TheLegendOfMart
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You are cool with him partnering with G2A that sells grey market keys?
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Large Youtubers Hide Ownership of CSGO Lottery Site
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You are cool with him partnering with G2A that sells grey market keys?
Exactly.
That's the thing with the internet, once something is online it's out there forever.
Plus by removing or editing things, it's almost an admission of guilt, if he genuinely believed he had done nothing wrong, as implied by his initial replies to people questioning him, he'd simply have left everything as it was.
theSlacker
Member
Holy shit, I'm laughing my ass off. How in the world did this go on for even as long as it did?
Just my way of expressing myself, I didn't mean it to downplay the severity of the situation at all.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
I know I'm an apologist/defender but I don't think ProSyndicate was trying to scam people. I think he just put up money to fund the site.
That's rich coming from him considering he's sponsored by G2A.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Didn't know that...
But I still have more respect for him than most youtubers.
That's the thing, I'm not a fan of most of his content, however he seems really grounded, humble, and modest. Plus he does a lot for charities etc too.
Don't think he's ever really done a "look at what I've got" video. I personally think they're tacky.
That does not absolve him of guilt.
Adorable.
dude....
Well, that would be a serious crime.
Daffy Duck
Member
Hahahaha, that look as if to say "OH SHIT WHAT AM I SHOWING HERE!"
He knows he fucked up there, lol.
But he was on the LLC filing. Did he say he was involved with the company?
lmao that face when he realises
Relaxed Muscle
Member
By openly stating "Hey look at this cool site we've just found" to try and use their reach online to get people to visit and part with their money on a site they own?
It's borderline scam to me.
If an owner of a casino posted videos of them posing as a customer winning large amounts of money, and asking people to go visit came into the spotlight, what would you class that as?
I think some people are letting their personal opinions of youtubers they like cloud their judgement.
Zombie James
Banned
Fucking scum.
LMFAO
Sleight of Jam
Banned
Don't be that guy.
Didn't know that...
But I still have more respect for him than most youtubers.
That's exactly what the fans of Tmartn are saying right now
Yea... Tomorrow I expect at the very least gaming sites and journalists to start pushing this story. Things are moving fast now.
One more thing. like H3 pointed out. This not only puts a negative light on the eSports scene, but also on partnerships and sponsorships.
If these guys just did a full disclosure and just did a tutorial of how their site worked I doubt any of this would be an issue.
But no. They decided to be scummy, shady, lie and didn't disclose anything. They misled their viewers and took advantage.
One more thing. like H3 pointed out. This not only puts a negative light on the eSports scene, but also on partnerships and sponsorships.
If these guys just did a full disclosure and just did a tutorial of how their site worked I doubt any of this would be an issue.
But no. They decided to be scummy, shady, lie and didn't disclose anything. They misled their viewers and took advantage.
I too have a similar mindset to you, but you can't look past the facts in this regard. He clearly did more than just fund it to some degree especially as he's listed as a VP on the incorporation form: http://i.imgur.com/wMdc8hf.png
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Oh when it all, it all falls down
I'm telling you all, it all falls down
Oh when it all, it all falls down
I'm telling you all, it all falls down
sheesh
Amazing. His reaction is priceless. That look of fear.
The stupid thing is, if they had done that in the first place, I can almost guarantee that they'd have still had a crap ton of people visiting their site and spending money.
I'd potentially argue that they may have had even more visitors, as their fans would likely want to support a site that their fave youtubers created.
What a ducking dumbass.
Didn't know that Tmartn actually co-owned Team Envyus as well. What the hell? Hastr0 has been on damage control as well on his twitter because of this.
Not sure if it's been posted, but official response from Team Envyus: https://teamenvyus.com/blogs/owners-blog/regarding-trevor-martin-and-csgolotto
Not sure if it's been posted, but official response from Team Envyus: https://teamenvyus.com/blogs/owners-blog/regarding-trevor-martin-and-csgolotto
He was almost certainly faking the bets / winnings.
Diablohead
Member
from excitement to "oops" within seconds.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
pewdiepie looking to take a few shots at his rivals
Hahaha
Phrozenflame500
Member
This all looks really definitive. I'm not sure how anyone could defend this.
ZoltanXerxes
Member
The amount of money he has doesn't matter. He's lost a lot of trust and damaged his reputation which is far worse than losing any monetary value, especially since he's a YouTuber. This also may cause his other affiliations to distance themselves from him.
Daffy Duck
Member
This is how he felt inside.....
Oh I know that, but with his millions even if he gave up YouTube, he wouldn't care, he could live the rest of his life of his millions he ha smade already and other investments he has going on.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
Mock me all you want, I only watch his vlogs I have no interest in CSGO Betting, Case Openings, etc..
He's not the type to flash his cash, he always stops for fans out and about, recently he did make a wish for a young fan who is fighting cancer who wanted to meet him and took them out the day after on a helicopter ride out of his own pocket, he buys cars and stuff for his family.
I do agree it is shady as shit to not disclose you are the owner of something you are trying to entice people into doing and he should be punished for it but I don't think he intentionally scammed people by rigging the site in his videos.
He's not the type to flash his cash, he always stops for fans out and about, recently he did make a wish for a young fan who is fighting cancer who wanted to meet him and took them out the day after on a helicopter ride out of his own pocket, he buys cars and stuff for his family.
I do agree it is shady as shit to not disclose you are the owner of something you are trying to entice people into doing and he should be punished for it but I don't think he intentionally scammed people by rigging the site in his videos.
You can see his life flash before his eyes.
So he won whilst streaming? I wonder what the odds of that are...
Their viewers would be more than happy to do it because of the cult following they have. And based on what I said earlier they've be able to absolve themselves if they disclosed it and only relegated to showing a tutorial of how to use the site.
But no. They acted like it was some random site they came across. And then this Martin guy tried to say he didn't own it but after some time he invested money in it. Like they've been lying and deceitful since day 1.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
edit: wrong thread
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
It's called a mask, and he was good at wearing his to cover his greedy shady side.
He does house tours, and posts videos of his cars?
That's flashing to me.
I know his fans will likely tell me that he's simply sharing what's going on in his life with his fans, but nah it's flashing his cash to me.
I think that's something people forget.
They assume because it's somebody on youtube they're just "normal", but there's big pr, and a public front that get's put on.
They're nothing without their followers so they need to keep them sweet.
Some of the very big youtube stars have management and media training, and are regularly advised on how best to deal with and maximise their potential.
LOL
Betting against himself, most likely.
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