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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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D'ultimate
Member
That's true. But we're playing a game that's trying to simulate real life. Your argument would legitimize the camera shake from all angles except the driver cockpit view specifically.
Even so, the environment is shaking around the driver and the games are trying to simulate that. I don't think less shaking is the answer.
I would like them focus on make the steering vibrate more as a good simulator of the effect but then some would say their cars don't shake like that either.
with a controllermy old wheel is not compatible with the new consoles .. I would reinvest in a wheel may be later...
I haven't found an "omg this is amazing" wheel yet. I think I like my older wheel better than the one I bought new for current-gen. Don't be in a rush to get one, lol.
sems4arsenal
Member
Have you tried the T300?
No, but I'm making a mental note to start reading up on it. Recommended?
The nurburgring is notoriously bumpy and unforgiving. These cars have track suspensions which are tuned for traction, not comfort. GT Sport is way too smooth.
I was going to say, one standard quality of race suspension and tuning is that it hates your ass. Suspensions are "tightened" to minimize any sort of body roll and bounce that might undulate grip. Race driving on smooth tarmac feels closer to driving a consumer car on roads stripped for resurfacing. God rest your ass.
sems4arsenal
Member
Highly, although here is a "but" sadly. The pedals are mediocre and you don't get a shifter (separate purchase). The wheel is fantastic though.
I had to literally disassemble and use a hobby-knife to trim part of the brake mechanism on the G920. Anything is a step up, lol.
kostacurtas
Member
HueyFreeman
Banned
GTS beta pro
PC2 pro
yeah I'm really digging the environmental details in PC2.
Man, that GTS gif just makes me sad.
thelastword
Banned
I don't see what's wrong with it, you know no car shakes on a straight like that, I see no bumps in the road there, nothing is depicted on the track...There is no reason for such heavy shaking in PC2, it's almost like the bonnet is loose from the chassis.
Serious Sam
Member
In GTS camera is "glued" to the hood and is completely static in relation to the car. In PC2 camera is bobbing, kinda like drivers head would be. I think PC2 looks a lot more natural and this is why all racing games are doing PC2 way, and not GTS way. GTS fixed camera looks very odd and I never liked that in GT games.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
GT Sport Beta 1.08 vs Project CARS 2 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution at Willow Springs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X461M2mRl3c
Is this the pc version of PC2 or the downgraded one on PS4? Is it the same ToD? And where is the real life pic to compare?
edit: the sun told us that it's not the same ToD.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Project Cars 2 looks so inconsistent just like GTS.
TrojanBlade
Member
GT Sport Beta 1.08 vs Project CARS 2 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution at Willow Springs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X461M2mRl3c
God damn same old screeching noises in the GT game. They actually take over the engine noise and all I hear is that annoying screeching sound from past GTs. In PC2 the screeching noise is more subtle and believable . Graphically GTS >>>>> PC2. Sound PC2 > GTS.
Fix this shit PD !!!!
transformer
Member
I've come to the conclusion that sound and AI will always be subpar in GT games. The pessimistic side of me thinks that GT Sport is going with the online focus to remove the need for AI. No need for AI without any real career/offline racing, right?
crazysapertonight
Member
I like how cars swing in Project Cars 2 when you hit them. Looks really good comparing to terrible collision in Forza 7 where cars don't have influence at all.
JackAubrey
Member
The way rain is blown in gusts across the tracks in PCars2 is really fantastic. Different densities of rain fall and get blasted sideways by the wind. It's really great to see in action.
Driveclub's weather might be dramatic and pleasing for graphics fans, but it's nothing like really driving in weather.
Gingen
Banned
from GTplanet
Pit stop comparison: FM7-GTS-PC2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyHSbHBviGk&list=FL7AbLaTzPXxbjEfANA5qY6w&index=1
Pit stop comparison: FM7-GTS-PC2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyHSbHBviGk&list=FL7AbLaTzPXxbjEfANA5qY6w&index=1
thelastword
Banned
Oh my, that Forza 7 pitsop......I couldn't believe it, I watched this video several times..It's hilarious...
What's going on here though? Forza 7 A.I ????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STGiVKZKHRw&index=2&list=FL7AbLaTzPXxbjEfANA5qY6w
Yautja_Warrior
Member
GT Sport's pit stop looks great, I'd say easily the best of the 3, not surprising though with how much detail PD can put into their games.
PC's 2 also looks great, not quite on the same level as GT but it's still decent.
Wow at Forza. I'm surprised how bad that looks, having no pit crew looks weird, considering how good the rest of the game looks.
kostacurtas
Member
FM7 the easy winner there. Very powerful invisible ninja pit crew.
WHY are you posting gifs? Who not webm's or mp4's? And stop sharpening them, you are making it look worse.
TheAdmiester
Member
It doesn't match GT, therefore it isn't realistic.
sems4arsenal
Member
They did. The TGS build has overhauled tire sounds and overall better mixing.
eso76
Member
Damn, T10.
It doesn't look like it would be too hard at all to handle pitstop the way GTS does.
It's basically a cutscene that starts the moment you enter the pit lane.
It's a well thought series of cuts so the game never has to deal with the crew 'pathfinding' their way to the tires (with all the different cars that could be a real pain in the ass).
There's so many ways it could be done with a little effort. Heck, you could do it without even showing any actual interaction between crew and car.
And didn't the announcement trailer show a lot of pit activity ? Lol.
It doesn't look like it would be too hard at all to handle pitstop the way GTS does.
It's basically a cutscene that starts the moment you enter the pit lane.
It's a well thought series of cuts so the game never has to deal with the crew 'pathfinding' their way to the tires (with all the different cars that could be a real pain in the ass).
There's so many ways it could be done with a little effort. Heck, you could do it without even showing any actual interaction between crew and car.
And didn't the announcement trailer show a lot of pit activity ? Lol.
l2ounD
Member
Wtf.. calm down dude. He's actually adding cool things to the thread
I've visited this thread three times since he has posted that gif and it still hasn't loaded fully yet. Gifs are enormous and take forever to load.
Even on the very first page people already told to prefer other formats instead.
l2ounD
Member
So because you cant handle the gifs, that was your response? Come on guy. There are better ways to ask for things.
ethomaz
Banned
That should be a joke lol
Naudyboy16
Member
Forza has never had a good pit system. The first one did at least allow us to decide what we wanted to do, but they dropped that feature so quickly after the first one.
Gran Turismo does it the best with project cars 2 up next.
lol
There's a guy in this forum that goes around posting 4K gifs.
4K gifs.
I'm gonna do you a solid and introduce to neogfy, an add-on that turns gifs posted here into webms and mp4s.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/neogfy/chdcldnkcjgoogmnidgcpmdkdaopepgf?hl=en
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/neogfy/
Can you link me some of those?
Which game are you talking about?
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Next-gen always means current-gen unless you're talking Nintendo when it means next-gen.
On-topic.
Rarely play them, but I don't know how much further we can really push racing games in the visual sense, aside from environmental amenities. Like more flora and fauna, and spectators.
These games look almost real at times.
On-topic.
Rarely play them, but I don't know how much further we can really push racing games in the visual sense, aside from environmental amenities. Like more flora and fauna, and spectators.
These games look almost real at times.
I could swear I heard that last year, too, with every new build that came up.
kostacurtas
Member
Dictator93
Member
GTSport
pCars 2
PCars 2 has way too much painted into the diffuse on nearly everything and seems too lack the proper fresnel on its leaves. GTSport has much more realistic shading for its environements that represent the material better.