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Nintendo are banning hacked 3DS's from going online
- Thread starter chaobreaker
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grap3fruitman
Banned
Or imported a JP "new" 3DS because they weren't supposed to come to the US and wanted English menus and the ability to play US games.
I put it back to stock awhile ago so I could sell it actually so I wonder how that affects my system.
Holy Order Sol
Member
I should check if I'm banned, don't play online anymore but I do want to buy SMT4 Apocalypse, so worst case scenario I'd have to find a physical copy.
secretanchitman
Member
Checked last night and I'm not banned - am running CFW on my New 3DS. Doesn't bother me if I get banned or not, I only play offline anyway.
thoseAREmySHOES
Member
0/10 attempt
autoduelist
Member
Serious question -- if I want a 3ds to play some single player games [Etrian, SMT, etc... basically drpgs and srpgs] would I be able to get by with a banned machine or do I need to be able to get patches? The reason I'm asking... would one of these 'banned' machines sell for cheap, and if so, does it do what I need?
these CFW banned devices have eshop access and still are able to get patches.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
This only bans from multi-player and Pokémon Bank. You can still buy and update games.
Candescence
Member
Not surprising, but still bullshit.
All the more reason for me to wait until Nintendo is absolutely done with the system before I put CFW onto it.
All the more reason for me to wait until Nintendo is absolutely done with the system before I put CFW onto it.
Audioboxer
Member
Nintendo does not want anyone using their online service with modified hardware, it doesn't really matter how "legit" anyone is. As I said in the homebrew thread I think this will be ban waves.
I got banned and I hadn't even opened the friend's list app. I pretty much bought a 3DS to mess around with CFW/emulation when it became a thing. Not once played an online game (or the MP part of a game), but it has been connected to WiFi for months. I have installed a custom theme and some custom badges because they're cool, but again these are things no one should be able to do so probably detectable. Some of the themes here are beautiful, one could say far better than what Nintendo try to charge for https://3dsthem.es/ (nothing illegal on this site)
The only way around a banned console is to cannibalise another console by taking some file stored inside of it and inserting it into the banned console. Not 100% sure of the process, but ultimately, you need an unbanned 3DS and if you get banned again the console you took the file from will be banned too.
Also, be wary of an influx of 3DS consoles on Ebay/Craigslist/Gumtree lol.
Such a do gooder!
DarkConfidant
Member
Hardware usually isn't modified in this situation, jsyk.
I've been fine so far with my CFW 3DS. I use the Miiverse, friends list, and eShop features frequently.
Usually these bans happen to people who start hacking actual games, the eShop, and try cheating.
By trying to ban these devices from using online services, they're pushing people towards piracy and other things that they ironically are probably trying to fight by doing just this.
If one can't use the eShop, for example, the only other way to get 3DS games on the system is to pirate them.
I've been fine so far with my CFW 3DS. I use the Miiverse, friends list, and eShop features frequently.
Usually these bans happen to people who start hacking actual games, the eShop, and try cheating.
By trying to ban these devices from using online services, they're pushing people towards piracy and other things that they ironically are probably trying to fight by doing just this.
If one can't use the eShop, for example, the only other way to get 3DS games on the system is to pirate them.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
Yeah exactly. And even if they had blocked eshop, it's so easy to put all the games back on there again without eshop. Really couldn't care less, especially when online play sucks so badly.
Also with how bad their prices are and the selection is I've only ever bought a handful of games from eshop. This isn't like losing my PSN or XBL or Steam account.
autoduelist
Member
Interesting. So yeah, that sounds perfect for me. Now I just need to find out if they sell for cheaper on ebay or wherever. I'd think they would, assuming people are honest about it being banned.
Audioboxer
Member
I mean it will also stop sharing content in a game like AC (if you play it). Although, anyone could just go full on cheat mode now and use plugins or save file editors to give yourself anything lol. Same goes for Pokemon.
Ultimately, a large reason why Nintendo are fighting back. Cheat plugins are so easy to use on CFW, as is save game editing.
I await to see if they starting banning Wii Us next.
If people tell the truth you could get a good bargain, however as above I think there will be attempts from some now to flog banned consoles without saying. Nintendo is not going to unban them either. If it was as easy as phoning up and saying "I'm a new owner" everyone would do that.
Lol i know right. But mh4u though.
I've got a modded XL and couldn't care less about being banned. I haven't played anything online in more than a year and don't really plan to. The only thing I will actually be missing if banned is a legit way to purchase FE:Fates DLC when I finally get around to playing it, and Echoes later down the line.
On the other hand, VC injects are awesome and make it up a thousand times.
On the other hand, VC injects are awesome and make it up a thousand times.
Yeah, usually. But in this case, there's been people who just use CFW with no pirating involved still getting hit by these banned. Likely they're detecting people who are using unauthorized software via Spotpass.
And you can still use the eShop during the console ban.
Looks like none of my consoles are banned, but we'll see.
If it's banned, you can still buy DLC/access eShop.
