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Human beings as currency. How many would you spend?
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you crazy for this one Mama
Lance Bone Path
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A year is long enough to set up a system using the most advanced cryptographic methods to find and pay several million anonymous women to give us what we can call "birth-coins".
Well, there is an undoubted surplus of politicians, most of which were democratically elected to serve the general public, so I'd say we start from there. I would have no problem at all suggesting my own president, his secretaries and essentially every elected official of my country as candidates for the trade. That at least should buy us the disease curing vaccine and the clean energy. Humanity would benefit greatly from both.
To tell you the truth I am sure a lot of people would willingly sacrifice themselves for this as well, but I also trust humanity to fuck it up somehow, of people in power to try to benefit particularly by any of this and probably even start a war somehow.
I doubt anyone in the world (or very few select people for it to matter) would reject the offer. We are greedy as hell, and this basically guarantee us stuff we've been trying to get for thousands of years. More people have died for stupid wars than we'd need for this.
To tell you the truth I am sure a lot of people would willingly sacrifice themselves for this as well, but I also trust humanity to fuck it up somehow, of people in power to try to benefit particularly by any of this and probably even start a war somehow.
I doubt anyone in the world (or very few select people for it to matter) would reject the offer. We are greedy as hell, and this basically guarantee us stuff we've been trying to get for thousands of years. More people have died for stupid wars than we'd need for this.
WanderingWind
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...what's up with slavery threads today?
DefectiveReject
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I'd tell him he's been too kind and to take 100m.
I'd also ask how he'd get 1.5m on his damned ship
I'd also ask how he'd get 1.5m on his damned ship
Bel Marduk
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Mama Robotnik said:
I can't tell if this would actually be something good.
Huevos de Oro
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Well, it's bigger on the inside, after all.DefectiveReject said:
I'd probably buy the lot. The first picks would obviously be any current members of Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Gadhafi Loyalists, Kim Jong Il Loyalists, and so on. Do we actually have to be able to deliver the people or just name them so he can claim them himself?
I was thinking about Dr. Pleb today, he must've installed a device on me when I wasn't looking.
That said:
The Plebian molecular fusion generator
The Plebian Immunity Vaccine
The Plebian Environment Repairing Nanite Swarm
The Plebian Time Observer
The Plebian Faster than Light Drive
The Plebian Solar System shield
The Plebian Terraformation Torpedo
Those are all what I'd consider essentials, having the greatest orgasm is not an essential. Though it does sound like a blast but is totally unnecessary. Same with the The Plebian Internal Nanite Crew and the Plebian Afterlife ones.
I chose the Time Observer specifically to shut up conspiracy theorist and to also obtain exact history.
Total: 917,000 human beings
That said:
The Plebian molecular fusion generator
The Plebian Immunity Vaccine
The Plebian Environment Repairing Nanite Swarm
The Plebian Time Observer
The Plebian Faster than Light Drive
The Plebian Solar System shield
The Plebian Terraformation Torpedo
Those are all what I'd consider essentials, having the greatest orgasm is not an essential. Though it does sound like a blast but is totally unnecessary. Same with the The Plebian Internal Nanite Crew and the Plebian Afterlife ones.
I chose the Time Observer specifically to shut up conspiracy theorist and to also obtain exact history.
Total: 917,000 human beings
Vulcano's assistant
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we need to counter the evolution discussions somehow.WanderingWind said:
gray_fox224
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First reply nails it son
Joe Molotov
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I would trade 95% of GAF for a cyborg penis.
Mama Robotnik
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Thanks for the nice comments those that like the thread!
I wonder if Dr Pleb thinks that humans might value toys that can fulfill their desires over things that might actually improve the planet as a whole, perhaps? That's one guess anyway.
Dr. Pleb has expressed in the OP that the people he takes are not recoverable by the technologies provided.
Even the Enhanced Afterlife Generator will not catch the "souls" of those submitted to him.
