ColtraineGF
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http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/ds.htmlWhere are you getting these numbers from? vg - you know what?
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/ds.htmlWhere are you getting these numbers from? vg - you know what?
Kids tend to not line up at midnight for video games...
Is Pokemon no longer for kids any more? All I see is adults
Genuine question
Where are you getting these numbers from? vg - you know what?
Is Pokemon no longer for kids any more? All I see is adults
Genuine question
Kids tend to not line up at midnight for video games...
I'd be dragging my mom to that shit if I was a kid
Right but that's lifetime sales. Older pokemon games have and always will have very long shelf lives.
Compare Black and White's first year to Diamond and Pearls.
Is Pokemon no longer for kids any more? All I see is adults
Genuine question
Uh, yes. That's like saying Avatar isn't a kid's show because it was a really cool cartoon.Was it ever for kids? The very first one was a really cool rpg. All of the main entries are rpg really.
And you can battle other players unlike most rpgs
Right but that's lifetime sales. Older pokemon games have and always will have very long shelf lives.
Compare Black and White's first year to Diamond and Pearls.
And if anything that doesn't bode well for X and Y because that indicates interest in Pokemon is going down over the years.
Feel free to post the numbers
Moving them goalposts right along, eh?
"Won't sell half as well as B&W". Yeah, good luck with that prediction.
I highly doubt it's even $30 million with marketing budget factored in. Game Freak is 90 people, of which about 80 actually worked on X and Y, with a few people from the Treehouse to do faster localization. Sure, it's the first time Pokemon has done 3D graphics, but even that was relatively simple and humble versus what the system can really pull off. Considering that games like Uncharted and Gears of War 2 had budgets in the 10-20 million range with marketing factored in, I'd have to guess that X and Y had a budget under ten million. Maybe even under five, but that might be selling it a bit short.To compare these games to GTA V seems strange to me. GTA V had a budget of over $250 million with "much more" than 1,000 people working on it. I'd reckon Pokemon X & Y had a budget in the region of $30 million, so it's going to be a huge cash cow regardless.
Futhermore, what they are arguing actually hurts the case that X and Y will do as well as previous iterations because we have seen drop off in each new release.
Why couldn't Black/White outdo Diamond/Pearl when Diamond and Pearl had 40 million users and Black/White had 130 million DS users at the time of their release?
That would indicate that interest in Pokemon has gone down over the years and each title is selling less.
Uh, yes. That's like saying Avatar isn't a kid's show because it was a really cool cartoon.
Futhermore, what they are arguing actually hurts the case that X and Y will do as well as previous iterations because we have seen drop off in each new release.
Why couldn't Black/White outdo Diamond/Pearl when Diamond and Pearl had 40 million users and Black/White had 130 million DS users at the time of their release?
That would indicate that interest in Pokemon has gone down over the years and each title is selling less.
So why is it that Nintendo always releases two versions of the same Pokemon game? I've always wondered that.
Futhermore, what they are arguing actually hurts the case that X and Y will do as well as previous iterations because we have seen drop off in each new release.
Why couldn't Black/White outdo Diamond/Pearl when Diamond and Pearl had 40 million users and Black/White had 130 million DS users at the time of their release?
That would indicate that interest in Pokemon has gone down over the years and each title is selling less.
I don't mean lifetime, I mean in the initial goings (1 year). Which I stand by.
That would indicate that interest in Pokemon has gone down over the years and each title is selling less.
I played a lot of Pokemon. Then I turned 11.
Because the sentiment was that Gen V was a stopgap iteration before VI.
You're forgetting that X/Y have raised interest back up substantially
Because the sentiment was that Gen V was a stopgap iteration before VI.
Is Pokemon no longer for kids any more? All I see is adults
Genuine question
Because the sentiment was that Gen V was a stopgap iteration before VI.
Stopgap? The game featured 150 some odd new Pokemon.
There was a lot of new things to be had. If anything Pearl and Diamond was the stopgap.
Has it? Based on what? The number of posts in a Neogaf spoiler thread?
I mean seriously, if you compare gen 4 and 5 there's really not that much of a difference compared to the transition between every other gen
Or that Diamond and Pearl exploded and broke records for the series, and what followed didn't reach the same heights due to differing circumstances, but still sold incredibly well as all Pokemon games do.
X & Y are still getting an absurd amount of hype. So as I said, good luck.
Differing circumstances being interest not as high?...
I'm not sure what those circumstances are, but the install base was 3 times as much, it should have and could have outsold Diamond easily.
So what are you getting at? Pokemon is on the way out or something?
Gen IV and V to a greater degree had issues with franchise fatigue. Black and White started off with a poor reception that was largely rooted in a perceived lack of changes to the metagame, being stuck on the same system as the previous generation of Pokemon titles (an unheard of precedent at the time), and using a largely similar graphics approach to the previous generation. X and Y are the first fully 3D titles in the series with a laundry list of meta game alterations on a level not seen since the second iterations in the series, and has a massive hype train behind it in comparison to what Black and White had.Futhermore, what they are arguing actually hurts the case that X and Y will do as well as previous iterations because we have seen drop off in each new release.
Why couldn't Black/White outdo Diamond/Pearl when Diamond and Pearl had 40 million users and Black/White had 130 million DS users at the time of their release?
That would indicate that interest in Pokemon has gone down over the years and each title is selling less.
I don't mean lifetime, I mean in the initial goings. Which I stand by.
Stopgap? The game featured 150 some odd new Pokemon.
There was a lot of new things to be had. If anything Pearl and Diamond was the stopgap.
Has it? Based on what? The number of posts in a Neogaf spoiler thread?
No, I said that Pokemon X and Y will sell 8-10 million lifetime. Does that sound like it's on its way out to you?
Most games would kill to have those numbers.
If I had a dollar for every person I've seen say they are buying a 3DS for Pokemon, or they haven't played a Pokemon game since Gen 1/2/3' but are getting this one, I would probably be rich.
I'd say the number of views in the NeoGAF spoiler thread. Considering this website is linked to hell and back across the internet, the staggering amount of views on the thread should be a huge indication.
No, I said that Pokemon X and Y will sell 8-10 million lifetime. Does that sound like it's on its way out to you?
Most games would kill to have those numbers.
I see it easily outselling the Gold and Silver remakes.
I don't remember the MH4 Lineup thread being this shitty lols. the fuck you guys?
I don't remember the MH4 Lineup thread being this shitty lols. the fuck you guys?
Let's take a look at software sales for 3DS so far.
The highest title which has been out for 2 years now, has 8 million units sold. (Super Mario 3D Land)
3DS software sales aren't there yet. Hopefully, with Pokemon, Zelda A Link Between Two Worlds and Smash coming, the install base will grow.
Let's take a look at software sales for 3DS so far.
The highest title which has been out for 2 years now, has 8 million units sold. (Super Mario 3D Land)
3DS software sales aren't there yet. Hopefully, with Pokemon, Zelda A Link Between Two Worlds and Smash coming, the install base will grow.
Mario as an entire franchise is nearing a billion units sold (~800 million). GTA is well over 100 million, but somewhere below Pokemon's 250 million units sold as an entire franchise. There's no doubt that GTA outdoes the mainline Mario games individually, but as a whole Mario is a much larger franchise. Mario Kart Wii outsold the best selling individual GTA game (San Andreas, something like 27 million units versus 33 million for MKWii), even if that was a freak accident. So no, GTA is not bigger.
It's certainly more relevant to the modern gaming industry, though.