Neuromancer
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The hate boner some people have for this game never ceases to surprise me.
If he shaved that beard he'd look like Burke from Aliens I swear
What's crazy is the people who were crucified on this very forum for asking "what do you even do in this game?". I guess not much of anything.
I understand everyone's feelings, but I think this is a bit of a shame. A perfectly pleasant, relaxing game throttled into irrelevance by atrocious messaging and mismanaged expectations.
I might mourn the NMS we never got, but I still enjoy the one we did.
Not really. Data supports that most of a game's sales on Steam will be made at launch.
The game stopped selling because of the terrible word of mouth. It is as simple as this.
You want me to find you another non-multiplayer indie game priced at $60? That's ludicrous because we both know that doesn't exist. I'm not buying the "it's supposed to be this way argument" too, since the $60 price and premise of NMS would have suggested that it's the type of game that should have retained users if it were good. You using Pokémon GO as an example doesn't fit since that's a jump-in, jump-out F2P game, the opposite business model to NMS.
That doesn't answer the Deus Ex question. Why would Deus Ex have still dropped to 5k if it had launched bigger? The "it has more players at launch" argument doesn't hold weight at all considering we can use plenty of other games with big launches like Fallout 4 or fairly big launches like Dark Souks 3, The Witcher 3 and see that the numbers don't drop as badly as NMS.
I'm not really sure what this is supposed to say other than "lol u mad"?
Like are you going to address the fact that you are just determined to label anything that doesn't praise NMS as "another NMS hate thread"?
It's not like we're arguing feelings and personal opinions in this thread. It's numbers. Hard numbers.
And the numbers show that this game has fallen harder than any typical $60 single player game ever has. The whole "It peaked so much higher than everyone else" only makes the fall that much more apparent. If you don't want to see that then yeah, your bias to blindly defend NMS is showing.
LolIf he shaved that beard he'd look like Burke from Aliens I swear
What's crazy is the people who were crucified on this very forum for asking "what do you even do in this game?". I guess not much of anything.
Procedurally generated universe, years of entertainment. Magic.
These guys really hit the jackpot. Sold a ton and no one is playing it now, which means they don't need to waste resources with post-launch support. Incredible.
The hate boner some people have for this game never ceases to surprise me.
I understand everyone's feelings, but I think this is a bit of a shame. A perfectly pleasant, relaxing game throttled into irrelevance by atrocious messaging and mismanaged expectations.
I might mourn the NMS we never got, but I still enjoy the one we did.
These guys really hit the jackpot. Sold a ton and no one is playing it now, which means they don't need to waste resources with post-launch support. Incredible.
These guys really hit the jackpot. Sold a ton and no one is playing it now, which means they don't need to waste resources with post-launch support. Incredible.
Data supports that there is no other non-multiplayer indie game that has launched with as high as No Man's Sky did on Steam. It is as simple as that.
Exactly that it doesn't exist. So judging its performance from "trends" is ludicrous. There is no other game that has these factors of indie, singleplayer, $60, and high peak launch on it.
Pokemon GO being F2P should mean it should have lasted longer. Dark Souls 3 is multiplayer. Witcher 3 has a team of hundreds updating it with patchs and DLC. Of course those two games are going to have legs.
Numbers with no context is meaningless. Comparing games like Fallout 4 and Witcher 3 to No Man's Sky is absolutely bonkers. Teams of hundreds vs a team of 12, yeah that's a fair comparison. No Man's Sky isn't a typical $60 game made by an AAA company with a team of hundreds, and if you don't see that, that is real bias.
Context? You wanna talk about context?
Did you ever stop and think to yourself HOW this indie game managed to sell such a high number? Or why despite the incredibly high sales, that the player base dropped like a fucking rock? You are incredibly stuck on the immediate result that you're not stopping to think about how he got there, and what it likely cost him and his company in the long run.
The "visionary" for the game (possibly unknowingly) lied about what his game consisted of, on a national stage. The hype train ran fucking wild and he spent an incredible amount of time stoking those flames by just giving contradictory and ambiguous statements throughout it's development, from "it's not multiplayer" to "there are multiplayer components" to "'Can you see other people?' 'Yes'", to "don't expect a multiplayer experience" to "wow two people met already (when they actually didn't).
NMS is a success at the cost of a future.
Surprisingly to me the people who seem to dislike the game the most are the ones who have been disappointed after actually playing it.
