It's not the Bat Signal. It was a series of smaller bat signals Bruce had all over his home. They were triggered when the real one turned on
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Matt Reeves on his take of Batman
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It's not the Bat Signal. It was a series of smaller bat signals Bruce had all over his home. They were triggered when the real one turned on
jack_package_200
Banned
Calendar Man as a serial killer could be fun.
Black Mask and Penguin having a mob war could be fun.
A version of Bane that is like the comic book version that isn't like Nolan's terrible version would be fun.
I would love to see Clayface or Manbat but they don't mesh with the noir style of the movie.
Black Mask and Penguin having a mob war could be fun.
A version of Bane that is like the comic book version that isn't like Nolan's terrible version would be fun.
I would love to see Clayface or Manbat but they don't mesh with the noir style of the movie.
Reeves temporarily leaving the negotiations, I think, spooked WB enough that he'll get to make the movie he wants
Inferno313
Banned
What does the quote in the OP have to do with either of these things?
The former is absolutely not happening. The latter probably won't either, if Wonder Woman is any indication.
Because he wants to do a noir-inspired detective story and the studios will want big action setpieces because they think that's all comic book movies are and should be. He has good intentions, but those intentions are going to be set aside pretty fast.
Because it isn't a particular interesting or all that note worthy take on the character.
Rest of the movie being the way it is, doesn't help.
I don't mind someone doing their own spin, just make it good or interesting.
Clayface would be great if he's like his early BTAS version and less "Brown Shapeshifting Hulk."
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Well if they'd just
CaviarMeths
Member
Ehh, Logan and Deadpool got sub-$100m budgets. Yes, they were both R, but I think there's a reasonable chance that this will be too. More importantly, Logan and Deadpool were both fantastic movies that made great use of smaller budgets. Batman is a character that I think could also benefit from a more restrictive budget and I know Matt Reeves knows how to spend money effectively. Dude made a movie about a giant monster attacking New York for $25m.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Lol how egotistical does anyone sound referring to themselves as doing it in a "Hitchcockian way"
...it doesn't sound egotistical at all to me? It sounds like they're trying to establish a "style" they want to follow
Yeah. WB is by far the one studio which is most director driven. I don't understand the assumption that they'll ruin it. Reeves has a great track record.
This.
Suicide Squad was the big exception, but they were spooked and scrambling after the BvS reception. Relying so entirely on Snyder's vision is what caused that in the first place.
Sounds great, I hope he gets as much freedom as Patty Jenkins got for Wonder Woman.
This is why I dislike comic-GAF. Begins and The Dark Knight are excellent movies. Hell, even Rises wasn't bad, just not as good as TDK and Begins. But on GAF, the Nolan films are considered terrible for some reason.
BadAss2961
Member
Best quest in Arkham Knight. Big contributor to the M rating.It is time for Professor Pyg.
Agreed
Inferno313
Banned
Having inspirations is egotistical?
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
The pre-WW DCEU movies were garbage, so I don't know why anyone would trust them yet.
PanSexual_Peacock
Member
Yea, I'm not really getting what people are talking about here. Look at the talent WB has assembled for their future DCEU movies. None of those guys would've signed up if it meant their vision being compromised. WB has a history of being director friendly.
Also, it was reported that Reeves didn't stop negotiations because of creative control. It was really because of pay.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
If Reeves had said "I'm better than Hitchcock" that'd be one thing.
But Reeves saying "I'd like my film to have the feel that Hitchcock movies often did" isn't egotistical. It's a stylistic aspiration. And it's a good one, too. A lot of popular directors in the past 30 or 40 years have had a lot of success studying that man's movies and cribbing great ideas from them.
Hell, Brian DePalma's entire career is basically attempting Hitchcock Karaoke.
Anyway: Reeves saying he's aiming for Hitchcock-level suspense and tone isn't a sign of ego. It's just shorthand for the sort of style he's thinking of applying to the film. Not a proclamation that he can do it better than Hitch did.
But Reeves saying "I'd like my film to have the feel that Hitchcock movies often did" isn't egotistical. It's a stylistic aspiration. And it's a good one, too. A lot of popular directors in the past 30 or 40 years have had a lot of success studying that man's movies and cribbing great ideas from them.
Hell, Brian DePalma's entire career is basically attempting Hitchcock Karaoke.
Anyway: Reeves saying he's aiming for Hitchcock-level suspense and tone isn't a sign of ego. It's just shorthand for the sort of style he's thinking of applying to the film. Not a proclamation that he can do it better than Hitch did.