7Th said:
I wonder if Dr Pleb thinks that humans might value toys that can fulfill their desires over things that might actually improve the planet as a whole, perhaps? That's one guess anyway.
cooljeanius said:
Dr. Pleb has expressed in the OP that the people he takes are not recoverable by the technologies provided.
Even the Enhanced Afterlife Generator will not catch the "souls" of those submitted to him.
Mama Robotnik said:
So it'll malfunction horribly every week and nearly kill us?
How come the sex enhancing thing is three times as expensive as the thing that cures all sickness/diseases forever?
I'm pretty sure you could be several thousand volunteers, given that their fate isn't clear.
But the whole thing seems like some sort of lame alien morality test, because if Dr Pleb could actually provide all these things, why would he even need people.
7Th said:
I'd be more excited about a actual holodeck than about a perpetual motion machine.
A holodeck can basically grant you 99.9% of all wishes you could think of in a way that's indistinguishable from reality.
A perpetual motion machine would have way less benefit to you as an inidividual IMO.
Huevos de Oro
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One fart of Dr. Pleb, delivered straight to your cerebral cortex.3N16MA said:
HellKarnassus
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Is famine considered a terminal disease?
Trojita
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The sex drug and the holodeck sound like an easy way to be vulnerable to getting hurt.
Does the pocket universe have each person living on an earth like planet with the rest of the back up copies? How the fuck does it work, you said consciousness so that sounds more like a backup of our minds would all be put be in some giant machine in the shape of a ball or like a cosmic cub.
Does the pocket universe have each person living on an earth like planet with the rest of the back up copies? How the fuck does it work, you said consciousness so that sounds more like a backup of our minds would all be put be in some giant machine in the shape of a ball or like a cosmic cub.
Here's a slightly similar scenario plucked from Babylon 5. Let us suppose that Jha'Dur, last survivor of the Dilgar race, offers you the plans for producing a serum that grants its user effective immortality. (Agelessness, but not immunity to death from illness or injury.) However, and though she is reluctant to tell you this, the production of one dose of the serum requires the murder of another living sapient being. In essence, one person can become immortal at the cost of another person's life. Would you accept the plans or turn her away?
I love Dr. Pleb threads! My responses are bolded below.
My main issue would be more dealing with how the tech would be distributed. Who get's access to the schematics? Does everyone get to use the tech? How is access controlled.
If corporations/governments get their hands on it, you know damn well we'd be made to pay an arm and a leg for access to any of this stuff. There would also be an extreme polarization of high and low status people based on access to the tech.
Mama Robotnik, how does Dr. Pleb propose to distribute this technology? Which entity controls it? Will that entity be one person, a corporation or a government?
Mama Robotnik said:Do you tell Dr. Pleb to leave and never return, knowing what his technology could do for the future of mankind?
Fuck no, we need his tech!
Do you purchase his technology, and if so how do you choose which human beings become payment? Remember that anyone ill or in prison is disqualified.
Hell yes! I'd advocate the purchase of all of it. Hell, I'd also be one of the first people to volunteer to be one of the humans who would be the payment. I'd also set up either set up or attempt to join any organization that was actively looking for volunteers for payment. I think there would be at least 1.5 million humans who would volunteer. The elderly (who are not close to death), generally curious, xeno-obsessed or totally nuts would also be good candidates for payment. He never specified that mental patients wouldn't work.
Do you buy any of the schematics, and if so which ones?
All of them.
Do you think that if humans expand and continue to advance, we will need any of these technologies to survive?
The FTL drive, terraforming, environmental repair, power generation devices and immunity wonderdrug technologies would be pretty much required as they would make exploring the cosmos much easier. The solar system shield would be useful in case of hostile threats, the holodeck would progress science by leaps and bounds by providing a useful tool for laboratory experiments. So, yes
If a democratic vote was done all over the world, for people to choose whether to tell Dr. Pleb to leave or sell him the human beings, what would be the outcome?
You better believe people would be all for selling the shit out of other people. And they'd do it mighty quick. Heck, China alone would probably provide the names of any 1.5 million of it's healthy citizens just to get the tech.
