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[brau]

Good stuff.

The more games that come to PC the better in the long run. Then i can keep updating my library of games without having to worry about a console. So far, so good.

 

[ViolentP]

Urg I really don't want the Apple model coming to consoles.

It works in the mobile market. It won't work in the console market. We may have to live through a failure or two, but I'm confident the concept will die. Unless consoles go modular in the future essentially changing the entire business model, I won''t worry.

 

[BY2K]

Well is it happening or not?

Polygon says he hints at it but Guardian downright confirms it.

 

[dc89]

Well this is certainly an interesting proposition.

 

[Pyrokai]

If true, I could see a similar path for Nintendo.......

 

[Balmung421]

This is awesome

 

[Nictel]

Didn't Sony suggest something similar? Both probably are looking at the Apple model. Where there is backwards compatibility to an extend but apps run better on newer versions.

For Microsoft it helps them around the future naming issue. Xbox Two? Xbox newto? Xbox 2020?

 

[Ol No Bones]

Has this ever happened successfully with fixed console hardware?

Besides HDD upgrades and suchlike.

It hasn't really been tried in this capacity. We have little track record to go on.

 

[GopherD]

I wonder what developers and publisher will think about this. Targetting multiple configs will complicate matters and increase dev costs.

And you've answered your own question. Add to that three major third party developers will not cannibalise their own content delivery systems.

 

[Graphics Horse]

If true, I could see a similar path for Nintendo.......

They have said as much.
& n3DS already lets devs use more texture ram & faster processor in games which still run on the original unit. (xenoblade being the exception)

 

[Ghost23]

This is pretty interesting. Curious how the video game industry will look in a few years.

 

[Doug Heffernan]

Very interesting indeed.

 

[Fisty]

Seeing how that second paragraph isnt in quotes, im going to assume its the author drawing the dumbest conclusion possible from what Phil said. I mean hes pretty clearly talking about Xbone games on PC, right?

 

[Samurai G0SU]

Can I trade in my current xbox one using a promotional discount on the new xbox with upgraded hardware?

 

[leeh]

For this to work, they have to create their next console in a modular format, similar to swapping out a new HDD or the new phones recently.

Without plug and play hardware parts, you'd have to be buying complete boxes at a cost rather than a smaller charge for a module to upgrade your current box. That's the only way I can see this working, it's baffling.

 

[Algebrah]

Great news. Now I am debating if I should trade in my Xbox One since I have a good PC and the main reason I play my Xbox these days are Forza and Killer Instinct.

 

[justsomeguy]

Isn't this the exact opposite reason people buy consoles? I buy a machine in 2013 and know that it will play everything for the next 7 years, no headaches.

I think this is the key thing.

If you imagine a hardware refresh every two years, then as long as MS can give a commitment that games will be compatible and work going back 3 iterations (6 years) then I'm happy.

 

[Zombie James]

edit: Meant for other thread.

 

[snoopeasystreet]

I always assumed they'd follow more of a phone model considering they called the thing Xbox One.

 

[FriedConsole]

This is like Skylanders but with more expensive things for your shelf. That will be an additional $400 for a stable framerate. Lots of disappointed kids when they find the game mommy bought doesn't work in their system.

 

[wonderful103]

for all those complaining: this is what everyone's going to do

Considering how price-conscious the console market is, I don't see how anyone can think yearly $400 consoles is a good idea.

that's not how it works. whatever the model on the shelf is whatever's going to be sold
if you've already bought one, you can still use it just fine.

 

[RavenH2]

As long as I can keep playing my old games I already payed for, and play the newer games in decent conditions, without having to hastle with configs (meaning a guaranted performance in every device of the same model), I'm ok with this.

 

[justsomeguy]

So next gen I will need to buy Xbox every year? 400€ per year?

This is not going to end well.

No, that's crazy talk Games won't stop working just because there is newer hardware - games will be compatible with previous hardware iterations.

 

[SunBroDave]

This is a very good move. Just don't go GFWL on our asses again

It's already happening.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Genera...up-Ashes-Singularity-DX12-and-Microsoft-Store

 

[TheFlow]

I like this

 

[Cornbread78]

Urg I really don't want the Apple model coming to consoles.

Yearly Xbox releases for everyone!

