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[dancrane212]

Update -

From the interview the Youtube live stream had with Shannon Loftis (GM of game publishing at MS). First I've heard one way or the other on this subject, figure folk may be interested if this wasn't already covered.

-So it sounds like there won't be any games that would ship that would be Scorpio only right?

-I don't know about that. We'll see. It's up to the game development community.

There was also confirmation XB1 games can be scaled up (to 4K?) for Scorpio.

Game developers that are writing games...if they want to ship the game sooner if they enable dynamic scaling the game will automatically look better on Scorpio

 

[Crimson_Gold]

Well, there it is. I'm sure most devs will target the larger base, but I can see some 1st and 2nd party titles made for scorpio.

 

[LewieP]

Wow, that wasn't the suggestion from the initial reveal.

Edit: I think most devs would probably just ship an awful version on Xbox One too, rather than skip the userbase.

 

[freeofgreed]

Here we go...

 

[Rellik]

Scorpio only or Scorpio/Windows only?

 

[Ape]

Contradicts what was said at e3, I'll wait for clarification. Plus, that wasn't the most confident response

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

Halo 6 Scorpio exclusive confirmed

 

[Montresor]

So 100% backwards compatible, and mostly forwards compatible?

I'm okay with this.

 

[a Master Ninja]

I'm okay with this.

 

[adamantypants]

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[Dovahking]

Welp.

 

[Jarmel]

Well I guess it's good that developers aren't inherently shackled to the Xbone but most publishers will release for all available platforms anyway.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Oh for fuck's sake.

The Madness begins...

 

[TyrantII]

4 year generation confirmed?

Begun, the console arms race has!

 

[Arnie7]

There is no way that consoles will be sustainable if thats the case.

 

[Noobcraft]

Good. No need to have the hardware held back by 1.3TF.

 

[STEaMkb]

This is the opposite of Sony's expressed intent: all future games must work on both the PS4 and PS4 Neo. No exclusives.

This suggests that the new systems have dissimilar aims and goals. Scorpio is a departure from Xbox One, whereas Neo is an extension of the PS4.

 

[Bsigg12]

Obviously the VR games fall into that category. It'll be interesting to see outside of those who goes the Scorpio only route.

 

[HawksWinStanley]

This changes things a bit.

 

[dancrane212]

So 100% backwards compatible, and mostly forwards compatible?

I'm okay with this.

Doesn't forwards compatible mean that your games and accessories just go forward with you when you upgrade? I always thought it was almost interchangeable with backwards compatible.

 

[Tagyhag]

They have to do that for at least VR, anyone who thinks differently is kidding themselves.

 

[Suzushiiro]

Well, there it is. I'm sure most devs will target the larger base, but I can see some 1st and 2nd party titles made for scorpio.

I think as long as the rumor that Sony is outright banning developers from making games that only run on the Neo is true then we'll only see that from first/second-party games, and even that's unlikely.

 

[eFKac]

Just make it a new gen console, don't beat around the bush with PR talk.

 

[Mezoly]

Make sense. 2 years after Scorpio comes out, Xbox one will be 6 years old and you got to drop support at some point.

 

[Alex]

I'd still be more concerned with devs phoning in the original edition versions than producing nothing at all.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

Kickstarting next gen

 

[eerik9000]

Nobody left behind, right...

 

[Miles X]

Oh for fuck's sake.

The Madness begins...

I mean if this is the way forward, blurred genertions/no more generations, then XB1 is gonna have to get left behind at some point ....

I assume the reason for no XB1 port of a game will be the Scorpio version being too ... demanding. But then isn't that what you would want out of a powerful system?

 

[freeofgreed]

This ultimately will depend on whether or not Sony will allow NEO only games or not. If they don't then this is non-news as I doubt any devs will make games only for Scorpio. But if Sony does then fuck everything about these consoles.

 

[DangerMouse]

Here we go...

Eeew. This will really depend upon how they message it.

 

[mdubs]

Good, removes the confusion. All aboard

 

[Trickster]

And this is another reason for why this type of console release is shit

 

[mejin]

 

[neptunes]

There will be growing pains until most devs make scalable games/engines.

Make one Xbox game that scales well across all platforms.

 

[JumPeRJumPzZ]

So the SDK already features Scorpio features for Devs?

Would be awesome if i start up Battlefield 1 on Scorpio and i see a almost completly different game with way better IQ, Effects etc

 

[fritzo]

fuck it. lets just start next gen already. make everything backwards compatible.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

That's cool. Let the games scale between systems.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

this could finally sell me an Xbox

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

People need to realize that this IS the xbone successor. It will likely be priced like it too. This is completely different than what Sony is doing.

I don't think it's the right strategy for MS but that's what it is.

 

[Officerrob]

Nobody left behind, right...

That was always a bit of a lie, those wanting VR were going to be left behind

 

[Forsaken82]

Well I guess it's good that developers aren't inherently shackled to the Xbone but most publishers will release for all available platforms anyway.

Except for MS

 

[XAL]

So.

Is this like, a brand new console gen?

Or is it just a specced up version of the XBO? A genuine + 0.5?

 

[Azalean]

Doesn't forwards compatible mean that your games and accessories just go forward with you when you upgrade? I always thought it was almost interchangeable with backwards compatible.

It means that games released after Scorpio is released will still be compatible with the standard Xbox One.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

We have a product for people who don't upgrade to Scorpio

A console generation by any other name

Quick, someone come up with another one

 

[Dash_Riprock]

I mean if this is the way forward, blurred genertions/no more generations, then XB1 is gonna have to get left behind at some point ....

After they LITERALLY said in their conference "No one is left behind."

 

[Wollan]

ESRAM hasn't made BC (w/XB1, or forwards compatibility w/Scorpio) totally smooth going I suspect.

Puts a damper on Xbox One S knowing it won't play all Scorpio games.

This is getting closer to a console shift then iterative.

 

[Crayon]

I wouldn't grind my feet up on Eddie's couch, like it was somethin to do.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

So either games shackled to Xbo limitations or abandoning the Xb1 and going exclusive.

This is going to be a clusterfuck. There is just too big a power delta between the two devices.

 

[Dark Cloud]

This pretty much means it's a brand new gen.

 

[MrS]

So.

Is this like, a brand new console gen?

Or is it just a specced up version of the XBO? A genuine + 0.5?

Seems like a brand new console gen. Bit of a clusterfuck if Sony doesn't go along with it and PS4.5 is only a little bit better than the PS4. Chaos for devs.