I'm going to bet it won't be long before people figure out a way to get the Morpheus working on a PC since PC is so open. At that point Morpheus would be the best VR headset as it would work on both PS4 and PC.
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Oculus CEO: The headset and computer to run it will cost you ~$1,500
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I'm going to bet it won't be long before people figure out a way to get the Morpheus working on a PC since PC is so open. At that point Morpheus would be the best VR headset as it would work on both PS4 and PC.
Lady Siara
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Considering they've posted the recommended specs to use it, I don't see how this would cost ~$1500. Perhaps if it was a prebuilt or something.
Another thing to note is the phrasing: "at most you should be in that $1,500 range." This budget probably includes a PC over the recommended specs.
Another thing to note is the phrasing: "at most you should be in that $1,500 range." This budget probably includes a PC over the recommended specs.
Nothing1016
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Anything over $249 is DOA and will be seen as a Niche product in my eyes. I just don't see the general consumer spending that much on an accessory unfortunately. :/
Is this a serious question? How about: Are there people in this world who either don't have the space or money for a PC setup? The answer to that one should be more obvious. You know. Teens. Students. Poor people.
I've been on laptops my whole life. Never had the space or disposable income to build a PC considering that my photography hobby and travel comes first.
But yeah, there's tons and tons of people like me.
I'm guessing roughly $1000 computer and $500 headset.
Never going to touch anywhere close to mass makret at that kind of level, but maybe they were never aiming for that either?
As expected, Morpheus is the best bet to have VR be a "good" (as opposed to "best") and affordable experience (with a chance at touchign a larger market).
Hopefully it will be "good enough" to get people on board.
Personally, as long as the Morpheus headset is less than $300, I'll be on board eventually, and $200 or less it's day 1.
Never going to touch anywhere close to mass makret at that kind of level, but maybe they were never aiming for that either?
As expected, Morpheus is the best bet to have VR be a "good" (as opposed to "best") and affordable experience (with a chance at touchign a larger market).
Hopefully it will be "good enough" to get people on board.
Personally, as long as the Morpheus headset is less than $300, I'll be on board eventually, and $200 or less it's day 1.
Mr.Marston
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I hope Morpheus is affordable. I'd be willing to bite at ~£300
Who'd have thought running a game at 2160*1200 at a flawless 90fps would be so expensive.
TheMadMan007
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Fantastic, I already have a DK2 and it runs great on my PC. I'll probably get some new GPUs when the retail version comes out, but for now my 970s run the DK2 great.
MikeE21286
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Take advantage arcades!
Hale-XF11
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Exactly, this isn't shocking news by any means. It's how all new consumer tech starts out in the market.
In a couple of years or so, everyone with an average PC and half-way decent graphics card will have affordable VR headset options.
This isn't the first time Oculus have said they would go for the high end market where VR has the best chance to shine btw, it shouldn't come as a surprise.
And there will be even more demanding VR HMDs and software for the PC well before the PS4 reaches its cycle. Also new GPUs. I'm glad someone bothers to drive future tech a little bit further than the competition on an open platform.
And there will be even more demanding VR HMDs and software for the PC well before the PS4 reaches its cycle. Also new GPUs. I'm glad someone bothers to drive future tech a little bit further than the competition on an open platform.
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Deleted member 17706
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Moving pictures on a TV are VERY different to what you experience with VR. You can't compare the two. Low resolution and framerate in VR means your experience is awful and you're likely to throw up your lunch.
Price will always be the factor assuming people find the content and experience compelling. Consumer VR has failed before because the technology (and content) just wasn't there.
Pretty much.
Lady Siara
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Oculus would like to sell the Rift at a cost to themselves to bolster VR attachment, I highly, highly doubt it's launching at $500. I don't see it being sold for more than $350.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Of course. You're right. It's still a very high entry point from something that's essentially replacing your monitor.
I hit hope Oculus itself won't cost an arm and a leg, and it needs to be competitively priced. Oculus won't lose any business, but it is essentially a "Premium" entry point for VR. Sony's is aimed to those that own a PS4 or want an Oculus in the living room by simply plug and play.
hodayathink
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I don't think millions of people meet their recommended specs, which is what he's talking about.
GuitarAtomik
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Maybe? Even then, it would probably be a subpar experience compared to Rift or Vive on PC unless Sony AND the developers of each game create native support.
The headsets will almost certainly range from $250 to $450. We know the cost of a Playstation 4. This isn't that hard.
Dirtyshubb
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Well we know that it has shown it can play pretty and engaging content which is two of the most important aspects it needs to get started.
Just because it's a Ps4 and not a monster rig doesn't mean it won't be able to deliver quality content, it's just the vocal minority of some PC master race style posters and/or ignorant posters who like to perpetuate the myth that ps4 can't handle vr. Graphics won't be as good as current ps4 games of course but you really don't need that for great vr.
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Deleted member 17706
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Yeah, because tons of people don't happily drop $600 and more on phones every couple of years... wait.
It has to be seen as a must-have and not treated as an accessory. As long as the content is there and not available anywhere else, people will find a way to afford it.
It's got nothing to do with vocal PC enthusiasts. We know what kind of hardware it takes to run something at 120hz at high enough resolutions to avoid the screen door effect, and the PS4's hardware will dramatically limit what kind of visuals it can offer. We also know the kind of performance we're already seeing in normal 1080p multiplat (and exclusive) PS4 games. It's not great.
NullPointer
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Yikes. OK.
Will wait until the version that only needs the horsepower found in my phone. Its only a matter of time.
