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[M3d10n]

Yeah, they need to be more like these real hardware SoC, but the target demographic doesn't care so it ends up just being crappy emulation.

I'm kind of hoping that the NES Classic Edition is a SoC, but I highly doubt it.

It's not, it even has save states.

 

[TyMiles2012]

This looks literally like just every other SEGA Plug and Play. Nintendo's a first party product that they're marketing themselves, so if they're trying to compete, good luck to them. lol

 

[FaintDeftone]

Watch this video:

https://youtu.be/qUw7G5K2-Hg

Make sure you get at least three minutes in. Things are garbage.

Holy crap. That's definitely a major deal killer.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

I was about to say, this been out for awhile now

 

[Opa-Pa]

Pretty confident this was in the planning all along and that the NES Classic Mini didn't change anything. They have a refresh/re-release almost every year. Usually with only some minor differences.

Oh of course, it's just that I don't recall them announcing them like this online very often, which I asume is why so many people think this is the first time they release this kind of thing.

I could be wrong but before these just appeared out of nowhere most times.

 

[KnightimeX_Legacy]

Better scale with HDMI and have the same video quality as the mini nes.
Otherwise there is no point in owning this.

AV cables in 2016?
Really sega??

 

[jwhit28]

Holy crap. That's definitely a major deal killer.

Reminds me of 32x Doom.

 

[Fox Mulder]

Better scale with HDMI and have the same video quality as the mini nes.
Otherwise there is no point in owning this.

AV cables in 2016?
Really sega??

Sega just licenses it.

 

[Nairume]

Better scale with HDMI and have the same video quality as the mini nes.
Otherwise there is no point in owning this.

AV cables in 2016?
Really sega??

These are meant to be cheaper products geared towards people who aren't going to care about video quality.

It's also why the actual selection of games in these Geneses are also way less curated than what's in the Mini NES.

 

[Cernys-Sandwich]

I had one of those. Looked exactly the same. Also composite out on a 1080p/4K tv looks absolutely insanely horrible...

Also the sound quality will make you ears bleed...

 

[Sorcerer]

USGAMER has a great write up about why you don't want this:

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/begun-the-clone-wars-have-sega-fires-back-at-classic-mini-nes-with-a-mini-genesis

 

[Agent Unknown]

Also, aren't Genesis 1 models RGB ready out of the box with no need for modding? If so I'd just get a cheap Genesis 1, find an RGB cable and get an RGB to HDMI converter (decent converter adapters can be had as low as $30 or so) if one really is serious about playing real Genesis games on a modern TV that's probably to be the best option.

 

[MrCunningham]

Yeah, this is a video of an older model

2010 era CGR with kitchen table top and shout out to Mohammed from Qatar at the end. But yeah, the ATGames PnP Genesis hasn't changed much in all of those years outside of adding more games.

 

[Sylverstone14]

Genesis does what Nintendon't?

 

[rrs]

so it's the crap genesis soc licensed clone, but now with less trash games because Nintendo is about to squash their market

 

[Nairume]

USGAMER has a great write up about why you don't want this:

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/begun-the-clone-wars-have-sega-fires-back-at-classic-mini-nes-with-a-mini-genesis

He was actually being nice about how bad the atgames Genesis sounds by only linking to audio of Sonic 1 being played on it, when Sonic 2 is an even more damning example of how awful the sound on it is.

 

[Figboy79]

I do.

A, B, A, C, A, B, B

Yup. As the Genesis fanboy that I was, the MK blood code was the only thing that made my Super Nintendo loving friends jealous. lol. To be fair, we both loved SNES and Genesis, but I could only afford a Genesis at the time, so I just borrowed friend's SNES's, or visited my cousin that owned everything, to get my fix. lol

This product doesn't seem good, though. My Genesis still works, so if I need a Genesis fix, I'll just hook it up. My NES still works too, but I don't own all of the games from the NES Classic Edition, so I'll be buying that one for sure.

 

[Nairume]

so it's the crap genesis soc licensed clone, but now with less trash games because Nintendo is about to squash their market

If that's the same one as the last one of theirs with MK1, 2, and 3, the games being swapped out Ecco 2, Sonic 3D Blast, and Eternal Champions.

So it kiiiinda swaps out some not great stuff, but actual trash like Altered Beast are still in.

 

[lazygecko]

Watch this video:

https://youtu.be/qUw7G5K2-Hg

Make sure you get at least three minutes in. Things are garbage.

The problem with these sub-par emulation solutions is usually that they just have 1 universal sample rate for the whole signal chain, while on the actual console the internal synthesis works at 53khz which is independant from the final output's sample rate, and with the nature of FM the sample rate itself is going to have a very tangible effect on how things sound fundamentally.

That's certainly the problem here. But then there seems to be an additional problem on top of that with the chips somehow being tuned lower, and the FM and PSG chips being tuned differently on top of that, which is what makes it sound so off-key when the two are mixed together.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

Genesis does what Nintendon't?

They're releasing a garbage plug-n-play console, yes. Nintendon't do that.

 

[ProtomanNeo]

Yeah too bad this isn't an official Sega release. Also to be 80 games a cursory glance at that list leaves much to be decided. No Castle of Illusion, No Vectorman, etc.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

First the NES Mini and now this. . .


Nintendo confirmed to have bought SEGA.

Actually this is effectively Sega re-releasing something they already released many years ago, but with HDMI instead of AV.

Not even Sega actually.

 

[Frostburn]

Actually this is effectively Sega re-releasing something they already released many years ago, but with HDMI instead of AV.

Not even Sega actually.

Huh? This console doesn't have HDMI, just AV out...

USGAMER has a great write up about why you don't want this:

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/begun-the-clone-wars-have-sega-fires-back-at-classic-mini-nes-with-a-mini-genesis

This is a good read for anyone considering this "console". Disappointing too because a real Genesis Classic with HDMI, real controllers and good games would be amazing

 

[OuterLimits]

So no Phantasy Star 4, Shining in the Darkness, Shining Force 1,2, and Sonic 3. Terrible.

 

[NolbertoS]

I bought a portable one of that. Now I find this thread . Thx for killing my nostalgia, GAF. I'll just keep it sealed and play the NES Classic instead

 

[brettski2024]

I would have preferred a master system to be honest

Me too! A mini one with real sms controllers!

 

[EctoPrime]

I have used the 2008 model with 15 games and besides the wonky sound the cartridge port damaged one of my Columns carts pins upon removal. I dont recommend testing out anything irreplaceable on the machine.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

Actually this is effectively Sega re-releasing something they already released many years ago, but with HDMI instead of AV.

Not even Sega actually.

There's not even HDMI.

 

[Jimrpg]

Best thing about this is the box.