That movie's pretty mediocre, and mildly entertaining at best, like everything Nolan has done since the great TDK.
Just my personal opinion. Don't get me lynched GAF, I know you like the dude.
He might get all the freedom from WB but my concern is how much freedom will he get from the DC Universe? Meaning this won't be like Nolan who was free to explore Batman and Batman alone.
All these new movies are part of the larger universe. Are they going to force this movie to include all the other characters? Is it a prequel? Another origin?
To me Batman works best as a standalone character, which is why I was always against the Justice League, even though I completely understand why WB had to go that route.
If Matt can craft a Batman movie where he isn't dealing with other superheroes or aliens, it will be excellent I think. He has the talent and I have loved everything he has worked on.
It isn't just comic-GAF. While I get why TDKR isn't liked as much as BB and TDK, critical and commercial response would tell you at the very least it's a good to great movie.
But on GAF there are only 2 ratings: BEST EVER or SUCKS!
Nolan made 3 excellent Batman movies but the minute people saw Snyder/Affleck Batman all we had was "omg finally someone will do Batman justice!" and after that mes now just the mention of "detective" is going to send everyone in a tizzy.
Now granted you can trust Matt Reeves so it is justified, but its shocking how "dead" Batman was as a movie property, how much the Nolan trilogy revived Batman (probably the most popular comic book character) and yet we still hear there hasn't been a good Batman movie.
I'd caution everyone who always cries that Batman isn't detective enough....Batman is a combination of a lot of cool elements. Not every comic or TAS episode had him solving puzzles as a detective. Not every iteration has him as a scary monster, or dark, or extremely violent, or as adult, or noir. Yet for the movies we want the 100 different elements of Batman rolled into 1. It isn't possible.
Hopefully this new movie focuses on the detective elements, is smaller scale in terms of the villain and threats, and brings something new to the table. Nolan nailed Batman's origins, his struggles, and his sadness. This needs to build on it but it doesn't have to be all of it at once.
Forget the source material altogether. These are movies where the characters endlessly state their every motivation out loud because the director believes the audience need to be treated as children. They have their strengths, but neither Begins or TDK are examples of exceptional filmmaking.
There is no defending Rises.
Fancyarcher
Member
Cool! I always wanted a true detective Batman film, and this sounds promising. Hopefully if Deathstroke is the antagonist, he's not the only villain. They should be tapping into other Batman villains anyway, Black Mask would be great.
Popular opinion on Neogaf is that sucks, I disagree (I think it's great), but it is what it is.
Popular opinion on Neogaf is that sucks, I disagree (I think it's great), but it is what it is.
Dont think they will, Ben Affleck already said he wanted to do a detective story for Batman and compared his take to Maltese Falcon when he was attached to direct.
This has a high probability of happening.
Indrid Cold1
Member
Jesus Christ some of the absolute shit posted in the first 40 or so responses to this thread. Calling them hot takes is an insult to terrible opinions.
Suicide Squad (Trailer Company editors) says otherwise.
Nolan had complete freedom.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
And the It situation with Cary Fukunaga.
jack_package_200
Banned
Didn't Cary want to include the infamous orgy scene from the novel?
I remember reading that somewhere
PanSexual_Peacock
Member
So one movie?
MHWilliams
Member
"in that theyre both characters who are tortured and trying to sort of grapple within themselves to find the way to do the right thing in a very imperfect and, to some degree, corrupt world."
Looking forward to it.
Now get me someone who understands Superman.
Looking forward to it.
Now get me someone who understands Superman.
WB is a different studio now, and directors like Eastwood, Nolan, and Affleck are basically grandfathered in.
Marvel
could never
Yup.
"in that theyre both characters who are tortured and trying to sort of grapple within themselves to find the way to do the right thing in a very imperfect and, to some degree, corrupt world."
Looking forward to it.
Now get me someone who understands Superman.
That description honestly sounds like Zack Snyder's take on Superman.
Maybe, maybe more but that's the one who had the spotlight for getting messed up after what happened with BvS.
jack_package_200
Banned
I HATE that he wants to stop being Batman. I know its Nolan's interpretation but come the fuck on.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Looking forward to this, especially after Dawn, what a surprisingly great movie that was.
Now, let's get Matt #2 (Vaughn) on the Man of Steel sequel and we're set.
Now, let's get Matt #2 (Vaughn) on the Man of Steel sequel and we're set.
PanSexual_Peacock
Member
One fuck-up doesn't erase history.
FreshCakes
Banned
But at the same time, Wan established a name for himself and Reeves has a couple of acclaimed blockbusters under his belt.