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Konami takes down Super Bunnyhop video (Kojima vs Konami) with copyright strike

Under what grounds did Konami try to censor the video? Did he use footage from their games or something? I 'watched' it, but with most YT videos I just listen to them in the background while I work. No idea what images or footage he showed.
 

jimi_dini

Member
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google should really implement a feature to prevent bs copyright strikes. if the claimer is proven to have done it out of spite or wrongfully google removes their right to claim copyright strikes and shit for a period of time and after the 3rd time they lose the right completely.
 

Nibel

Member
There have been a lot of videos recently that discuss the current Konami/Kojima situation, but I wonder why they took down the one with the supposed insider info; either it's real or it was seen as too damaging (since it didn't paint a too nice picture of Konami).

I wonder if they contacted BunnyHop before or abused the YouTube system.
 

ObiDin

Member
Essentially it was a protected email between Super Bunnyhop and an alleged Konami employee describing the conditions at Konami (in short, poor to abysmal). When it first came out I was a bit wary because there wasn't any real way to know if the person was actually a Konami employee, but with this? Kinda feeling like it may have been on point.

Not only that, but he explicitly stated that this should be considered "rumor" as he tried, and failed, to get a corroborating second source. However, it sounded pretty accurate based on everything else I had read concerning the fiasco. It was an interesting video and this makes it even more so.
 

danm999

Member
Holy crap. I seem to recall a quote from game of thrones about this, just replace (BOOK 1 SPOILERS, I guess) Cersei
and Jaime being Joffrey's parents
deciding that whoever spread those rumors should be hung, and Tyrion being like "listen bitch, if you do that everyone will know they were right."

When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.

Seems pretty abusive of the system by Konami.
 
Is there any way the gaming community will ever be able to forgive Konami for all this recent bullshit? They've become supervillains in their own industry, lol.
 

Akuun

Looking for meaning in GAF
Okay seriously, Konami is acting like a 14-year-old kid who just went through a nasty breakup.
 
google should really implement a feature to prevent bs copyright strikes. if the claimer is proven to have done it out of spite or wrongfully google removes their right to claim copyright strikes and shit for a period of time and after the 3rd time they lose the right completely.

Hopefully SBH kept the audio and could re-edit it over still images or some footage of a Devolver Digital game, or something. Fucking bastards trying to censor him like this... :(
 
There have been a lot of videos recently that discuss the current Konami/Kojima situation, but I wonder why they took down the one with the supposed insider info; either it's real or it was seen as too damaging (since it didn't paint a too nice picture of Konami).

I wonder if they contacted BunnyHop before or abused the YouTube system.

The way they've been handling everything lately I don't think you have to wonder all that much about their likely course of action here.
 

Kriken

Member
Even if the video wasn't true, taking it down just creates a Streisand effect and makes Konami look terrible. Just keep digging Konami
 

Circinus

Member
Is there any way the gaming community will ever be able to forgive Konami for all this recent bullshit? They've become supervillains in their own industry, lol.

Yep, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain is going to be amazing.


Supervillains is really a stretch. They might not show 100% commitment to AAA video games, but that's not evil or something. It's their business and they don't owe any consumer anything imho. We can still appreciate Konami for all the great games they've delivered in the past and for MGSV! ^.^
 

Justified

Member
Though I questioned some of the things that were being reported, I was still a journalist expose, so that was kind of shitty on Konami's part (at face value). I wonder what was the claim for? Cant remember, did he have video clips of MGSV in the video?

*yes I know that it was uploaded to Youtube, and Google has controlling authority on what is upload, and what stays uploaded
 

Mendrox

Member
Kojima!! I hope he gets the game done how he meants it to be. I once bumped into his wife at GamesCom and he didn't mind. He seems like a cool guy with talent who just worked for the false company. Fuck Konami. Love Kojima.
 

Asd202

Member
Even if the video wasn't true, taking it down just creates a Streisand effect and makes Konami look terrible. Just keep digging Konami

So better option is to let Kojima speak and say what is happening instead of pretending everything is okay with shit PR messages.
 

VariantX

Member
google should really implement a feature to prevent bs copyright strikes. if the claimer is proven to have done it out of spite or wrongfully google removes their right to claim copyright strikes and shit for a period of time and after the 3rd time they lose the right completely.

The system isnt designed to protect copyright holders, it exists to protect Google. Google doesn't have to give a shit since they get paid either way. Whether you successfully defend your uploads or have the funds siphoned off by someone making a copyright claim, Google always gets paid.
 
