SEGAvangelist
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Yeah, not sold on Forza being behind yet. 4-6 weeks is different than 6 months.
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Kinect Sports Rivals seemingly delayed to Spring 2014
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Yeah, not sold on Forza being behind yet. 4-6 weeks is different than 6 months.
Maximilian Kolbe
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Then they will blame MS for doing more than 1 Kinect games
All this talk about Kinect and how awesome it is because of voice commands. Am i missing someing here? Didn't SOCOM on the PS2 support voice commands? Isn't a mic all that is needed to use voice commands in games? If voice commands are the best feature in your camera i think there might be a problem there.
MikeE21286
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Hmm....not good starting Kinect 2 momentum
Although it's more forgivable, Sony also should have had a game lined up for launch that makes use of Move/PS4Eye. Hopefully they'll make The Playroom more substantial. That would help. But they should've had a new Sports Champions or something.
Kazuma Kiryu
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Castef
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Ok. Now Microsoft really has to show a bunch of Kinect-based games.
It makes absolutely NO SENSE to put the Kinect in bundle with every console and then do not provide enough reasons for this, except for Skype chatting and "Xbox go home!".
6 Months behind rumour is likely true
They moneyhated Capcom for Dead Rising (likely was a 360/PS3 game before) to make their line up seem bigger, this game was pretty far in development so it was a good moneyhat as it would be ready for launch
Of course TitanFall was money hated for time exclusive (a year according to CBoat)
Killer Instinct was farmed out to Double Helix who are experienced devs who can work with time constraint to churn out movie licensed games.
Kinect Sports Rivals delayed, seriously what the fuck is RARE upto, they ain't making Killer Instinct yet they can't release a Kinect game in time
Forza is making it for launch but will have day 1 free DLC, obviosly they didn't have time to add everthing before going Gold.
Ryse has completely changed from a Kinect game (so much for having confidence in Kinect for a system where it integral) to a shitty quick time event game with bvoice commands.
Quantum Break, no sign of gameplay for this game
Sunset Overdrive, same as above
Halo, same as above
Black Tusk shooter, same as above, why even show this it seems like MS was desperate and blew their load of announcing games
I think that rumour before of MS being 6 months behind, and moneyhating due to concerns is actually true.
They moneyhated Capcom for Dead Rising (likely was a 360/PS3 game before) to make their line up seem bigger, this game was pretty far in development so it was a good moneyhat as it would be ready for launch
Of course TitanFall was money hated for time exclusive (a year according to CBoat)
Killer Instinct was farmed out to Double Helix who are experienced devs who can work with time constraint to churn out movie licensed games.
Kinect Sports Rivals delayed, seriously what the fuck is RARE upto, they ain't making Killer Instinct yet they can't release a Kinect game in time
Forza is making it for launch but will have day 1 free DLC, obviosly they didn't have time to add everthing before going Gold.
Ryse has completely changed from a Kinect game (so much for having confidence in Kinect for a system where it integral) to a shitty quick time event game with bvoice commands.
Quantum Break, no sign of gameplay for this game
Sunset Overdrive, same as above
Halo, same as above
Black Tusk shooter, same as above, why even show this it seems like MS was desperate and blew their load of announcing games
I think that rumour before of MS being 6 months behind, and moneyhating due to concerns is actually true.
There is the Harmonix Fantasia game, isn't it a launch title? Just Dance will be there (but on cheaper platforms as well).
SEGAvangelist
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Nah... their games are no more behind than what Sony showed. I think Kinect 2.0 games are the ones that are really behind.
I think Gamescom will paint a better picture
KoopaTheCasual
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SEGAvangelist
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Oh for sure. It's all speculation at this point. Based on E3, though, MS had more to show. Maybe Sony didn't show more because they just needed 399/Used Games etc...
Should be a good show.
Rogue_Ledr
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Are people really upset about the delay of a Kinect game?
I could understand if this was Forza 5 or Dead Rising 3, but this?
I could understand if this was Forza 5 or Dead Rising 3, but this?
Castef
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Well, I guess this one HAS to be a real showcase of what the new Kinect can do. They simply can't frak-up this.
People are upset that Microsoft is including the Kinect with the console for $100 extra without even having a game that justifies it.
lol'd, seriously, jk post right?
Show what ? CG trailers.
Those CG trailers will likely turn into a game somewhen.
SEGAvangelist
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But what's the point of bundling Kinect, though? I'll enjoy it for the other features, but why bundle it in this case? If you're going to include it in every box, at least release it with a game that takes full advantage of it. MS will have some tough questions to answer, soon, and they need to deliver with Kinect at Gamescom for sure, now.
