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NYPD kill a man after he breaks up a fight between others.
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After taking his pulse, just they way she talked to him "Sir, it's EMS etc.", it just felt devoid IDK exactly how to describe it; just a huge contrast from this
Angelus Errare
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It's a often brought up often repeated thing. Annoying as all hell as if their 'struggles' some how invalidates the ridiculously disproportionate rate blacks get harassed and abused by police.
I imagine there were people saying "Us too!" when blacks were getting water hosed by cops.
The cop in the green shirt is sweating bullets. He's trying to act relaxed as to not seem guilty. He knows he fucked up, and just murdered a suspect. I hope his career is done, and he needs to be criminally prosecuted for excessive force.
Fucking NYPD, nothing but racist pricks.
And the white fat cop is a fucking liar "oh he's breathing"...corrupt cops. Scum of the earth.
Fucking NYPD, nothing but racist pricks.
And the white fat cop is a fucking liar "oh he's breathing"...corrupt cops. Scum of the earth.
It isn't the major backed up his story already. More of the same police punishment for murdering people on video.
Not much.
HamPster PamPster
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Watching the cops play Weekend at Bernie's for the cameras was just disgusting
Don't Laugh
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why doesn't the NY attorney general's office bring up charges since the city's government obviously won't?
Al Sharpton is involved
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/eric-ga...-after-nyc-man-put-in-police-choke-hold-dies/
Do yourself a favor and don't read the comments in that article, they are that bad.
Give the cops an excuse to ride through the ghetto and shoot anything that moves? Brilliant idea.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
This shit is really disgusting.
Nobody deserves to die this way, especially at the hands of civil servants who are there to protect...
Nobody deserves to die this way, especially at the hands of civil servants who are there to protect...
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Al Sharpton is involved
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/eric-ga...-after-nyc-man-put-in-police-choke-hold-dies/
Do yourself a favor and don't read the comments in that article, they are that bad.
Good to see this is actually getting some attention. Unfortunately it wont mean anything because the murderers will still be employed as police and the people they lord over will pay for any civil reward.
HigherLevel
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I saw this on facebook earlier today. Disgusting.
Cop lost his badge
EDIT: Don't worry though, I'm sure he'll be cleared and all will be right with the world again.
EDIT: Don't worry though, I'm sure he'll be cleared and all will be right with the world again.
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...es-Heart-Attack-Police-Custody-267599171.html
Cop in Chokehold Arrest Death Stripped of Badge Amid Growing Outcry
Cop in Chokehold Arrest Death Stripped of Badge Amid Growing Outcry
SliceSabre
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Cops will probably just claim they felt their lives were in danger if there is a court case and acquitted because how could such a large black man against such small white men not be a threat to someone's life!?
Ugh, this kind of stuff makes me sick and as a black man only makes me view cops as my enemy and not there to actually help me. Sometimes I think, why would I ever ask a cop for help or call the police? They'd probably shoot me thinking I was the one committing the crime.
Alpha Centauri
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My heart goes out to his family. Regardless of his crime, headlocks are against protocol for a reason. And the guy has the nerve to wave at the camera and smile.
He'll get assigned to desk duty and get his gun back in about a month.
TestOfTide
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Not to mention that there would be no reason to check for a pulse if he was breathing.
By checking a for pulse you are implying that they might not be breathing.
Exactly, this incident was from last September
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/16/us-usa-police-accident-idUSBRE98E0AT20130916
That officer has been charged with voluntary manslaughter though.
DirtyPirateHooker
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The hard, ugly truth of the matter is, we are no longer a nation of laws, nor is the "rule of law" still in effect. We are ruled by men, not law. For a nation to have rule of law, the laws absolutely must apply to everyone equally and at all times.
Cops, through qualified immunity and other legal protections, are allowed to, and often get away with, crimes that would land regular civilians in prison. We essentially have a two-tiered "just-us" system, where the same laws that apply to us no longer apply to the ruling class and their enforcers. Hence, just-us.
There's a certain kind of irony to it. They've successfully conditioned the population to be deathly afraid of anarchy and to practically worship the idea of government, when they themselves live under anarchy and only maintain governments to keep everybody outside the ruling class under tight control. They actually got the masses to love their servitude.
Cops, through qualified immunity and other legal protections, are allowed to, and often get away with, crimes that would land regular civilians in prison. We essentially have a two-tiered "just-us" system, where the same laws that apply to us no longer apply to the ruling class and their enforcers. Hence, just-us.
There's a certain kind of irony to it. They've successfully conditioned the population to be deathly afraid of anarchy and to practically worship the idea of government, when they themselves live under anarchy and only maintain governments to keep everybody outside the ruling class under tight control. They actually got the masses to love their servitude.
Does he cough at 6:19?
How would that change the outcome of the video for you? Regardless of what happened there, he was still choked to death.
This isn't a new thing if you are black. I know police are starting to treat white people badly but they have been doing this shit to black people for decades.
Bubble Metropolis
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Reading the comments on PoliceOne which were, from the few I read, unanimously in support of the actions of the officers because they were merely following the lawand I'm sure they wereit would appear that we are rather too heavily seen as laws or law violators and not as men or people. There's no humanity to be found there or in the video; policing in America is largely just the rigid execution of law with uniformed people doing their jobs/just following orders against "perpetrators" (never people/living things), and that's still as sickening of an excuse as it ever has been. On one hand I can understand the partial dissociation from others when acting as an officer, but it doesn't mean you have to become a fucking unfeeling monster.
Exactly, but then again my certification has long expired so what do I know.