My main issue would be more dealing with how the tech would be distributed. Who get's access to the schematics? Does everyone get to use the tech? How is access controlled.
If corporations/governments get their hands on it, you know damn well we'd be made to pay an arm and a leg for access to any of this stuff. There would also be an extreme polarization of high and low status people based on access to the tech.
Mama Robotnik, how does Dr. Pleb propose to distribute this technology? Which entity controls it? Will that entity be one person, a corporation or a government?
Fusion Pizza
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China would be all over this before we could come up with an answer, but I would personally give away as many humans as neccesary for that tech, specifically all the creationists/anti intelectual/anti science crowd, its a Win/Win/Win.
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Wtf is this shit?
PdotMichael
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DarthWoo said:
Yeah, I would, I don't need to kill a kid or a healthy person just a ill person, who will live just some hours anyway.
The whole setup here is really weak, MamaRobotnik. If you ask every single one of us if we´d sacrifice 1,5 million people for this awesome technology. Sure. You didn´t mention anything about "but it would include your family and friends", so if it´s just 1,5 million strangers, fuck them.
Now, what would make this a more interesting thought experience is the question as to what would realistically happen? What I mean is, can you imagine Obama announcing "Starting tomorrow, we will choose 1,5 million Americans that will be sacrificed for the greater good. I hope you´re all fine with that!" I doubt it.
So, rather than "would you do that?", I´d ask you "Do you think it would be even possible to do it?" I´d imagine WW3 is more likely to be the result of Dr Pleb´s offering.
Now, what would make this a more interesting thought experience is the question as to what would realistically happen? What I mean is, can you imagine Obama announcing "Starting tomorrow, we will choose 1,5 million Americans that will be sacrificed for the greater good. I hope you´re all fine with that!" I doubt it.
So, rather than "would you do that?", I´d ask you "Do you think it would be even possible to do it?" I´d imagine WW3 is more likely to be the result of Dr Pleb´s offering.
I was going to say that they should screw themselves but given that apparently there are some sinister bad guys capable of torturing people for an eternity. I'd say that there are a few things that would be valuable to have.
The terraformer torpedoes, faster than light travel, many molecular fusion generators, environment repairing nanite swarms, and a couple solar shields.
I'm not sure what the costs would add up to but I'd be willing to wager a few hundred million people give or take (I'd suspect mostly men) so long as Dr. Pleb does the difficult work of simply beaming them up.
We don't put everyone into our prison system.
Pleb can take those affiliated with terrorist organizations like Al Qaeda or Hamas, the numerous militia groups and their warlords, the armies that support violent dictators, all individuals that have ever served time for violent crimes, those who sacrifice people for the sanctity of their personal beliefs, those involved in organized crime but are not yet convicted, and basically a long list of similar ideas plus the inclusion of myself into the payment and for Dr. Pleb to never return.
Never ask of others what you yourself are unwilling.
The terraformer torpedoes, faster than light travel, many molecular fusion generators, environment repairing nanite swarms, and a couple solar shields.
I'm not sure what the costs would add up to but I'd be willing to wager a few hundred million people give or take (I'd suspect mostly men) so long as Dr. Pleb does the difficult work of simply beaming them up.
We don't put everyone into our prison system.
Pleb can take those affiliated with terrorist organizations like Al Qaeda or Hamas, the numerous militia groups and their warlords, the armies that support violent dictators, all individuals that have ever served time for violent crimes, those who sacrifice people for the sanctity of their personal beliefs, those involved in organized crime but are not yet convicted, and basically a long list of similar ideas plus the inclusion of myself into the payment and for Dr. Pleb to never return.
Never ask of others what you yourself are unwilling.
Voluntary method. Anyone who wants to sign up as a guinea pig for Dr. Pleb is free to do so. They can even specify which technology they want to sacrifice themselves for. If the numbers add up, they get to go. I'm sure a lot of people who feel they don't have much of a future on earth would volunteer.
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