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AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Unsurprising. Incredible tech but nobody was EVER going to make real games in it and be tied down in that way when they could learn any manner of other software and be unbound.
I remember a certain somebody on here a few years ago that was 100% convinced it was going to be the future of game development. What a kook.
I remember a certain somebody on here a few years ago that was 100% convinced it was going to be the future of game development. What a kook.
No. They said that they are not working on Dreams 2 or anything Dreams related
Umbasaborne
Banned
Its a shame, but its no mystery this game was never gonna light up the charts
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Honestly i was expecting a PC and PS5 versions...feels like they are ending this without giving it a proper change, IMO.
Or probably with Unreal Engine 5 Sony realized this is useless as a tool.
Or probably with Unreal Engine 5 Sony realized this is useless as a tool.
ProtoByte
Member
Such a waste of time, this game was. Little Big Planet is one thing, but Dreams was just a bad idea from the outset. 98% of gamers do not want to buy games to be developers.
Media Molecule would be much better off making 3D platformers reminiscent of the PS2-era. Here's hoping their next project is 4+ years away.
Media Molecule would be much better off making 3D platformers reminiscent of the PS2-era. Here's hoping their next project is 4+ years away.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Absolutely incredible achievement in programming. Genius stuff, just not going to set the world on fire. Which is a shame. Props to Sony to continue to fund them.
Look forward to what they do next
Look forward to what they do next
Varteras
Gold Member
Not surprised. I heard that MM was working on a multiplayer game. They have been expanding. I seem to recall an interview where they said they're up to 100 staff, which would be double from where they were for a while. I just don't think they wanted to spend any more time and resources on something that just never got big enough. They probably don't see a PC version being worth the effort. They tried for 3 years, after spending an entire generation making it. But after the utter failure that was Project Spark, I'm surprised they thought they had a better idea. They would have been much better off making an actual live service game with a creative mode added.
Unfortunate news. Also unsurprising this didn't get a PC release (SONY likely don't want the headache) but still unfortunate.
Except people have and likely will continue to. Its only limitation is the inability to create a game that lives outside DREAMS.
. . .as a tool to get folks creating or interested in game design it has been wildly successful if you ask me. . . and nobody did.
Except people have and likely will continue to. Its only limitation is the inability to create a game that lives outside DREAMS.
. . .as a tool to get folks creating or interested in game design it has been wildly successful if you ask me. . . and nobody did.
Spaceman292
Banned
I feel like this game never actually got released
bitbydeath
Member
Hopefully that means their next title isn’t too far off.
Absolutely Devastated.
Ive put in 1000+ hrs on my projects and while progress is slow they where
nudging closer and closer to completion. Now with this announcment they have basicly gutted any chance of me getting anyone to play them.
Shit was never properly supported bye Sony. We just needed a free to download Dreams "Player" app available on all PS4/PS5 systems and they could have saved it. Goddamit I atleast want the 3D Exporter we where promised years ago. They didnt even include 2 Player shared Screen support.
Ive put in 1000+ hrs on my projects and while progress is slow they where
nudging closer and closer to completion. Now with this announcment they have basicly gutted any chance of me getting anyone to play them.
Shit was never properly supported bye Sony. We just needed a free to download Dreams "Player" app available on all PS4/PS5 systems and they could have saved it. Goddamit I atleast want the 3D Exporter we where promised years ago. They didnt even include 2 Player shared Screen support.
Markio128
Member
That’s a shame, but understandable. I tried to use Dreams myself, but I found it a little too cumbersome and eventually lost patience with it - though, I did enjoy the music creator.
Some of the stuff that talented creators made though was incredible.
I’m hoping they release something similar, but a lot simpler for us mere mortals. I remember ‘Shoot Em Up Construction Kit (SEUCK)’ was amazing back in the day, on the Amiga. Me and a mate made several games that were fun to create and play, including a PACMAN remake.
Some of the stuff that talented creators made though was incredible.
I’m hoping they release something similar, but a lot simpler for us mere mortals. I remember ‘Shoot Em Up Construction Kit (SEUCK)’ was amazing back in the day, on the Amiga. Me and a mate made several games that were fun to create and play, including a PACMAN remake.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
This, it should've been the first PS game to hit PC. People on PC could do wonders with it. Also if they added monetization it would work just like Fortnite upcoming update.
SkylineRKR
Member
Agreed. And LBP as a platform game I could never enjoy. Its gameplay was shit compared to something like Rayman Origins. And created content, well, 90% is trash, 5% is trophy boost trash, and perhaps 5% is genuinely good. But I never really saw the appeal to ape Mario Bros levels; just play Mario bros.
Zekra Dezivad
Member
Amazing tool, they nailed the whole concept of creating games with a game. It's incredibly powerful and let you make so many cool things that is beyond the comprehension of the standard gaming guy. Great great comminity, reaching, supportive, friendly. I never play online games due to the sheer amount of crazy toxic people, but for Dreams they created a world that maybe attract nice people.