Pretty sure de Blasio doesn't hate brown people.
Getting into a fight with the police can destroy political careers, it has been shown time and time again. Don't get me wrong, there's a whole lot of institutional racism (and plain old racism) on the political level, but I think that's what you're seeing at play here is just cold political calculation.
Not an excuse of course, just an explanation.
He should lose his life since he's a murderer. Put him on trial and execute him.
Extra Sauce
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Jesus Christ, I couldn't even finish watching.
"I can't breathe... I can't breathe... I can't breathe... I can't breathe..."
One of the most horrifying videos I've seen.
"I can't breathe... I can't breathe... I can't breathe... I can't breathe..."
One of the most horrifying videos I've seen.
Once the man has been taken to the ground (buying into the police assumption that he was "a threat") what reason do they have to keep the headlock on him?
This is why I can never by the whole self defense argument. Once the suspect has been immobilized, that seems to be when the cops start their bullshit.
This is why I can never by the whole self defense argument. Once the suspect has been immobilized, that seems to be when the cops start their bullshit.
kame-sennin
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I agree. Unfortunately, the only alternative is to stand by and wait to be the next victim of police murder. The subjugated people of America have been given terrible options.
Jmanunknown
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That was crazy the cops jumped him like they were doing a gang beat down.
The second video is just all levels of messed up. None of the officers did anything to help him at all. They just stood their and watched him die in the second video and then the even more messed up part is the paramedic did not even do cpr their knowing he was likely dead. The lack of compassion and disregard from those officers and that paramedic for that poor guy was absolutely insane.
The second video is just all levels of messed up. None of the officers did anything to help him at all. They just stood their and watched him die in the second video and then the even more messed up part is the paramedic did not even do cpr their knowing he was likely dead. The lack of compassion and disregard from those officers and that paramedic for that poor guy was absolutely insane.
Pegosaurus
Banned
I have a friend who thinks all cops are scumbags. I try to tell her that only the scum cops get media attention, but she doesn't listen.
It just seems like there are more bad cops because they're the only ones you ever hear about.
Anyway this shit is gross. We need an overhaul on how they punish police officers. If this occurred how the sources said it did, these officers should be fired and arrested for murder. Too bad that won't happen. This kind of shit needs to be prevented when possible.
elrechazado
Banned
Folks this is why cops continue to threaten those who record them, despite an almost endless series of affirmations that filming cops in public is protected by the constitution.
The lesson they will take from this is not going to be that they made a mistake. The lesson will be that they have to be more diligent in making sure nobody records them again.
The lesson they will take from this is not going to be that they made a mistake. The lesson will be that they have to be more diligent in making sure nobody records them again.
Pegosaurus
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TheRealTalker
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bloody police knew he was already dead
pretended he was still breathing.... you can even see them whispering to the ambulance person to not say anything
Jmanunknown
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Apparently the officer who put the guy in the choke hold has a history of violating police procedure and harassing black people.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Unbelievable, what are the odds?
jordan0386
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They are literally trained to shake down Blacks.
He's gotta live with that the rest of his life. I hope he drinks himself into a bottomless pit.
He's gotta live with that the rest of his life. I hope he drinks himself into a bottomless pit.
Omnii-chan
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Christ. It's like every second month I see a report on police brutality in the US killing a civilian.
Absolutely disgusting.
Absolutely disgusting.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/19/nypd-daniel-pantaleo-chok_n_5602742.html
Allowing this guy to continue being a cop is one of the reasons people think all law enforcement agencies are corrupt.
gutterboy44
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Lol, my favorite NYPD apologist line I keep seeing trotted out is, "he was twice their size." If there was any one of those scum bag cops weighing in anywhere in the realm of 175 lbs than I have a bridge to sell you.
Absolutely pathetic response from the Mayor. The racism in lawn enforcement is disgusting. Fuck the NYPD, I am so glad to be out of their domain these days.
Absolutely pathetic response from the Mayor. The racism in lawn enforcement is disgusting. Fuck the NYPD, I am so glad to be out of their domain these days.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
It sucks to hell and back but that particular piece you picked is true in many situations. Quick decisions have to be made in order to gain control of a criminal or suspect or else it's the cop who has been killed or beaten up by a black or Hispanic person. I knew a friend in Southern California who I basically consoled and told him he did the wrong thing. He got caught in the end but he basically evaded police for doing something wrong and hurt a white cop who was only doing his job. I've read several stories about excellent white cops with amazing community service which were killed by scum criminals who have no remorse the other way around. As I said yesterday, it's such a damn shame it comes to this but I think it's fair to say cops are more right than wrong in a lot of these cases.
I think it's fair to bring up the contrasting side since I think it's unfair to just bash the cop for doing his job even if he did do something stupid like choke hold. It's the thousands of other situational decisions that happen throughout the year which allow criminals or suspects to evade police and sometimes brutally and cold heartedly murder good police force. Those things often don't get the response as this case which I noted, it's very hard to watch that and can only stomach it once. I feel bad for the guy in the end and wish there would be other solutions but as stated several times, police have to apprehend suspects every day and sometimes it ends their lives if they don't make quick decisions.
Pretty sure they do. My mother in law and brother in law work in the field. You're going to often times be in high stress situations with firearms.
Jmanunknown
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This is completely unnecessary and down right ridiculous given what happened to this poor guy. Instead of blanket defending the police officer in this situation actually read what happened. Then add his history of violating procedure and racially charged harassment then you have a recipe for disaster and your defending him think how that makes you look.
Going by past cases, probably not
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704471904576228801350479780
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