TheBlueBomber
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Eh, looks fine to me lol
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Mevius: Final Fantasy screenshots [Up: more screens and art]
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I am perfectly happy and all for sexualizing guys. But IMO this outfit just "looks" hideous, and not because it shows off skin. It is just aesthetically not pleasing and doesn't convey "sexy" to me.
That said, it's a personal choice and if it is something that entices women or others, then enjoy.
That said, it's a personal choice and if it is something that entices women or others, then enjoy.
I am perfectly happy and all for sexualizing guys. But IMO this outfit just "looks" hideous, and not because it shows off skin. It is just aesthetically not pleasing and doesn't convey "sexy" to me.
That said, it's a personal choice and if it is something that entices women or others, then enjoy.
I never got the sexy vibe from this character...
I think they're going for 'cool' here...
Its FF..There will probably be zero explicit content here.
I don't know what people are expecting here.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
No idea.
All I know is some people get incensed when males aren't portrayed as square-jawed muscular manly men.
Any traits that a male character has that can be traditionally found in female characters is seen as a negative. And any instance of their body being used for something other than emphasizing power is also seen as a negative like in the first few screenshots shown in the OP.
It seems like some want to restrict the traditional trait exchange to only one direction. That is to say male --> female can be fine to them but female --> male is not.
I have not played the game.... it was just an educated guess. LOL
UnluckyKate
Member
So it's male version of Bayonetta design ?
Environement arts are gorgeous
Environement arts are gorgeous
Chinpoko_Master
Member
This looks pretty amazing for a mobile game. They definitely have my interest now.
That main character design though... lmao terrible.
That main character design though... lmao terrible.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
But he's empowering in the clothes he's wearing!!
Sorry for my Photoshop-antiskills, but I made a (bit lazy) fem-edit out of curiosity...
Personally I noticed how normal the female version seems to me (actually being rather tame due to lack of cleavage),
because such a design would still be rather common for a female char,
whilest the male version still needs getting used to, as it's (still) a more uncommon design;
the last male mainchar I can remember who showed more skin was Ashley Riot (and his nice... pants... ) from Vagrant Story.
Personally I noticed how normal the female version seems to me (actually being rather tame due to lack of cleavage),
because such a design would still be rather common for a female char,
whilest the male version still needs getting used to, as it's (still) a more uncommon design;
the last male mainchar I can remember who showed more skin was Ashley Riot (and his nice... pants...
) from Vagrant Story.Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
You are better than to make it an Us Vs. Them sorta deal by agreeing with the statement.
The problem is that it is just a shitty design period. Clothing wise. As nothing jives together.
Where as this (MC from Shining Resonance) that Im actually playing currently has an "effeminate" male character which I have zero issues with as the characters outfit design isnt ugly as sin.
Though the game has the idiotic female armor type of design for one of the female protagonists but thats another topic, but since its artwork by tony taka that really shouldnt surprise anyone.
Hell even a good portion of the male MCs from the Tales series could be considered "effeminate" but dont get the hate this POS design does.
Bottom line is this character has an ugly as fuck outfit which is the issue.
Of course it is, I'm not disagreeing. The designs are bullshit. I just don't think it's fair to assume that people calling out this design are totally okay with the (awful) female equivalents.
Lightning looked ridiculous too in her BDSM outfit from LR.
How's it neat? This isn't solving the problem, it's making it worse. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
A good portion of the outfits were shit in LR reason being is that it pretty much destroyed the "stoic" character she was originally made out to be with the first title. Instead got turned into a Barbie doll for lonely Toriyama.
HolyBaikal
Banned
I don't see what's wrong with sexualization. The things I think are wrong with the sexualization of women in the industry is how gendered it is. It's very one-sided.
It's okay for characters to be sexualized sometimes.
I don't think that the answer to the fact that female characters being oversexualized is to sexualize male characters just as much. But I do think it's okay to sexualize characters sometimes.
And I think it's sad that people tend to sexualize female characters, but not male characters as much...
Relaxed Muscle
Member
More sexualized men are great, but I agree that the clothes/armor design are just fugly.
"it feels like i'm wearing nothing at all"
"it feels like i'm wearing nothing at all"
OmegaSmash
Member
Frankly, the armor is what breaks the whole design and makes it ugly.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
The post I was responding to was concerned with effeminate features in male characters, not the outfit specifically. The people I'm talking about would hate the character you posted as well regardless of how much or how little clothing he's wearing. There are people who are uncomfortable with depictions of men that do not align with what they believe men are supposed to be or look like.
