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Microsoft responds - "Why the PS4 is outselling the Xbox One".
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I think hes recruited Agent Yusef
Anyway I wish we had an update on how many of these tier 2 countries have easy accesss to the XO at RRP - only seen snippets but I get the impression that the official launch near enough doesnt matter and if you wanted a XO at a decent price you could have easily sourced one...
ps3ud0 8)
You mean like Japan, where the 360 is outsold by the PSP by a factor of 10?
SmokedMeat
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Oh yeah, just wait until the X1 enters the Japanese market. Goodbye 2 million+ sales lead Sony, it's over.
Phoenician_Viking
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Unreal lol.
AHA-Lambda
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Wow at that 360 Ps3 comment. I vehemently disagree.
Sephiroth_VII
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First of all, read this:
Now, on top of that, Xbox has historically sold poorly in pretty much every single Tier 2 country. Arguing that launching there is going to close the gap completely is illogical.
The are partners after all. Good cop, bad cop.
Microsoft: Next-gen console sales could hit 1 billion
Here is the article. I will re-read it in case I am making a mistake.
They launched the Xbox One in all the big markets to push ahead and keep a steady supply of stock. Didn´t really work and now the smaller markets are going to fix the gap? Not going to happen, the recent change are good but not that good (yet).
And as for 360 owners not upgrading, i got a PS3 about a year ago and haven´t touched my 360 since. Will upgrade to PS4 when there is a bigger library in 2015/2016.
And as for 360 owners not upgrading, i got a PS3 about a year ago and haven´t touched my 360 since. Will upgrade to PS4 when there is a bigger library in 2015/2016.
oconnomiyaki
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Hahaha, oh wow. I'm willing to bet that combined they don't even make 1/10 of that.
Just after I get done commending these guys for making some big moves they go and say this shit. Sony is outselling the Xbox brand because their vision for Playstation payed off and never bragged publicly about anti-consumer policies like Microsoft did.
Also, in regards to Playstation being in more markets? Microsoft, you imposed that tier bullshit on yourself.
Also, in regards to Playstation being in more markets? Microsoft, you imposed that tier bullshit on yourself.
Sephiroth_VII
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But isn't that what executives are for? Taking decisions and issuing statements on behalf of the company they work for?
mysteriousmage09
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I don't think MS is capable of doing something right and not making a dumb ass statement directly after.
Of all the people that have been allowed to talk about the Xbox One and the Xbox Brand in the last 18 months, he has by far been the worst and said some of the stupidest things all while looking like he will try and sell me an old car.
Just have Spencer be the only one allowed to talk about anything related to the product at all and watch Xbox shine.
Just have Spencer be the only one allowed to talk about anything related to the product at all and watch Xbox shine.
MS is gonna sell millions of consoles in China. MILLIONS. Just you wait.
We are not talking about the coffe boy.
Agreed.
Psycho_Mantis
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Still funny.
It can be looked at as "spinning it their way" however the fact remains the 360 was a resounding success that the ps3 wasn't.
It is correct that there is a huge untapped demographic of current 360 owners (how many millions I don't know) that will soon make the "jump ahead" (lol couldn't resist) to either the XB1 or the 4, and if at that time the XB1 is the console choice of the majority of those x millions of users that has the potential to be a huge swing in sales.
I know that all of this is pure speculation, but it's not without basis or merritt.
Exploratory
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Please Medhi somewhere else he doesn't seen to have a good grasp on...well anything.
LiquidMetal14
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They think they've done some good and then spit this out.
Always-honest
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Nope. You just made a couple of really bad decisions MS. Or actually, more than a couple.
Just... wow. Has there even been a billion consoles sold to date? I.E in the 30+ years home consoles have been sold for.
krypt0nian
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Every time I think we're done, total fuck ups like this make me realize how much Sony and Microsoft have traded position in the market. And then I recall that all but one of my friends have moved from 360 to PS4 because of this shit.
Hold on to Spencer, folks. Promised land and all that.
Hold on to Spencer, folks. Promised land and all that.
No. We all know executives can spout some real BS. They're working for a company at the end of the day, a company which is trying to make money. They're employed by someone else. They're basically covering their own rears. Who knows what they say when they're outside of a work environment. Obviously not everyone's like that and some people really do get passionate about a company they work for, but many don't.
