whole thing is a dick move.
You're stealing codes from paying customers. Despite the fact that this promotion shouldn't exist in the first place, it's not a good idea to punish those who bought into it.
You're stealing codes from paying customers. Despite the fact that this promotion shouldn't exist in the first place, it's not a good idea to punish those who bought into it.
But still, this is a great fuck you to Redbull AND Bungie.
Oh, people know all too well. Don't go easy on them. It's expected, but it's still a dick move that cuts other people out of things they rightly bought.
I heard wind of this yesterday and specifically went out to buy a dumb-ass can of Red Bull so I could ensure that the $3.50 I ended up paying actually unlocked the bonus content for me. It did, thankfully.
Hate on the shitty drink tie-in all you want, but anyone who does this knows that they're taking a code away from someone else who will get home and freak out when the code they bought doesn't work.
JetBlackPanda
Member
I asked the same thing.
it seems like LOL DESTINY sucks = its fine to steal from people.
Hamster Plugin
Member
Oh, sorry. I've seen region specific promos before, good to see they're bypassing Sony's dumb region-specific codes.
That's my issue with this whole thing for people that are stealing the codes and thinking they are justified doing it. It's affecting people that bought the cans that contain the codes.
The basis of the promotion sucks but anyone saying they are justified stealing codes are in the wrong.
Mushroomer25
Member
My point was more twofold -
A) The framing system is inherently dumb and anti-consumer.
B) Regardless of what your action is, people will be scammed out of their product. If you don't input a guessed code, its' likely somebody else will try to use that same code by guessing before that particular can is purchased. This promotion has already gone up in flames - your actions don't shift the outcome.
Alcoholikaust
Member
This is incredible-really who designs a code generator that simple?
Can't wait to hear Bungie's response to this.
Can't wait to hear Bungie's response to this.
Dr Amazon MD
Member
Yeah, if someone buys a can and your code has already been used then I feel bad for ya. But Bungie deserves this shit for locking content behind a fucking Red Bull can. Anti consumer bullshit.
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