It's not an uncommon criticism levied at Japanese games with male protagonists/characters.
Hours Left
Member
This is how I feel. Bring on the sexy "armor" dudes, but nicely designed ones, thanks.
(Though for me, it's more the hideous tattoos than the armor that ruin this design.)
Spacejaws
Member
I thought the idea was not stop oversexualising games (which is insulting to me that some company thinks I need to see skin and kinky women before I'll buy their game. There's more to me than that!) not just to equally sexualize everything.
In the end the armour looks guf. And I dont think I'll enjoy staring at some dudes crack for 10+ hours of dungeon crawl.
Am out.
In the end the armour looks guf. And I dont think I'll enjoy staring at some dudes crack for 10+ hours of dungeon crawl.
Am out.
Yes, it is. It's tacky as hell and we should be asking for better from a developer as prominent as Square.
It is sad, which is why we should stop fucking doing it. Throwing men into stupid looking bondage outfits isn't progress, it's more of the same problem.
It is ok for characters to be sexualized when sex is a part of their character. Nobody's complaining about EVA showing her cleavage because that's part of who she is and plays into her role in the plot. Shit like this though? Do you think Ronald McFantasy is just really into bondage or something? Or maybe he escaped some dominatrix dungeon and that's why he looks like he does?
JasonUresti
Member
That's just a terrible outfit design, I can't see that looking good on anyone of any body type. Also hits the dumb idea box of wearing heavy armor everywhere but the head and the adds in the torso as well.
OK, it's a bad design. Sometimes that's all it is.
Benzychenz
Member
I thought that was a woman until I read the comments x_x
Honey Bunny
Member
It all looks a lot like those Korean MMOs.
It's a character design. Character design can stem from the desire to appeal to a certain audience, the personal tastes of a designer, the tone of a game, and from a number of other places. Claiming that this design is beyond the pale because it doesn't pass this specific metric for characterization or whatever inherently narrows the entire scope of design, and far more than is warranted. Your idea of "tackiness" is fine, but it's also ridiculous to impose it like a golden standard.
I actually think it's pretty nice to see this sort of male sexualization - the kind with no pretense of also functioning as some sort of power fantasy. It's not merely that I would like to see sexualization equalized across both genders. That's one way to make the industry more inclusive, but more to the point, I think attacking this rigid notion of masculinity is a more powerful way to accomplish that goal.
Banana Aeon
Member
If it's a female design, it's actually worse.
thetrin
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Hahaha, everyone starts freaking out the minute it's a dude in skimpy armor.
I dunno, I like the style. Looks very heroic in a superhero/fantasy sort of way. I'm into it.
Skimpy armor for everyone!
I dunno, I like the style. Looks very heroic in a superhero/fantasy sort of way. I'm into it.
Skimpy armor for everyone!
veloxStrix
Banned
I'm not sure why this guy is wearing an apron. I mean, just take his damn shirt thing off. It looks fucking weird. I'd prefer to see nipples than feel the confusion over his outfit choice.
Honestly, I know characters in this style are going to be "sexualized", but this isn't sexy at all! D<
Honestly, I know characters in this style are going to be "sexualized", but this isn't sexy at all! D<
Banana Aeon
Member
This isn't sexy though. It's too goofy looking to be sexy or cool.
Eric the Red
Member
Since there is often confusion in sexualized game character threads, here's a demonstration of the difference between the typical male power fantasy character designs that are abundant and one that's actually sexualized in the way female character often are. Just need some doa-style ballsack physics and my nightmare is complete.
Zoe
Member
Those female designs are actually grounded in fashion. This one is grounded in shit.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
mmh, multiple costumes?
Zoe
Member
The bodysuit appears to be the base outfit. The rest is customizable.
To Far Away Times
Member
Fan service for the ladies I guess. I know FF does have a fairly large female audience.
Well, the body structure...
Canis lupus
Member
As far as terrible character designs go, SE never fails to impress.
KimonoNoNo
Member
Godamn, I think he looks as hilarious as fuck.
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Deleted member 20920
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I'm positive the problem is how there's huge imposing thigh guards, then this
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It's nsfw so it cannot be posted, but it's a clear example of that tweet with a ninja dressed like a woman with his dingaling wrapped in white tape.
The butt part of the costume is probably the worst part of the whole design. So weird...
Perhaps different because of the job system.
This is not good design. He still looks passable in the key visual but in-game wise it's just bad.