I've made friends online, something that didn't happen in the last two generations, I've met incredibly nice guys. Maybe MM just put that intellectual barrier with that concept of create games that idiots just saw the game and ran away lol
People created so many incredible little games, experiences, cinematics, animations, scenarios... so much talent. It's a shame that it didn't got a second life on PS5. ANd also they didn't give you a simple way to show your creation outside Dreams. Also it was very hard to find creations, I believe filters and the algorithm are still a little mess. If you are not lucky very few people will actually get to play your creation and that will definitely hamper your desire to create more.
VR support was incredible, they sure didn't care about being niche as long as something is cool.
A true masterpiece. Niche but among the best games of the last generation since quality is not about sales.
I've made friends online, something that didn't happen in the last two generations, I've met incredibly nice guys. Maybe MM just put that intellectual barrier with that concept of create games that idiots just saw the game and ran away lol
People created so many incredible little games, experiences, cinematics, animations, scenarios... so much talent. It's a shame that it didn't got a second life on PS5. ANd also they didn't give you a simple way to show your creation outside Dreams. Also it was very hard to find creations, I believe filters and the algorithm are still a little mess. If you are not lucky very few people will actually get to play your creation and that will definitely hamper your desire to create more.
VR support was incredible, they sure didn't care about being niche as long as something is cool.
A true masterpiece. Niche but among the best games of the last generation since quality is not about sales.
Hobbygaming
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A new platformer or Tearaway 2 would be my wish
Bragr
Banned
One of the most ambitious projects in modern gaming. They pushed this for years on social media with challenges and award shows, I can't recall any developer having this kind of media push with their game before.
I played this a decent amount, I made some games, and have been blown away by what's on offer. I love Dreams. But it's also plain to see that it's too specialized of a product, it takes too much to make a game.
I played this a decent amount, I made some games, and have been blown away by what's on offer. I love Dreams. But it's also plain to see that it's too specialized of a product, it takes too much to make a game.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Really bad move Sony. The game has so much unrealized potential. The fact that you didn't try to put this on multiple platforms is sad. Imagine if it had PC, Xbox crossplay? Heck, even a PS5 version, PS VR2 support or multiplayer.....
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diffusionx
Gold Member
How much money and time did Sony waste on this stupid vanity project that went nowhere? Absolutely baffling, yet MM still gets all this praise and benefit of the doubt. time to shut them down and divert the resources elsewhere imo.
ReBurn
Gold Member
They said they had a 10 year vision. They didn't say they were going to support it for 10 years.
Why? They were having fun creating/playing and their creation is still there to play, edit, or create new. Some of them even got jobs in the industry. Not doing any more game updates doesnt mean much. It's not like they expected updates in perpetuity to begin with.
Yoboman
Member
Ridiculous
Portugeezer
Member
Dreams should have been similar to Astro Bot or something, free to every PS console. They could have monetised stuff and it would have been a nice gateway into game development for kids who don't have gaming PC's.
diffusionx
Gold Member
All they had to do was release a “dreams viewer” that let people play stuff made in the game for free. Like imagine if you needed to buy a compiler to play PC games lol.
it’s not ridiculous. This thing went absolutely nowhere and it was clearly just MM, as they say, having a wank. I think tear away is actually an extraordinary game but it’s a decade old at this point. It’s weird that they shut down perfectly functional studios like Zipper and Japan Studio (!) and spent billions on Bungie while keeping this place open.
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ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
It seems no one wants to create games for free(mildshock gif).
I have the game and even the highly praised "dreams" were not that good, shovelware stuff. They should release it on Pc and allow creators to earn money out of their creations.
I have the game and even the highly praised "dreams" were not that good, shovelware stuff. They should release it on Pc and allow creators to earn money out of their creations.
01011001
Banned
in a world where Roblox and Fortnite Creative exist, something like Dreams simply has no purpose.
not only are these other examples multiplatform, but also you can actually make money in Roblox, and those are free to play, which means your audience isn't limited to people who buy the game on the single ecosystem it is available.
not only are these other examples multiplatform, but also you can actually make money in Roblox, and those are free to play, which means your audience isn't limited to people who buy the game on the single ecosystem it is available.
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Carter Burke
Member
WTF?
Jim Ryan is a fucking clown. Dreams deservers a PS5/PC port and PSVR2 features...
This is a shame.
Jim Ryan is a fucking clown. Dreams deservers a PS5/PC port and PSVR2 features...
This is a shame.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Wasted potential.
Interfectum
Member
The game isn't salvageable. It's dead. No amount of porting will fix it... especially in a world where Fortnite and Roblox exist, not to mention programs like Unity and Godot.
