KonradLaw
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They think mass migration is all a secret jewish plan to destroy the western civilization.
Because jews secretly organizing mass import of people who in large numbers hate jews makes so much sense
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Neo-Nazis will march on Yom Kippur in Sweden
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Because jews secretly organizing mass import of people who in large numbers hate jews makes so much sense
entremet
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Sounds like a lot of violence is coming.
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Fucking disgusting.
Are you for real? They are literally Nazis marching on Yom Kippur.
Hmm, getting 2001 Flashbacks. The police right now:
Living centrally I'm just going to stay indoors on Saturday. Shit might get crazy.
And honestly at this point, police and SvFF should consider postponing the planned football match, cause they sure as hell aren't going to be able to cancel the nazi march.
PuppetSlave
Member
Police have gone out and said they will wear body-cams so if the nazis try anything, there will be proof.
I'm fearing a '2001' scenario. Took a long time for the city to recover from the protestors and their bricks...
fredrancour
Member
Is there a non-hateful way to say that jews are evil masterminds and a threat to mankind? When hatred is the central thesis of an organization all its rallies are acts of hate. There literally isn't a message for them to deliver besides hate speech.
Not strange at all. There's going to be like 10-1 antinazis to nazis on saturday. That despite most of Sweden's nazis will be in Gothenburg on saturday. They are an loud and violent minority.
I'd be more worried about the counter protesters to be honest.
Yeah, its funny how these fuckers never go through the more immigrant dense parts of town.
Hey man, if you want the fantasy of mowing down a bunch of nazis then you have to wait for the new Wolfenstein like the rest of us
pls, we can't have this conversation every time
This I very much agree with.
Hmm, the police fucked up pretty badly in 2001, big chance they will again (well they already have with granting the rally to begin with).
So powderkegg of nazis wanting to stir up emotions, police high on adrenaline, antifa organisations, with violent subgroups, and a few thousand people, families with children etc, going to a football game.
I'm almost certain police will change the route of the march on the fly, without telling anyone, to help separate counterprotestors from the nazis. Honestly that seems like the smartest choice right now for the police.
Yeah I mean the first notice I got was from a friend back in Spain who has friends in commie / antifa groups in norway who told me to be careful because of that. Then it was some newspapers but mostly antifa posters. Really the only time I saw them in person was when they were giving leaflets once in Körsvagen and there were more police around them than they were.
I hope there is no violent stuff and yeah, forgot there was a IFK match this weekend, it could get ugly :/
IFK is on Friday fortunately, so it's not getting disturbed. GAIS is having theirs on Saturday though, against BP, kick off an hour after the march is supposed to end, right at Gamla Ullevi, and they're having free admission for the game as well.
"I'd be more worried about people who despise Nazis as opposed to literal, actual Nazis, to be honest".
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I think IFK fans will forget about the match this weekend given current their form lol.
ÖIS!
I'm more worried about the 1000 violent people marching than the 100 violent people marching. Despite the 100 violent people having an ideology that is million times worse.
This, plus NMR will gain so much more from putting up a strict and regulated image while other extremists try to agitate them. There will be significantly less of NMR so if they were to actually attack anyone they would get fucked up.
If they were born in Sweden they would be Swedish citizens and therefore not be able to be deported.
RoadHazard
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Yeah, this is gonna be a real shit show. Both groups are extremist idiots who can kindly fuck off.
I'm going to the Ghost concert at Liseberg on Saturday, so I have to pass through the center of the city, but it should be fine. The demonstration will take place in the middle of the day, I assume?
I think IFK fans will forget about the match this weekend given current their form lol.
ÖIS!
If we loose on Friday, we'll be in Sirius trouble I think.
I don't think all the counterprotesters are violent, but I do think a small subset of them will stir up trouble, and there's a big possibility that will be what the newsreporting will be about, specially consdering this subset also have an "aversion" to police in general, so they'll have two targets to unleash their anger at.
