rm082e
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For all of about 2 years. No one cared by the time the XO came out.
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Microsoft sending people surveys about handheld consoles
- Thread starter Bernoulli
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For all of about 2 years. No one cared by the time the XO came out.
ManaByte
Gold Member
They'd rather have a Windows handheld then port their services to Linux.
rm082e
Member
Nobody cares about the Windows store. They tried to get PC players to buy games there in the past. Gears 4 and a few others were exclusive to it when they launched. PC players ignored those games because they weren't on Steam. MS eventually caved and put most of their stuff on Steam. Trying to go back to that won't work.
Jinzo Prime
Member
They are writing the Xbox Series X|S off as a failure and moving on.
FalsettoVibe
Member
I hybrid console is the smartest thing MS can do. Sony would be wise to do the same. Especially with their PSSR tech.
Heaven Angel
Member
I hope it doesn't happen, too many handheld already in the market. Can they please focus on making games for once.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
How would that work? "Yes Gabe, we're going to undercut your store, any probs there?"
Unknown?
Member
The key part of your statement is that last part. They abandoned their market to focus all their eggs in one basket. I can guarantee you there is a percentage of their market that doesn't care about handhelds so if they go all in on a handheld or even hybrid, you lose that percentage.
I don't see an Xbox handheld doing better than even the Series consoles.
DragonNCM
Member
The point is you can install everything you have in your PC library+gamepass. I don't think they will only make this for gamepass.
Also I will appreciate if spec are close to Series S & option so you can connect it to TV !!!
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Gee I wonder why they want to make a handheld...
News - PS5 and Xbox largely unpopular with Gen Z in Japan, survey shows
A 2023 survey on the gaming habits of Japanese youths has recently garnered attention on social media, as it indicates that a majority of Gen Z do not own or use a PS5 or Xbox. The report, published by SHIBUYA109 Entertainment, compiles data obtained through web surveys and interviews...www.neogaf.com
Xbox will be the choice of a new generation.
Playstation is for bitter old men.
I've got both, I'm bitter and immature.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
?? MS has both Xbox and PC in their gaming division. There is nothing preventing them from releasing a Windows handheld PC and/or a Xbox handheld.
Zheph
Member
You think they gonna release something that expensive?
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Not on Deck.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Give people what they want*
*except high quality games
*except high quality games
Punished Miku
Member
If its basically a PC. It'll have almost every game.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Badlucktroll
Member
Topher
Gold Member
It wouldn't work but doesn't really matter if Gabe has a problem with it or not. Steam Deck is an open platform. Either way, it doesn't make a lot of sense for Microsoft to compete with a store on Steam Deck where Microsoft sells games. A handheld dedicated to Xbox/Windows along with other stores and an UI created specifically for gaming would appeal to a lot of people who bought Rog Ally and Lenovo Legion Go. In fact, I'd expect Microsoft would welcome other manufacturers to use that OS on their handhelds as well. Valve has been talking about doing that very thing with Steam OS for quite a while, but they better get moving or MS will beat them to the punch.
March Climber
Member
If this happens it might be my biggest ‘I called it!’ moment on this forum.
Vyse
Gold Member
My thoughts as well.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
The sanest take by far. Keystone was even teased by Phil's Shelf (TM) before it was cancelled.
Topher
Gold Member
I do. I think the days of Microsoft subsidizing hardware is pretty much over. So create hardware that appeals to both console and PC gamers and you've expanded your hardware reach quite a bit. Imagine XSX as a 1080p 60fps PC for around $999. That falls in line with PC gamers wanting the 3060/4060 series GPUs that are so popular according to Steam surveys.
DragonNCM
Member
I think it will be in lane of 700-800$
King Dazzar
Member
I assumed the handheld would come much sooner than 2 years. But if they're only just now asking for feedback... I guess it launches near to the new UI/steam Xbox next gen console.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Even if that's the case, it doesn't matter since the game is also coming to PC. Also, you can't sell shit without putting together a good marketing campaign and especially a game like Hellblade.
Say what you will about The Callisto Protocol, but this game had great if not exceptional marketing campaign leading up to launch. The game is going to flop, hard, and no amount of praise from ''critics'' will change that. But I guess MS doesn't give a fuck anymore.
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Unknown?
Member
This. If it's a good product and PC based not Xbox, it might get a small audience. If it's just Xbox lite to compliment their next console like the Series S, doesn't seem like a bright future.
