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Kotaku: Sony is working on a PS4.5; briefing devs on plans for a more powerful PS4
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Yeah, you can at least assume backward compatibility. The interesting question with both this and Microsoft's plans is whether and how well older games will scale with newer hardware iterations. Hopefully it is comparable to PC
Obliterator
Member
Oh I know I just didn't know if he would have some fun with all this craziness
How much stronger can they make it without making it too much of a gap?
Honestly, I feel like I'll be dissapointed if it isn't noticeable. I do like the smell of a new(ish) console.
Honestly, I feel like I'll be dissapointed if it isn't noticeable. I do like the smell of a new(ish) console.
😂😂
Elitist1945
Member
You must not be looking very hard.
If they had the same opportunity as MS they would in a heartbeat. You know they would.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
so this is unrelated but level 5 game at e3 this year? y/n thanks
Netherscourge
Banned
I think he means 100% PS4 exclusives.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I hope they upgrade the SATA controller so I can really zoom with a speedy HDD.
Giriath_89
Member
Most competitive online play is already 60 fps. I imagine that will become an even bigger priority with multiple SKU's with different hardware. The newer models will probably just have better resolution, which has far less impact on player performance.
Patrick Klepek
furiously molesting tim burton
Person Trying to Make A Living On The Internet Writes Things, Some Better Than Others
ToastyEthan
Banned
Disentegrates on permadeath.
Sumio Mondo
Member
As long as these "upgraded games" with better visual fidelity and whatever work on OG PS4, I don't care. If it splits the userbase though, then ehhhh, SEGA all over again...
nice gif lol
mugoldeneagle03
Member
If it's just to support certain VR games & 4K I don't think a 2nd system would cause a riff between owners at all.
But if we start getting unplayable games branded with the "Only on new PS4" bullshit like the 3DS does I'll be pissed.
Here's to having faith Sony won't fuck this one up
But if we start getting unplayable games branded with the "Only on new PS4" bullshit like the 3DS does I'll be pissed.
Here's to having faith Sony won't fuck this one up
PS4 U more likely
zerokoolpsx
Member
I would stick to upgrading my PC it this was true. Elite PS4 and Xbox One. Fragment the user base. Yeah, what can go wrong?
Cynn
Member
And the award for the most oval controller goes to... Nintendo!
Permanently A
Junior Member
Uh
the fuck
the fuck
They should there not changing architecture just that the PS4 regular version will be min.
Obliterator
Member
Ah the man himself has arrived.
Whats your opinion on this Rigby? How do you think this is all going to shake out?
Eighty Deuce
Banned
Bingo
Pimpbaa
Member
Last gen hardware was completely different. The PS3 had a split memory pool, custom CPU that hardly anyone took advantage of, and an nvidia GPU. Comparing the PS4 to a PS3 is like comparing an ipad to an apple newton. A PS4 compared to a PS4.5 would be like comparing an ipad 2 to an ipad 4. They play the same games, no features are missing, the only difference is the resolution. The PS4.5 will most likely just have a newer GPU and CPU from AMD with a bit more ram to accommodate the higher resolutions, and will run the same OS. Any ps4 games made before the PS4.5 will work on the PS4.5 (although they probably won't take advantage of the increased performance unless the developer updates it to do so), and any games made after will work on the PS4. This isn't anything new for a closed platform (the ipad example). When I picked up a new ipad last year, almost every game I bought for my ipad 4 and ipad 1 worked absolutely fine. And the few that didn't were due to incompatibilities with the lastest ios version.
timetokill
Banned
Makes sense if they're serious about VR. In it's current form the PS4 is simply too weak for the VR future.
And since in the near term VR is already going to be divided by class, makes sense that they just figure put out a better PS4 and have the rich ones buy it along with PSVR.
And since in the near term VR is already going to be divided by class, makes sense that they just figure put out a better PS4 and have the rich ones buy it along with PSVR.
Wait you guis! We just got here!! 😩
If they can release a device that plays PS4 games but in 4K resolution with upgraded effects then there will be no fracture in the msrket. Online should work equally across both devices... except those who shell out for the more powerful machine will have much prettier visuals.
Good idea considering consoles are now not sold at a loss. Gotta keep people spending to fill those corporate coffers ala Apple.
Good idea considering consoles are now not sold at a loss. Gotta keep people spending to fill those corporate coffers ala Apple.
DemonCleaner
Member
8Tflops PS4.5 incoming
my arse
Why is this cryptic "I'm an insider with sauces" bullshit still allowed?