Yeah I understand your point but this is KS2! :S How complex of a game can it be really? Maybe they have some other launch kinect titles
Basically what happened was Sony won E3 even when they played it safe. They have so many titles yet to be revealed..
SEGAvangelist
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I'll believe this when I see it. They announced numbers like 20 in the first year instead of showing games. After spending forever on indie games I couldn't care less about in the E3 conference, it makes me wonder if most of those 20 titles will be PSN style games or something. Waiting for Gamescom/TGS to make a call on that for sure.
jordan0386
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Xbox is a multi platform box anyway. So if you want your launch carried by those titles, so be it.
If you are truly 6 months behind, fine. Things Break. But just be ready come April/May.
Half-ass Xbox controller.
Half-ass Xbox 360 initial design.
Potential half-ass on X1 pricing and/or launch game development.
At some point, you gotta get it together.
If you are truly 6 months behind, fine. Things Break. But just be ready come April/May.
Half-ass Xbox controller.
Half-ass Xbox 360 initial design.
Potential half-ass on X1 pricing and/or launch game development.
At some point, you gotta get it together.
SEGAvangelist
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They would have delayed Ryse or Dead Rising 3 if this were the case.
EDIT: Sorry read that wrong, my bad.
mangochutney
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That was Sony who said 20 exclusives year one.
MS said 15 exclusives and we've seen something like 12 or 13 of them.
jordan0386
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Neither company has, I dont think.
SEGAvangelist
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I was referring to Sony when I mentioned 20 games.
jordan0386
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Original Xbox, I am referring to.
Alx
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Sure. That's why so many games have been supporting voice commands since SOCOM PS2.
Being able to do (some) recognition with a microphone is one thing, but the real benefit of voice commands is being able to do it at any moment, without any instrumentation. The requirement of a microphone defeats most of the purpose of voice commands, since people usually don't wear one at any time.
mangochutney
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My apologies to you.
SEGAvangelist
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Sorry about that. Quick reading. I'll slow down.
jordan0386
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#BroFist
Unless you think all those devs are sitting on their butts doing nothing then yeah..they have plenty of new titles to be revealed. They announced 20 for the first year and have revealed around 5-6 iirc.
They did not talk forever about indie games. That whole segment most probably was around 10 minutes.
Not sure why you would have any doubts when it comes to Sony first and second party games on home consoles.
I mean let's be honest here, they didn't need to show too many new games. XBone reveal was mostly about tv integration and partnerships. At the PS3 reveal sony showed 4 first party exclusive titles. They just had to show some more gameplay, some good third party support, reveal their DRM policy and price and boom they 'won' E3. Now they go into GC and TGS with so much more left to show. And keep in mind, compared to MS, Sony always have bigger shows at gamescom and TGS. I don't expect MS to match that
ps: from the top of my head the known but yet to be revealed new titles include SSM game led by Stig, Quantic Dream game, ND title, GG new IP
Ol No Bones
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They didn't fund projects to make thier lineup seem bigger they did it so their lineup would be bigger.
To be fair, something like Kinect Sports still isn't going to justify it any more than Wii Sports justified the existence of the Wiimote, at least to core gamers. This is very much aimed at the casual gamer, a few gimmicks in games like Dead Rising 3 isn't going to change that too much.
SEGAvangelist
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That conference was SOOOO boring. Still waiting to see the games, though. Naughty Dog hopefully has something to show, but I can't say I'm too excited for what the other teams may have to show. Gonna wait and see, though. I hope to be amazed as I'll probably get a PS4 around the time Infamous comes out, but will for sure get one when Naughty Dog's game comes out.
Septimus Prime
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Castef
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This.
I mean, since when it is surprising that a producer pays for exclusive games?
SEGAvangelist
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No doubt more of this.
Really doubt they'll show Joy Ride 2.
dafuq
Did you not see games or something? I feel like I'm having a pointless discussion with you here. I really can't be bothered to list the games they showed at the event either.
Listen, personal tastes aside, a discussion like this needs objectivity. Not showing exclusives that excites you is a very different argument than being doubtful they have anything to show. You are basically moving goal posts now. I didn't care for any of the XBone exclusives either (might change my mind about QBreak..but need to see actual gameplay for that first) but that's not we are talking about here
Fact of the matter is MS have already shown most of their exclusive titles for year 1. (Iiirc they showed 11-12 of their 15 titles already) Sony has only scratched the surface (around 5-6 of 20) and they go into Gamescom and TGS with much more to show in that regard.
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