The only things worth noting that you'd lose is online play with Smash/Animal Crossing/Pokemon/Kid Icarus/etc, and some sidequest online features like for Fire Emblem Fates, and access to Pokemon Bank (which there is a homebrew app for, but better grab those Pokes off the bank if you think you might be banned!)
BasedKiliK
Member
Lol, I got banned. Never cheated nor do I even care about piracy. Only wanted to run texture mods and retranslation patches for Bravely Default and FE Fates, and replay my favorite GBA games.
Now, I'm sad I can't play my copy of Monster Hunter online, but with that Switch announcement, I'm good.
I do find it funny how many people are butthurt about this though, when they should've known full well what they were getting into. There's a ToS for a reason.
Now, I'm sad I can't play my copy of Monster Hunter online, but with that Switch announcement, I'm good.
I do find it funny how many people are butthurt about this though, when they should've known full well what they were getting into. There's a ToS for a reason.
Audioboxer
Member
eShop access remains so you'll be fine (for now). I'm unsure if it is their choice to allow you to keep buying content off their store, or if there are legal protections for consumer hardware. Unfamiliar with the PS3/360 CFW bans in that sense. Do either MS or Sony allow the consoles to keep accessing their stores or do they ban ALL online access? If it's all, nothing stops Nintendo blocking eShop access some point down the line.
It's actually pretty easy to revert the ban, but I'd hold off until the community figures out the ban completely.
BasedKiliK
Member
They ban all access. I'd actually say Nintendo is the least strict on this regard.
Oh, I'm aware. But just as you said, I'm gonna hold off until things clear up.
That's what I thought too. I'm at least kinda sure there was a similar topic a year or two ago.
I probably got hit since I hacked mine to play a Pokemon Alpha Sapphire ROM hack (Star Sapphire, imo way better than the original game) but I already didn't have access to the store because my NNID had been linked to another 3DS I sold a few years ago. Online on 3DS sucks anyway so whatever.
Audioboxer
Member
Nintendo have historically been terrible with their online infrastructure. Probably even worse than Sony levels of having such shoddy foundations they cannot even support a PSN name change. However, they can ban from the eShop IIRC. I believe people playing Pokemon early got eShop bans.
Also if anyone asking about Ebay being flooded with 2nd hand banned consoles wants an indication, just look at how widespread activity is on 3dshacks on Reddit. As I'd guess due to historical Nintendo leniency, so many people were running CFW online for years without being worried.
From what I gather DLCs for Fire Emblems can only be purchased in-game. It's been similar with Atlus games I played (Persona Q and SMT4). I don't remember the additional content for them being listed in the eShop proper.
BasedKiliK
Member
The fact that people can even unban themselves in the first place is a fucking problem, and I say that as someone who's modded systems for years. They really are behind the times, but I don't think it matters in the long run unless online play continues to be shoddy.
Doesn't matter, if you did something you shouldn't have, you're likely to be flagged.
Audioboxer
Member
Ah okay, I'm going to guess that'll be restricted. Someone online probably has the answer to that.
True, but I think the 3DS has been hacked right down to the bottom line versus other devices. I mean, everything has been decrypted, hence how a9lhax can run before the device even starts to boot.
From what I can see unbanning yourself requires you to basically transplant the "heart" from an unbanned 3DS into your banned one. It's essentially sacrificing one for the other.
Well, if region unlocking is enough I'm probably fucked.
The same is true for the PS3 and the 360.
If you can run homebrew, you probably can change your console identifiers.
tearsintherain
Member
I have a hacked 3DS, not sure if I am banned or not I haven't even turned it on in like 2 months, still running firmware 11.2. That said, I've never actually played a single game online so doesn't really seem to be a big issue for me. I guess I let it get streetpass stuff for mario, zelda, etc but none of it ever seemed vital.
Now if my PS4 or xbox one or PC ever got banned I'd be in a world of hurt, since like 50%+ of my gaming time on TV is spent on multiplayer games online. If I ever buy a switch not sure what the mix would be, I'd definitely want some mario kart action but other stuff like mario, botw, donkey kong, etc are pretty much SP offline experiences for me.
I wonder if they were using the activity log and how legal that is.
Now if my PS4 or xbox one or PC ever got banned I'd be in a world of hurt, since like 50%+ of my gaming time on TV is spent on multiplayer games online. If I ever buy a switch not sure what the mix would be, I'd definitely want some mario kart action but other stuff like mario, botw, donkey kong, etc are pretty much SP offline experiences for me.
I wonder if they were using the activity log and how legal that is.
BasedKiliK
Member
Nah, in my experience, they would console and PSN ban you. That wasn't a fun time lol.
Audioboxer
Member
I mean, just look at streetpass lol
Not my images, but yeah, probably wasn't that hard for Nintendo to log everything and eventually act.
Or having something like this installed... again, DEFINITELY not my image. Honest. lol.
its apparently a rickroll app, it's not actually loading pornhub
Experimenter
Member
Yeah, I got banned yesterday, I totally deserve it. Honestly I don't really care since I never play online.
Experimenter
Member
Disable SpotPass in the system settings. Also I recommend you to stay offline while using "unauthorized softwares" (such as FBI)