 

[ViolentP]

for all those complaining: this is what everyone's going to do

Based on the fact that no previous attempt at this has truly succeeded? We must definitely be headed in that direction.

 

[gofreak]

Been increasingly likely for some time now that the next xbox would probably be a windows PC in a console box. Like a steam box. Refreshed every so often. I don't think MS wants to juggle two game platforms any more.

 

[Darryl M R]

I wonder if this will force Sony to consider upgrading the PS4 hardware overtime as well.

 

[Oynox]

If we are lucky this might be the last console generation...or at least the next to last.

Besides of Nintendo I mean, who will continue their job, I guess.

 

[shootfast]

The best time would be next year when Zen APU and HBM 2 are out.

 

[brau]

People here may be excited about the news, but won't this just encourage the entire casual market to head over to PlayStation?

How so?

I don't own an xbone... and i have less of an incentive to get one now. BUT! all games that are coming from MS first line party will be coming to PC. Allowing me to enjoy them as well.

Its a win win.

 

[Gtagentleman]

Don't fuck it up Microsoft

 

[Zombie James]

Considering how price-conscious the console market is, I don't see how anyone can think yearly $400 consoles is a good idea.

 

[10k]

Sweet. I'm ready.

Nintendo might be going this route to with the NX. Faster hardware refreshes with the same OS and architectures.

 

[CircleOfFire]

I think this is the key thing.

If you imagine a hardware refresh every two years, then as long as MS can give a commitment that games will be compatible and work going back 3 iterations (6 years) then I'm happy.

Well, except that might mean going back 3 iterations is fine, doesn't guarantee going forwards is fine, so after 2 years half the games coming out might not work on the model you have.

That sounds like a dreadful situation to me. My personal take is that they're going to rubber stamp Xbox PCs, like Valve do with the Steam Machines.

 

[emb]

Seems like this would kinda defeat the point of a console?

I don't like it, but I have to say I am curious where this goes.

 

[Iadien]

Can't wait to pick up an Xbox 2016 edition.

 

[foxbeldin]

Maybe they could lease the thing.
$20/month and you always have the latest version available.

 

[BY2K]

Considering how price-conscious the console market is, I don't see how anyone can think yearly $400 consoles is a good idea.

Discount if you turn in the old model?

 

[Gormless Noodle]

They should seriously give that a shot. I never understood why every console maker keeps following this cycle Nintendo introduced back in the day. They need to break free from it, if it can work for phones and other devices, why not consoles? Just keep the config in mind for the past 3 or so years and keep building on it.

It's exactly what Nintendo themselves did wrong during the Wii era imo, we saw the widespread adoption of HD TVs, the Wii was losing steam, looking quite outdated and they could have easily reinvigorated demand had they come with a Wii HD with improved motion controls, like 3 years into it's lifespan.

 

[Htown]

I've got a bad feeling about this.

 

[darkwing]

nice, if only it could run Steam too, but it's a W10 machine so it could?

 

[RPGamer92]

Will wait for the Xbox One 3.0

 

[krang]

So much speculation. So much hyperbole. So much baseless anger.

 

[Tregard]

The Xbox One is getting NX'ed

 

[hodgy100]

For this to work, they have to create their next console in a modular format, similar to swapping out a new HDD or the new phones recently.

Without plug and play hardware parts, you'd have to be buying complete boxes at a cost rather than a smaller charge for a module to upgrade your current box. That's the only way I can see this working, it's baffling.

No they don't software layers handle all that Bios, Kernel, OS then API's on top of that. jsut like it is now.

Microsoft taps out.

not really. homogeneous hardware is the next step

 

[SerTapTap]

The New3DS (and...every other attempt at this) would seem to indicate this probably won't work out all that well, but I strongly support the implicit complete backwards compatibility this would result in.

IMO consoles absolutely need to keep 100% BC starting with the current gen (or next gen for Nintendo) now that hardware has pretty much stabilized.

Am I missing how this is remotely like any announced or reasonable speculation regarding the NX?

 

[Zaptruder]

I called this.

Yep! So did I!

Also, this is a move that will let them get VR onto their living room box platform.

 

[IbizaPocholo]

I want a better gpu,cpu.A new xbox.