Should end at around 16:00. It's sort of close to centralstationen, so if trouble starts, it might spread towards there, and it might continue until much later. Just stay up to date on the news and choose your travelpath accordingly.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
The thing is that in Sweden it's not illegal to be a member of a certain group even if it's one based on hate, and it's also not illegal to walk together in a group down the street. So unless they start doing actual hate speech (which is illegal) they are not technically doing anything illegal and can't be detained just for being at a certain location at a certain time. That's how the law looks, for now at least.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
AFA is pretty damn fucked up too. Not quite as bad ideologically I suppose, but just as (if not more) violent. They are there to violently engage the nazis. Without them there it would almost certainly be a peaceful (but shitty) demonstration. So yeah, all of these people can fuck off.
EDIT: Which is pretty much what you were saying.
Wow. Hope everyone in the area stays safe.
Should be though. We've allowed these assholes for too long to fester in the country. They should be shut down.
And they will do actual hate speech, they have done so without consequence before, and if not "allowed" they will just hide it behind veiled language like "Sweden for Swede-"friends" only" like the fucks in the Swedish Democrats.
The current police estimates of who will show up is 700 nazis, 3000 counter protesters of which 200-400 would be considered violent.
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But you know. Let's not ruin a good narrative.
(and no I'm not a fan of AFA, but they're not the bigger threat in this situation)
Stop falling for nazi propaganda. NMR is not known for being "strict and regulated". It's the image they want to project, and you're helping them spread it.
And NMR's internal message is to "immediately attack" anyone who gets in their way.
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True, I wouldn't call a group that set of 2 bombs (and 1 failed one) in Gothenburg in the last year, "Strict and regulated".
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Get the counter-protest ready, ladies and gents. Let the spirit of this dear lady lead you:
Godspeed.
Godspeed.
That's what I meant.
Only if their parents were citizens. Though applying for citizenship should be easy at that point.
Ok, but they aren't, and there is no guarantee that they will just protest peacefully unless they are attacked.
So suggesting that AFA is unrulier or a bigger worry, and any violence from NMR will comes as a consequence from being attacked is playing into their propaganda.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I don't believe that an "undisturbed" NMR demonstration would end up with violence. I do believe one counter-protested by AFA will. This is not in defense of anyone (again, both groups can go fuck themselves), and I'm not saying the NMR demonstration shouldn't be protested against, but yeah.
PhantomHound
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I guess pewdiepie is having a fan meetup.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Not sure about swedish law, but in Denmark this will be the key that changes everything. Of how people are allowed to respond and how the police are allowed to respond.
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It's not like NMR has a history of violence against the police.
Or you know violence in general.
Or domestic terrorism.
And it's not like all my examples are from 2017.
If you think that NMR are there to protest peacefully you're an idiot. Seriously, they're a violent sect of nazis. Don't "both sides" this.
Name a country that's better than the Scandinavian ones. I'll wait.
Can you do your best to explain how this is not coddling/protecting hate? Not trying to be inflammatory in any sense.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
And AFA is a violent sect of extreme-left anarchists. Perhaps you're right that it wouldn't be a completely peaceful demonstration either way, but with both groups there it's guaranteed to become violent.
Again, fuck both sides.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Its beyond reckless and irresponsible to allow neo nazis to march and gain momentum, Im sick of the good guys playing by the rules, lock these people up, they wouldnt show us the same courtesy if the roles were reversed.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Again, I'm just saying that AFA being there guarantees that there will be violence, because we now have two violent groups in one place who fucking hate each other. That's all, not trying to protect or excuse either of them.
"As long as we let the Nazis march around like they own the place and put those minorities in their place, there won't be any problems."
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Are we still pretending AntiFa are as bad as Nazis?
Can't wait for that meme to clear off.
Can't wait for that meme to clear off.
I see. I think myself and most will have a hard time equivocating violence. Is there a difference between allowing hate to fester that encourages violence to those you hate, and violence aimed at those who hate minorities, and groups for the fact that they exist?
Jesus fuck, don't "both sides" this... Even during the riots of 2001, shit was stirred up by neo-nazi fucks (while taking refuge behind police lines) to rile up the left.
The fighting subgroup of these counter-protesters are still undisputedly better people than even "non-violent" nazi fucks.
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