Jesus. That is just embarrassing. Looks like something you'd see in the comments of a youtube video.
Half of the people I play with on PS4 were primarily 360 guys, and the XB1's prospects in most of those markets are, shall we say, dire.
Nemesis121
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People can hate it but that was clever for MS..
figadapaura
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Hahaha sure sure.
Obviously they're waiting to destroy Sony in Japan with all those unhappy PS3 owners.
fluffydelusions
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Someone shop kaz and yusuf's head on this lol
More like Good Cop, Mall Cop.
Ha ha, I knew I was gonna cringe at what they say.
First reason is plausible I suppose, but I doubt even if they release there they will outsell PS4, most of those countries seem PS countries, could change of course, have to wait and see,
Second reason....Ha ha. I have to give it to them, creative way of twisting things, ha ha, but theres a lot wrong with that, ha ha. Hes presumming people only upgrade to PS4 from PS3. I bet a lot of the PS4 audience is from the 360, I know a lot of people who changed from 360 to PS4 anyway. Shocker at MS! Seems people are actually not happy with Xbox overall in this case?!
If we pressume everyone who got an X1 was from 360, 3/4 million+ people own X1 right? Quite a lot of people who are suddenly "Not happy" with 360. Of course thats the only reason people upgrade according to MS.
MS are just...doing anything other than admit they made a mistake. Just why I'm liking Sony a lot atm, they come across as more open/honest to me. Like they look back at PS3 and say how they made a lot of mistakes at the beginning. For some reason, companies think its a bad idea to admit you make mistakes, where in fact, I at least, just find it more annoying where you BS around you making a mistake and use a BS excuse.
First reason is plausible I suppose, but I doubt even if they release there they will outsell PS4, most of those countries seem PS countries, could change of course, have to wait and see,
Second reason....Ha ha. I have to give it to them, creative way of twisting things, ha ha, but theres a lot wrong with that, ha ha. Hes presumming people only upgrade to PS4 from PS3. I bet a lot of the PS4 audience is from the 360, I know a lot of people who changed from 360 to PS4 anyway. Shocker at MS! Seems people are actually not happy with Xbox overall in this case?!
If we pressume everyone who got an X1 was from 360, 3/4 million+ people own X1 right? Quite a lot of people who are suddenly "Not happy" with 360. Of course thats the only reason people upgrade according to MS.
MS are just...doing anything other than admit they made a mistake. Just why I'm liking Sony a lot atm, they come across as more open/honest to me. Like they look back at PS3 and say how they made a lot of mistakes at the beginning. For some reason, companies think its a bad idea to admit you make mistakes, where in fact, I at least, just find it more annoying where you BS around you making a mistake and use a BS excuse.
Haha oh wow. That's some Ken 'Chemical Ali' Kutaragi bullshit spin.
You've already launched in the relevant territories that will make a splash for you. The territories you haven't already launched in are Playstationland and you've ensured that by launching late with an inferior value proposition.
Tier 2 countries have already been supplied with Xbox One units since the holidays from territories you've failed to sell units in. (In Norway brick and mortar stores have been getting surplus units from Germany for a long time)
Playstation 3 is still this year being supported with some of the best games this generation.
Xbox 360 is pretty much dead as far as exclusive support goes and you need a subscription to use most of its media functionality.
Sony is not even able to sate global demand for The PS4. Xbox Ones are being shipped abroad by reselleres because they can't get them off shelves.
You've already launched in the relevant territories that will make a splash for you. The territories you haven't already launched in are Playstationland and you've ensured that by launching late with an inferior value proposition.
Tier 2 countries have already been supplied with Xbox One units since the holidays from territories you've failed to sell units in. (In Norway brick and mortar stores have been getting surplus units from Germany for a long time)
Playstation 3 is still this year being supported with some of the best games this generation.
Xbox 360 is pretty much dead as far as exclusive support goes and you need a subscription to use most of its media functionality.
Sony is not even able to sate global demand for The PS4. Xbox Ones are being shipped abroad by reselleres because they can't get them off shelves.
Impeccable
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I hope he's close with Don Mattrick because he's going to need a job at Zynga soon.
digoutyoursoul
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Sometimes it's best to say fuck all
Cthulhu_Steev
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Yusuf Mehdi saying this on Monday was the official response.
No, it is absolutely without basis, or me(r)rit(t).
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