LordBaztion
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how the hell something like Dead Rising 3 gets funded and not an Obsidian RPG.
You can make a point without labeling or name calling, you know...
This is not how a business, especially one making entertainment products, is supposed to act.I hate when companies act like a business
Between this and Scalebound, it seems Microsoft will only publish games that will be a guaranteed money maker.
This is not how a business, especially one making entertainment products, is supposed to act.
Not really, as the original halo wars flopped.
It's not a question of how it was positioned or what the quality of the game was, don't take this as a criticism. I've still got my day one ruber armpatch from the LE.
1 million copies of a game in a whole year of sales is probably coming close to only just breaking even.
If Halo Wars had have been considered a great financial success, then we woudn't have had to wait 8 years for a sequel.
Obsidian already did rework it. It came out. It's called Tyranny. You can buy it on Steam right now.Is there any public indication yet whether Microsoft is retaining the IP for this game or Obsidian can try to take it/re-start it elsewhere?
See above.Sad that this game didn't get made.
This is not how a business, especially one making entertainment products, is supposed to act.
What are you on?!
History is littered with great games that sold like crap.
Yeah I wish they would go non-profit like Sony. UNICEF buying out Sony was probably the best thing to happen to the company.
Buddy...that's how basically every corporation works. Stuff gets green-lit and canned all the time. We just hear about it more with Microsoft because people still have their hate-jerk going for them. That and they aren't half way across the world in Japan where a lot of that stuff isn't made public knowledge on a regular basis unless you're Konami.
I don't know I've enjoyed a lot of freeware and fangames over the years.Every game you've ever enjoyed is a product of capitalism.
Because they had someone (or many people) high-up at Sony who believed in the game and wanted it released no matter what. That's what this article is about.although this is quite true and possibly even smart I can almost guarantee that Sony didn't want to make TLG, maybe Shenmue.... that particular e3 looked very much like a company trying to win consumers over not just looking at bottom dollar.
p.s. - it appears to have worked.
lol, you must be new hereXbox defense force activate
Yea you tell em guys!!
Everyone knows the BEST games are ALWAYS guaranteed money makers from inception until release!!
Got no time for new things or risk. Gimme those sweet sweet guarantees.
Because they had someone (or many people) high-up at Sony who believed in the game and wanted it released no matter what. That's what this article is about.
When you don't have that, it's pure business and it's easy to see why Microsoft canceled it. It's a shame, for sure (I love Obsidian), but I really can't blame MS for just cutting their losses in something they didn't believe in.
Heh, ironically you are more cringe worthy than the people you try to make fun of. I'm sure that irony is lost on you thoughAwe did I hurt your plastic box ?
Mircosoft is a shit publisher this generation plain and simple. If you are a pub chasing nothing but pure profit/ next big franchise only then you're in the wrong fucking business.
Obsidian,
Please contact Sony about doing something for them.
Between you writing ability and their programming expertise, you guys can create something special and within budget.
All the best,
Raven117
MS defenders rolling in here quick.
wow that sounds horrible, i wouldnt want to be work in this company!
lulz
The lack of advocates at Microsoft has been a big problem for Xbox games specifically, but it's also going to be a big problem for Xbox itself. It used to have Ballmer who was willing to put up with poor performance in the hopes of greater gains in the future. He was one of the original visionaries for Xbox so he was going to stick with it through thick or thin. Nadella is a totally different story and the lack of an advocate can be a big reason why we keep hearing whispers about the whole gaming segment there.
I hate when companies act like a business
I hate when companies act like a business
Publishers are businesses yes, but there's something to be said, especially in a subjective and artistic medium, for diversifying your portfolio.
This is not how a business, especially one making entertainment products, is supposed to act.
How do you think stuff like Crackdown gets a 3 year leash and Sea of Thieves gets greenlit. Clearly they have people pushing for those gamesThe lack of advocates at Microsoft has been a big problem for Xbox games specifically, but it's also going to be a big problem for Xbox itself. It used to have Ballmer who was willing to put up with poor performance in the hopes of greater gains in the future. He was one of the original visionaries for Xbox so he was going to stick with it through thick or thin. Nadella is a totally different story and the lack of an advocate can be a big reason why we keep hearing whispers about the whole gaming segment there.
Publishers are businesses yes, but there's something to be said, especially in a subjective and artistic medium, for diversifying your portfolio.
Those risks they take.Yep MS doesn't support something they don't feel will be a money maker. How dare them.
Can't really feel sorry for Obsidian. Make a better game on time and on budget. This isn't a charity.
Those risks they take.
Between this and Scalebound, it seems Microsoft will only publish games that will be a guaranteed money maker.
Nothing wrong with releasing it for the fans they got engaged with it. Could always end up better than they think.Yep MS doesn't support something they don't feel will be a money maker. How dare them.
This isn't unique to the game industry. Litterally any project at any company at all has a champion. They're just talking about general project management.
Oh my. The Thebeardofknowledge defence force active!truth hurt ?
how many games did they cancel this gen ?
Yeah, I don't know why people rebel about this.This isn't unique to the game industry. Litterally any project at any company at all has a champion. They're just talking about general project management.
Oh my. The Thebeardofknowledge defence force active!
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I don't know I've enjoyed a lot of freeware and fangames over the years.
Surely you don't see that as a measuring stick Microsoft should use, to determine whether they'll publish a game.Let's be real. Neither of those games are going to outsell forza halo gears etc.
This doesn't surprise me, but it's still good to hear. Feargus seems like a great person to work for. Too bad that MCA left.I used to work at Obsidian many years ago. It was on Neverwinter Nights, and I absolutely loved those guys. Feargus was just a down to earth dude who called everyone by their first name (even us lowly QA dudes), and was always there to listen to anything you had to say. I was on track to move up the ladder and into an art position, but I unfortunately left the company due to health reasons. I miss those guys. A nice, passionate company to work for. Considering that I've worked at a ton of companies, that's high praise from me. Most of the places I worked for were awful.
I hate when companies act like a business
I used to work at Obsidian many years ago. It was on Neverwinter Nights, and I absolutely loved those guys. Feargus was just a down to earth dude who called everyone by their first name (even us lowly QA dudes), and was always there to listen to anything you had to say. I was on track to move up the ladder and into an art position, but I unfortunately left the company due to health reasons. I miss those guys. A nice, passionate company to work for. Considering that I've worked at a ton of companies, that's high praise from me. Most of the places I worked for were awful.
Heh, ironically you are more cringe worthy than the people you try to make fun of. I'm sure that irony is lost on you though
Wait, wat?
It sold 1M in its first month.
This doesn't surprise me, but it's still good to hear. Feargus seems like a great person to work for. Too bad that MCA left.
Oh my. The Thebeardofknowledge defence force active!
What does that have to do with profit and big franchises? All the publishers I listed are dependent on their big hitters.