Hopefully SBH kept the audio and could re-edit it over still images or some footage of a Devolver Digital game, or something. Fucking bastards trying to censor him like this... :(

this kind of shit happens far too often and google seems to have no intentions of even attempting to fix it whatsoever. im telling you man, rules need to work both ways, if youtubes only get 3 chances than so should companies. Afterall it shouldn't be an issue for them, simply don't abuse youtube's system and you're good.
 

SerTapTap

Member
Youtube really needs to start kicking the ass of companies that do this in bad faith. Take away their content ID access or something. It's ridiculous and seems to always blow up (for good reason), it makes both youtube and the IP owner look like total assholes.

The system isnt designed to protect copyright holders, it exists to protect Google. Google doesn't have to give a shit since they get paid either way. Whether you successfully defend your uploads or have the funds siphoned off by someone making a copyright claim, Google always gets paid.

DCMA they're required to comply with, Content ID is where Youtube goes above and beyond (in good ways and bad). There's not much else they can do here if Konami was willing to file a DCMA complaint with them. It's mostly on Konami here.
 
These fucking guys. If there was a Konami cartridge available for my MSX home computer back in the day, I went nuts. Metal gear was one of those, in fucking 1987. They sculped my taste in games and graphics. Fuck.
 

Vorg

Banned
this kind of shit happens far too often and google seems to have no intentions of even attempting to fix it whatsoever. im telling you man, rules need to work both ways, if youtubes only get 3 chances than so should companies. Afterall it shouldn't be an issue for them, simply don't abuse youtube's system and you're good.

In a perfect world there would be an equal system for individuals and companies. Unfortunately, companies bring youtube a LOT more hits so it doesn't work that way.
 

CheesecakeRecipe

Stormy Grey
We are formless. We are the very discipline and morality that gamers invoke so often. How can anyone hope to eliminate us? As long as video games exist, so will we. Don't you know that our plans have your interests - not ours - in mind? The birth of three dimensional entertainment was completed late last century. As a result, the evolution of game design lay open to us. We started with simple geometry, but in the end we achieved near photorealism itself.

But, there are things not covered by photorealism.

Human memories, ideas. Culture. History. Polygons don't contain any record of human history. Is it something that should not be passed on? Should that information be left at the mercy of nature? We've always kept records of our lives. Through words, pictures, symbols... from tablets to books... But not all the information was inherited by later generations. A small percentage of the whole was selected and processed, then passed on. Not unlike genes, really.

But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, downgrades, slander... all this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate. It will only slow down gaming progress, reduce the rate of evolution. You seem to think that our plan is one of censorship. What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context. The digital society furthers human flaws and selectively rewards development of convenient half-truths.

Just look at the strange juxtapositions of morality around you.

Billions spent on yearly installments of games where you murder other humans.

Criminals have more digital rights than legitimate consumers.

Although there are people suffering in poverty, huge donations are made to revive dead, bloated franchises.

Everyone grows up being told the same thing. Be nice to other people... but beat out the competition!

You're special. Believe in yourself and you will succeed. But it's obvious from the start that only a few can succeed.

You exercise your right to post and this is the result. All rhetoric to avoid conflict and protect each other from hurt. The untested truths spun by different interests to churn and accumulate in the sandbox of political correctness and value systems. Everyone withdraws into their own small, gated community threads, afraid of the larger forum. They stay inside their little ponds, leaking whatever "truth" suits them into the growing cesspool of NeoGAF at large. The different cardinal truths neither clash nor mesh. No one is invalidated, but nobody is right. Not even natural selection can take place here. The world is being engulfed in "truth".

And this is the way gaming ends. Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

We're trying to stop that from happening. It's our responsibility as a publisher. Just as in genetics, unnecessary information and memory must be filtered out to stimulate the evolution of the medium. Who else could wade through the sea of garbage you people produce, retrieve valuable truths and even interpret their meaning for later generations?

That's what it means to create context.

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koutoru

Member
This is stuff you just can't make up.
Last year, if someone told me this was all going to happen, I would never believe them.
 

MiguelItUp

Member
I now feel compelled to believe everything that was said in that video.

Yeah, no kidding. It's really hard to not feel that way. I thought the video was incredibly impressive and well done. This outcome just makes me feel like it hit the nail on the head, or came extremely close to it.
 

dracula_x

Member
Copyright regarding...?
Maybe the dude mentioned too many times the word "Konami" in his video?

Disgusting, Konami, take your money for MGSV and leave this industry, please.

It's unbelievable how many horrible things they managed to accomplish in a couple of months.
Yes. To me, it looks more like a censorship than a copyright issue.
 

blacklotus

Member
If the stuff that's on the video is true, does it mean PES2016 isn't releasing this year?
Or they are selling the franchise or something?
 
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