Sumio Mondo
Member
Coo, then I'm all for it and will probably upgrade myself a couple of years after it releases.
somecrazymember
Banned
games in 4k? I lol'd
This generation is starting to feel like more and more of a joke as time goes on, as if the industry knew that it wasn't ready for another full normal cycle of consoles (since the writing was on the wall that things had to change) but they couldn't push another 2-3 years with the same dated hardware.
The solution was what must have always been intended to be a stop gap in "safe" hardware with a few new features, but targeting most development for a future console generation. It makes way more sense that everyone knew this generation was more bullshit than they lead on. I'm surprised we aren't still getting cross-gen titles for all big releases for the rest of the generation at this rate.
The solution was what must have always been intended to be a stop gap in "safe" hardware with a few new features, but targeting most development for a future console generation. It makes way more sense that everyone knew this generation was more bullshit than they lead on. I'm surprised we aren't still getting cross-gen titles for all big releases for the rest of the generation at this rate.
RealityCheque
Banned
And here I was thinking that the Nintendo Stewie controller was going to be the most ill advised hardware choice of 2016.
Well done Sony, you "win" .
Well done Sony, you "win" .
ISee
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The leaders of clickbait blog posting. Yes they're extremely good at it.
And that's the problem here. The news is: Somebody I trust told me that Sony is planning something. It involves native 4k output and their Playstation brand. And that's the quintessence. The rest are speculations and a lot of questions asked by the author.
Is he asking me? Because I do not know, I was reading his 'article' to get some answers and not to get questioned or to read about his speculations and thoughts.
And the best part is at the end:
But whatever.
Patrick Klepek's a solid dude. Just because he needs to put out articles like those to make a living doesn't make this news any less valid. If the articles you were linking to had false info in them or were poorly researched, that'd be a different story. He's talking about a rumor that has been heard by sources he personally knows, and also talks about his other colleagues hearing it. Elaborating and writing opinions based off the current known info is what online writers do.
It's also kind of hard to believe Sony would talk about something so big with developers and they would just casually talk about it in a line at GDC, and it's harder to believe that more people are not reporting on this if the information is so readily avaiable
Kölsch Bloot
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I'll eat an entire crow herd
if true.
do they even live in herds
sems4arsenal
Member
Can't wait for the lazy devs bad port on the weaker PS4 threads.
IceDoesntHelp
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Of course they have to fill the site on slow news days, but Kotaku has also been home to some great pieces recently. Jason Schreier's piece on Destiny's troubled development is a story that everybody wanted to read after playing that game for the first time after experiencing all of the marketing hype. Klepek is also one of the better investigative journalists in the industry today, breaking the Infinity Ward creator drama and the XBox One-Eighty.
If this is intended to support 4K and PSVR titles, then I guess developers are going to have to focus on developing for the PS4.0 as the main platform? Otherwise it would probably lead to a lot of 'New 3DS' style exclusive games for the 4.5.
Seems like a weird idea. If you're boosting the PS4 capability to support 4K resolution games, fuck it, release it as the PS5 and let it play future and patched PS4 games at 4K. I can understand that Sony wants to sell 4K televisions, but 1080p televisions were being used for 720p PS3 games last gen - 4K'll catch on at its own speed.
Seems like a weird idea. If you're boosting the PS4 capability to support 4K resolution games, fuck it, release it as the PS5 and let it play future and patched PS4 games at 4K. I can understand that Sony wants to sell 4K televisions, but 1080p televisions were being used for 720p PS3 games last gen - 4K'll catch on at its own speed.
Papacheeks
Banned
Look at how New 3DS worked out? People were not happy and actually didn't give to shits about it. They had one or 2 games that would only work on New 3DS.
That's the issue. And seeing that Patrick was able to get a few "Sighs" with developers scratching their heads, seems to show that not even they are looking forward to having to target different specs.
As SneakersOS was saying in the XBox thread about this similar issue. I don't see how this doesn't add more work for them. Regardless if performance might be better with a more efficient CPU/GPU, THEY STILL have to make the game run and look good on the base PS4. There are too many people now that own one. It makes sense to do this when sales stagnate and all developers are showing they can't run their updated engines and current configs on the current console.
It does not make sense to put one out now. Unless PSVR needs this upgraded/refresh to actually run the games properly, that's a whole another conversation alone, that will piss and confuse tons of people off.
I'm in the boat that the ends don't justify the means in this scenario.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
I expect MS has their 'answer' ready as well. Phil Spencer did talk about possible upgradeable Xbox One plans. It all sounded like it was still very early days with those plans, but if Sony is actually coming with it this year, I reckon they have to keep up as well.