I'm just disappointed in Sean and co for how they handled the situation in it's entirety. I haven't played the game so I can't say that I don't like it. But I'm certainly not going to feel bad for it failing if it means that the devs don't profit as much for being disingenuous in the way they marketed the game and then the way they handled it afterwards.
Context? You wanna talk about context?
Did you ever stop and think to yourself HOW this indie game managed to sell such a high number? Or why despite the incredibly high sales, that the player base dropped like a fucking rock? You are incredibly stuck on the immediate result that you're not stopping to think about how he got there, and what it likely cost him and his company in the long run.
The "visionary" for the game (possibly unknowingly) lied about what his game consisted of, on a national stage. The hype train ran fucking wild and he spent an incredible amount of time stoking those flames by just giving contradictory and ambiguous statements throughout it's development, from "it's not multiplayer" to "there are multiplayer components" to "'Can you see other people?' 'Yes'", to "don't expect a multiplayer experience" to "wow two people met already (when they actually didn't).
NMS is a success at the cost of a future. The size of the company is irrelevant. The playerbase bottomed out faster and larger than any other game of it's magnitude, from just about anybody. You trying to compare it to Pokemon Go is laughable.
I don't care if you or anyone else hated it. I've enjoyed it and more than got my money's worth with over sixty hours of play. It's sad it's done so poorly and that Murray made such a mess of it, because there's some amazing stuff there that's overlooked in all the agita about what it could/should have been.
You.
Yes, you. The one screaming, "There's no multiplayer!" and "Sean Murray lied to us!" and other slurs I dare not mention.
Tread lightly.
You are one. We are hundreds, thousands. Millions. You aren't just IN the minority; you ARE the minority.
I don't feel awkward or anxious playing No Man's Sky around others, and your words don't affect me. Many others, however, are coming out of their shells for the first time in their lives. This is the first time many are enjoying the beautiful world that has been procedurally generated for us - and it IS beautiful. Incredibly so. DON'T ruin this for them. We No Man's Sky fans may have our differences, but we will not hesitate to come to the aid of our fellow explorers, especially against someone who so virulently slurs that which has brought us all together.
Don't take this the wrong way. I don't hate you. I don't fear you.
I pity you.
I'm sorry that you feel this way towards us. I'm sorry that No Man's Sky is such a bane to your existence. And I'm sorry that you are missing out on such a wonderful experience. Mostly, though, I'm sorry that you feel the need to go around and publicly chastise and berate others. I'm sorry that, to ensure your own validity, you need to make others feel invalid. I'm sorry that your self-worth is so infinitesimally miniscule that you have to make others feel less-than-human, at least in your own denatured mind, just to feel whole. I am truly sorry that day-in and day-out you have to put up with your worthless, meaningless, Shakespearean tragedy of a life.
I ask you politely to cease your unnecessary cries for attention, and instead invite you to join our ranks. Uninstall Call of Duty, start up No Man's Sky, and breathe in the splendour and the amazement of your first planet, and then, maybe, just maybe, you'll see what you've been so hopelessly searching for this whole time.
Not really. The complete loss of consumer trust will hurt them significantly in the long term.
I have some forensic software that shows how someone would look completely clean shaven.
This is what I got after running his face.
Before:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfy6r2FUIAA0X5v.jpg
After:
http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9300000/Quark-ferengi-9330464-579-729.jpg
.I hope other devs take note
Not really. The complete loss of consumer trust will hurt them significantly in the long term.
I have some forensic software that shows how someone would look completely clean shaven.
This is what I got after running his face.
Long run? lol it's only been a month a bit, buddy. Presumptuous to think that No Man's Sky won't get content updates or a price drop to boost their numbers again.
K so you're not actually going to address anything. Cool. Keep on keeping on I guess.
I addressed your lie about the game not having future updates.
Not when they resurface as Howdy Games lead by Shane Murphy. Seriously I don't think they can expect any takers in the future.
Not really. The complete loss of consumer trust will hurt them significantly in the long term.
He's referring to updates that add anything meaningful to the game (base building, etc), and it's not a lie, it's speculation and only time will tell if it's true or not.
The name was a hint
https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeau...twitter_activity_of_the_no_mans_sky_official/
I saw this on reddit the other day lol
The hate boner some people have for this game never ceases to surprise me.