Jinzo Prime
Member
Xbox Series X|S OS is a hypervisor based operating system running on Windows Core. They could theoretically port all Xbox games to Windows, each game virtualized since they already do so on Xbox consoles.
Microsoft already did the hard work back in 2015, when they updaded the core to real Windows 10. So they wouldn't even need Xbox as a closed system anymore, they could just use Windows 11 or an optimized variant thereof and merge Xbox and Windows game libraries pretty seamlessly.
While I agree Move was a misstep, it eventually led to PSVR 1 controller use and morphed into PSVR 2 controllers.
Like how the Vita back swipe pad basically became DS4 and Dual Sense controller swipe pads.
Punished Miku
Member
Hellblade is really a hardcore gamer product. Everyone already knows about it in the target market. The game is $50, so it probably helps to keep costs down by not blowing money on marketing. Palworld and Helldivers got virtually no marketing.
It makes sense to spend on more casual stuff like Call of Duty, Gamepass, Starfield, etc. Stuff where theoretically someone hasn't heard of it and it could appeal to them. A lot of MS marketing efforts are based around social media, previews, events. Spending for things like cable TV commercials is pretty dated. We did see Senua on the giant ass dome in Vegas though.
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djjinx2
Member
He knows, he definitely knowsI think Phil literally said it all openly.
King Dazzar
Member
It would be even more interesting if MS acquired Valve prior to release... no shooting the messenger now
Topher
Gold Member
A possible threat to windows/PC gaming being neutralised.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
There's not even most basic stuff such as extensive press kit with assets and such, which don't cost a lot of money and can be done in like an hour or so.
Their whole marketing strategy is complete shit imho, as well as not letting things go and stop investing into pointless consoles nobody is buying or care about. I mean, there must be someone to keep Sony in line cuz it could be much and much worse without MS and Xbox, but that's about the only excuse I can think of as to why we even need Xbox consoles.
Moriarty1889
Member
You’re exactly right. Theses idiots running Xbox give fuck all about games. They chase every other thing under the sun except trying to make new games for the console. More controllers than games and now more worried about a survey for a handheld. They should be marketing their games starting with Hellblade 2 as you said but instead they rather not say shite. Pitiful doesn’t even begin to describe how low the Xbox brand has fallen under that clown Phil Spencer.
Punished Miku
Member
I don't think anyone is going to keep Sony in line but their own consumers at this point. MS tried to offer cheaper options for hardware and games but it wasn't appealing to people. Competition keeping someone in line really only works if the consumers are responsive to having multiple options. I think a lot of Sony gamers just want Sony to have it all in the high end console space, and they'll get their wish.
Unknown?
Member
They(MS) also tried to double the price of Gold subscriptions.
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Punished Miku
Member
Sure, and that was shit. Having multiple consoles has benefited everyone at various points throughout the last few generations. PS+ had free online for a while and started the whole gaming sub free games thing which was a great value.
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
Like I said back in Aug or so, MS tired of going head to head with Sony and getting destroyed
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
I mean, I've seen a lot of people saying that we should give them a chance after.... and I'm choosing my world carefully here.... not so great previous generation and 1st party lineup. I can't say no to MS games on the PC cuz I never owned an Xbox and never will. But it's just a fuckin' mess out there and I can't even call Bethesda stuff or Ninja Theory games etc. 1st party cuz they just bought them and all of the Bethesda studios, while their true 1st party is not so great outside of maybe The Coalition - I can't wait to see Gears 6 and play it, but outside of that.... there's not much else if we're not counting studios they bought.
To be fair, MS haven't even started to release their stuff yet for the most part as a lot of it is still in the works. Everything that was released so far is not moving the needle and simply not comparable to what Sony has. But it'll change soon enough... or not, we'll see. One other huge issue for MS is that nobody cares about their consoles and they even have one which creating huge problems for developers and they can't get rid of it or ignore it, even if not a lot of people bought it. Sony was a lot smarter by not releasing pos variant of PS5.
MonkeyClaw36
Member
Ms is clearly clutching at straws my god.....
Get your business model straight before you try another hopeless endeavor.....
Get your business model straight before you try another hopeless endeavor.....
King Dazzar
Member
Yeah but I thought at one point, there next gen box was going to be an amazing performance/technical leap? Or would there be more than one option, power wise?
Like I said back in Aug or so, MS tired of going head to head with Sony and getting destroyed
cireza
Member
Which are ? PS4 ports and privatized third party games right ?
I think the split is actually close to 50 / 50 between X and S, how is this not a lot of people ?
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