But I'm biased in that I'm mostly indifferent to VR. That kind of price-tag will just keep it so.
Will wait until the version that only needs the horsepower found in my phone. Its only a matter of time.
But I'm biased in that I'm mostly indifferent to VR. That kind of price-tag will just keep it so.
As it's Windows only, you need a 99 dollar Windows, and a 330 dollar GPU. The lowest priced PC with a 970 on the Neogaf "I Need a New PC" thread is about $1200 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...3LlMNaY8W4g/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&output=html
Uh, a 970 should be playing those games maxed at 60 FPS.
Uh, a 970 should be playing those games maxed at 60 FPS.
Xion_Stellar
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At the very least the entry point for it (PS4+Morpheus) wont be $1,500 or more.
Seen the recommended specs and you should be able to build a PC for around $800-900.
The price of a GTX 970 will be lower by the time this thing releases so I would not be surprised if you'll be able to build the entire PC + headset for $1000 tops. Monitor would add to that cost but most people already have a monitor, and you don't need to go crazy on that there are good quality monitors for around $150-200.
The price of a GTX 970 will be lower by the time this thing releases so I would not be surprised if you'll be able to build the entire PC + headset for $1000 tops. Monitor would add to that cost but most people already have a monitor, and you don't need to go crazy on that there are good quality monitors for around $150-200.
A $300-$400 Playstation 4 accessory is dead in the water as well anyway though.
This was *never* the goal. The objective is to have some market appeal to those who can afford it.
The big advantage is that the PC is not a fixed platform, early adopters will need expensive computers to run this at the start, but prices of the required hardware will start dropping as time moves on, bringing affordability to more consumers.
TheMadMan007
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I guess the Rift will be free cause to build a half decent rig that will power the Oculus is going to be around $1500.....
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Sorry dude but those prices are insanely wrong a 970 doesn't cost $500
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I bet it'll always cost the price of Xbox One. It'll even drop in price within the first year if all goes well.
I bet Oculus will cost $50 more than Sony's hardware, but I'm not sure if they can convince people to buy it unless it comes bundled with games.
Hell, both will definitely come bundled with games like Eve if they want to reduce the entry point, similar to how GPU come with games.
Randomizer123454444
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So, in order to have a smooth high-resolution experience in what I assume will be AAA-level games, you have to have a decent computer. I kind of assumed that was the case. Morpheus will never have the graphical fidelity Oculus will have, because of PS4 hardware limitations. But Morpheus will have its place, if Sony can optimize it well enough.
It will be interesting to see the battle between Valve and Oculus, because I have a feeling Valves headset will have a very similar price range than Oculus.
It will be interesting to see the battle between Valve and Oculus, because I have a feeling Valves headset will have a very similar price range than Oculus.
Devilgunman
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This is why Morpheus needs to succeed in order to allow VR to take off. It's probably the lowest barrier for general consumer to experience VR. Yes, the software itself won't be ground breaking. Yes, most games might be very simple or some kind of short demos. But these things are needed as baby steps for VR. There need to be something on the selves so people can try it out. We won't get a VR game with scope of Skyrim anytime soon.
hodayathink
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Actually, most people don't drop that kind of money for a phone (at least in the US). It's either broken into monthly installments, or subsidized by the carrier in some way.
I guess the Rift will be free cause to build a half decent rig that will power the Oculus is going to be around $1500.....
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1500 in US Dollars, not Australian Dollars....
You very well know who the people are.. And if they had been a part of the VR discussion over the last few years they would know that this isn't exactly a surprise. Palmer has mentioned their vision for the high end PC market many times, that it's the only option for now.
Mushroomer25
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Here's my concern - VR has one shot to make a good first impression on people. It's wierd, it's expensive, and it can be awful when done poorly. My worry is that Sony gets Morpheus out, and people's immediate assumption will be - "Oh, I can use that to play Fallout/Call of Duty/etc in full VR. DOPE.". They then buy the headset, and are instead limited to what the PS4 hardware can crank out in VR.
How long until that consumer gives VR another fair shake?
I honestly kind of wish Sony would hold Morpheus until they can pair it with appropriately capable hardware.
Same can be said for the other players. If this stuff hits with a $1.5K price tag, that's a death sentence. Low adoption, low software output, and underwhelming content will nail the coffin shut.
This needs a slow rollout to get started, or it will crash and burn.
CassidyIzABeast
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Its not 3D, but at a $1500 barrier to entry, its totally 3D.
The Goal is to get it on the market and get the early adopters paying the early adopter tax while they also are ambassadors for the products spreading the good word of VR,
Then as the tech matures and cheapens the average consumer then makes the jump and starts buying it.
It won't have the graphical fidelity nor will it provide anywhere near as good a vr experience in general. Morpheus certainly might be good enough, just nowhere near the best.
You can skimp a bit here and there but it's still $1200-1500 for a decent system (my prices are AU as well so that probably makes a difference).
Point is, a realistic figure for a system that will be able to run modern games on medium/high settings at 2160x1200 (or higher) @60FPS is going to cost. The Rift will be around $500 so I would think realistic figure for starting from scratch would be closer to $2k.
Yeah, I realised that, will make a difference.
Yes. Console gamers.
VR had a pretty decent chance of convincing people to finally making a gaming rig. I think it still will, once there's a decent killer app ready.
In all realism though, by the time VR is commercially ready for people to jump into it, I bet that price point will be halved. 980's aren't going to be 800 dollars forever.
Not to mention all those parts will be cheaper by the time rift hits.