Oh right 2DS doesn't release there that we know of, does it?
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Long queues of people waiting outside the stores for MH4 in Japan today
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andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Gonna take awhile to get some more black people to translate cha cha's words into something just minimally offensive.
frankie_baby
Member
Difference here being it was clear 3ds was the monhun system before bitsever launched
But isn't Japan where "3D will blind my children!" paranoia was at its greatest?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
The character DLC for SF X T (which was complete on disc and in a playable state at launch) Was held back to coincide with the Vita version 6 months later.
Not only that, the PS3/Vita versions had 5 extra characters. It didnt go down well as these characters were also present on the 360 disc.
Its not as imperative in Japan because 3ds' demographic spans the gamut, in the West it is concentrated around children.
frankie_baby
Member
Funnily enough the only medical opinions since the 3ds launched have been that it won't do kids eyes any harm at all and would be very useful for identifying existing eye problems earlier, I'm surprised Nintendo hasn't dropped the warnings
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
It just never makes sense that these games are produced and not just translated at the exact same time. Like whats the difference between Dragon's Dogma/Resident Evil production, and this? Probably would have broken down and got a 3DS this year if it had come.
8-4 not sounding sure on when on earth the translation is due didn't fill me with confidence since they did the last one (did they do 3 Ultimate G?).
8-4 not sounding sure on when on earth the translation is due didn't fill me with confidence since they did the last one (did they do 3 Ultimate G?).
frankie_baby
Member
There's little point rushing this out in the west seeing as the last one only came out 6 months ago
KillerTravis
Banned
natureboy post if you are okay.
meanwhile...at Sony HQ
Maybe I'll get heavily for berated for this post but for better or worse Monster Hunter going 3DS exclusive resulted in a ton of games in this genre debuting exclusively on PSP/PS Vita. The 3DS has no other games in this genre because Capcom cannot be touched on that system. Third parties and even Sony themselves saw that the market on Vita was open without Capcom:
I don't know if this was a good thing or bad thing for Sony. Obviously they lost a major game changing exclusive and I am in no way demeaning the massive achievement of Nintendo and Capcom, but Sony got a diverse set of new franchises which may or may not be as good as the original thing. Going forward, Sony, Gungho, Tecmo Koei and Namco Bandi have built the beginnings of something on Vita.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
I think its more of Sony approaching 3rd parties to have these games made to replace and compensate the loss of MH. Its more than a coincidence that these games are mostly advertised together in Japan.
Eh, 3ds would have 'blitzed' the competition with or without monster hunter. If this costed them a lot I'd call it waste.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
If the Vita had MH though its situation would be much better and would no doubt be getting more third party games. For instance SE has a heavy supporter of the PSP but look at their offerings at the Vita. Sony was really stupid to let their biggest exclusive on PSP go exclusive to the competition.
Really?
All the "clones" for vita you listed sold combined just a fraction of 3G port for 3DS.
It's obvious to know if it was a good or a bad thing for Sony.
Yeah, it would be better, ie not abysmal but I still don't think it would have been a serious threat(basically not what Nintendo should have worried about.)
Either way I thought the popular opinion is that it was Capcom.
Do you have the sales figures for these titles vs 3G?
Glass Rebel
Member
Toukiden - 207.745
Soul Sacrifice - 184'391
Ragnarok Odyssey - 65'138
Ragnarok Odyssey Ace - 40'507
Monster Hunter 3G - 1.589.804
Monster Hunter 3G BEST - 311.052
source: famitsu/enterbrain courtesy of GAF member Road
KillerTravis
Banned
I have a feeling God Eater 2 will do about 400k on Vita, but that still wouldn't make them close to 3G.
Interesting, thanks.
I liken this to a situation like Dreamworks and Pixar.
You get a Shrek or Kung Fu Panda every so often, they're okay to tide you over but when Pixar hits with Toy Story 3 blows everything out of the water.
Brofist
Member
Poor man's Starbucks
Get used to it. Vita's been fighting a losing battle against Sales AGE since its release.
so good..
Glass Rebel
Member
Well, you can't really blame SalesAge for that.
Father_Brain
Banned
Did I miss all the posts where people call Vita a crappy piece of hardware with no good games? Enough with the persecution complex, please.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
I don't play CoD or MH but MH seems to be the
much?
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
1.7M people standing in that queue?
So basically your opinion is useless?
I'm trying to think of other examples of a genre king moving platforms and its rivals staying put. I'm struggling.
Has become? It has been for a while now at this point lol.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
I'm an unbiased outside observer. As a game MH seems to be better. I'm open to the contrary.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Think so? I say MH4 won't even outsell AC:NL.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Sold out online?
Jawmuncher
Member
I'll never understand why they didn't do everything in their power to secure the IP.
Vita would be in a different position had they kept it.
Glass Rebel
Member
Maybe they did. Maybe Capcom wasn't interested.
Hey! I'll have you know that Antz was WAAYYYYY better than A Bug's Life! Darker, edgier, more mature, screw that colorful Pixar stuff, it's all about the darker, grungier Dreamworks stuff.
Yeah, it's easy to forget that MH3U came out in Japan in 2011, so they've been due. Not that I'm arguing against quicker localizations, but I understand why it's not a 2013 release in the west.
That1BlackGuy
Member
I'll agree with this 100%, Gods Eater Burst made me a huge fan of this genre (more so than Monster Hunter did at the time) so hopefully they decide to bring GE2 out to NA. I also plan on purchasing Soul Sacrifice, as well as Toukiden and RO:A if they come this way. Clones or not, I'm" happy to see the genre flourishing with so many diverse titles.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Exactly. Capcom must have thought that the 3DS was a better option following the sales of the DS. I'm sure they would have loved to have had the series on the DS, but obviously the hardware wasn't powerful enough.
The cost of development would more than likely be cheaper too.
Well that's good. It would otherwise seem premature to declare one much better than the other, in spite of there being no relation whatsoever.
Because, as much as we say this in a joking manner, the evidences are overwhelming to the idea that Sony simply does not care as much about their handhelds.
Nintendo did not only secured MH, they were willing to lose hundreds of millions of dollars, to post their first loss ever as a company, to make sure 3DS wouldn't fall in a downward spiral. Similarly, Sony lost billions to keep the PS3 afloat (money that would be enough to secure MH exclusivity for the next 10 years). Even Microsoft moneyhatted and compromised on their policies to get what they wanted from Japan in the Xbox 360. Heck, even now we're seeing Sony helping the very same Capcom develop a game for... ...the PS4.