well come on, to give credit to jett, based on snake's model there's still a stark difference and there are a lot of smaller details that were never realised in the final game.
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Most Downgraded game
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Didn't Ken Levine say that they remade the game like 3 times?
console parity
CyberPunked
Member
To everyone saying Watch_Dogs
This looks very pretty. Game was still downgraded.
icecold1983
Member
Ill ignore killzone 2 as stated by OP. not in any particular order
watch dogs
uncharted 4
battlefield 4
adding a terrible looking DOF filter to blur 97% of the screen does not make watch dogs any less downgraded. seems to be the only differentiator in 95+% of these pc graphics mods, and it makes the game look terrible every time.
watch dogs
uncharted 4
battlefield 4
adding a terrible looking DOF filter to blur 97% of the screen does not make watch dogs any less downgraded. seems to be the only differentiator in 95+% of these pc graphics mods, and it makes the game look terrible every time.
To everyone saying Watch_Dogs
Oh yeah it looks great when you downsample and use a bit of Sweetfx. Unfortunately most people can't/won't do that.
mickcenary
Member
Don't get me wrong, I think KZ2 is a stunning looking game (if not the best of the generation), but I will never understand those that think actual KZ2 looks better than CG KZ2. The animations alone are beyond current-gen
Come to think of it, if someone with some actual authority on the matter were to assert that such animation isn't even achievable in a real-time video game, I'd have no trouble believing them. It's very clearly not an actual video game, whereas KZ2 very clearly is.
Come to think of it, if someone with some actual authority on the matter were to assert that such animation isn't even achievable in a real-time video game, I'd have no trouble believing them. It's very clearly not an actual video game, whereas KZ2 very clearly is.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Pretty sure that picture Dennis is using was posted by him before all the "2012 level graphics" mods came out. That being said, the game does look great on pc.
And yes, it was downgraded, presumably because they didn't wanna develop two different versions of the same game so they made the game scaleable between next gen and last gen hardware, which explains the downgraded geometry because the 2012 version seems to be going for more realistic scale.
EmCeeGramr
Member
I agree that there is a visible difference if you pay attention and I'm giving him a hard time, it's just that every time it comes up there's always the "lol the colors are different that's all" replies.
Dreamwriter
Member
One of the bolded is about a year from release and the other had stability issues but wasn't visually downgraded at all.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
How was BF4 downgraded? And Uncharted 4 isn't released yet.
It was?
TheRedSnifit
Member
It's tough to take this post seriously when it puts forward an unreleased game as an example.
Fbh
Member
To everyone saying Watch_Dogs
The fact the best screenshot you could find of the game is a shot from the Pc versión that's 90% out of focus only goes to show the game was downgraded
Going way back. Nice.
Too bad they couldn't deliver on that type of dynamic gameplay. *sigh*
Also, I just noticed watching that again that certain things change appearance such as the painting in the bar....which means in that version of the game the timeline changed in real time, kinda like the photo in Back to the Future.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Let's not forget that Otacan display, was a real 3D space, instead of just a video. It was impressive, but got cut (if you think about it, it was a waste of resources anyway)
This is still the king though, let's not forget that unlike other cases, people played this build.
If the new version dosn't look like this....
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
I was so hyped for White Knight Chronicles when they showed it back at TGS 2006... Did not turn out so good.
How so? Outside of resolution and framerate, the games have some issues relative to their original versions, but the marketing material for MCC reflected that (i.e. Halo 3 being washed out). There was no downgrade in the sense this thread is talking about.
#dead
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Project Ego
Deus Ex Invisible War
Spore
Deus Ex Invisible War
Spore
Fable...I was like 12 at time time, expecting a grand adventure. I used to go to the library and read the magazines they had back then and see previews and read about it all the time. Then I finally bought it expecting a game changer, to join the pantheon of awesome immersive titles before it like Ocarina of Time or Shenmue...
I was wrong about Fable...dead wrong. I never got the wife I was promised in that game either, and it was incredibly short
I meant to say "if not" basically I'm saying the games are downgraded in functionality not graphics.
BioBooster
Neo Member
You must be kidding. Can't imagine how you'd upgrade Xrd the quality is so butter.
Explanation?
icecold1983
Member
its pretty clear uncharted 4 is not going to look anywhere near the reveal trailer. bf4 was massively visually downgraded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEZhbV9s1Ag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-M32qUGPXM
fast forward to 17:35 for direct scene comparison
EatinOlives
Member
Spore definitely:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8dvMDFOFnA
What could've been...
The one that most hurt. To this day I still haven't played DS2 for that reason. The downgrade really rubbed me the wrong way. I'm not going to accept anything less than the prerelease quality for the re-release. If they half-ass it again, even after a do-over, I'm skipping the game entirely. Bloodborne is around the corner anyway, I'd be giving them a mercy sale if I do end up buying DSII.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8dvMDFOFnA
What could've been...
The one that most hurt. To this day I still haven't played DS2 for that reason. The downgrade really rubbed me the wrong way. I'm not going to accept anything less than the prerelease quality for the re-release. If they half-ass it again, even after a do-over, I'm skipping the game entirely. Bloodborne is around the corner anyway, I'd be giving them a mercy sale if I do end up buying DSII.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
What WKC was promised to be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEXvnoY-KoU
What it was:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hZmn4ZW0tU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEXvnoY-KoU
What it was:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hZmn4ZW0tU
Naughty_Doge
Member
Uhh...should I even bother?
SolidSnakex
Member
You're going to need to explain this. Particularly because the arcade version of Xrd runs at 720p while the PS4 version is 1080p. So, if anything it was upgraded.
DirgeExtinction
Member
I'm sorry, but personally that shot looks like someone did a poor job photoshopping Aiden(and the in-focus rubble) onto a majorly blurred out photo. It doesn't look good.To everyone saying Watch_Dogs
As for the topic, I'd say DS2.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
yup
Fucking tragedy that it was fromsoft that pulled this bullshit too.
White Knight Chronicles is another one for me. i had so much hope in that game when they first showed it off. it looked so cool. *sigh*
HOLY SHIT.
Seeing this makes me even more annoyed that the PC version didn't get this from day one. And they want me to rebuy it!
Was it Namco that infested From with this business logic? It's really bad!
MGS4 has always gotten a huge pass, and people go to such insane, ridiculous lengths to defend or be blind to the downgrade. Nevermind that its original showing was a perfect 60fps as well. It was just bullshit.
I was going to vote for MGS4 as the most downgraded game, although it doesn't really count because that was running realtime on a hardware setup that the final PlayStation3 would never equal in terms of graphics processing, RAM, bandwidth, etc.
I still haven't gotten over it and I don't think I ever will...
Halo 2's New Mombasa actually hurts me the most.
You know, I don't think I would have minded the graphical downgrade as much if they had ironed out the framerate. I would have even settled for a stable 30, instead of what the game wound up with. And that's not even getting into the gameplay downgrades they had to make, which they're only now getting to with MGS5.
I pray to God that Hideo Kojima remasters MGS4 in the Fox Engine on PS4 (and PC) to the point where it really lives upto that TGS 2005 reveal. Meaning the model detail, environments, lighting, textures, effects and framerate in native 1080p.
720p on XBone.
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