Why remaster Dragon's Crown? It already ran at 1080p60 with all 2D art assets. Not much to remaster.
Heck I would even take a remastered version of Muramasa Rebirth on the PS4. Oh and also do one for Dragon's Crown
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Odin Sphere Leifthrasir Review Thread
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Shadowhaxor
Member
Can I get my review added as well?
The Outerhaven 5/5
To be perfectly honest, it feels good to get reacquainted with an old friend. The original Odin Sphere was one of my favorite RPG's on the PlayStation 2 and I'm happy to see that not only did the game survive the test of time but still offers just enough challenge and fun for even the most jaded gamer. On a presentation level, the game does so many things right, I wasn't really able to find any major flaw and my entire game-play session was a blur as I forgot what time it was even I started playing. Unlike its previous showing on the PlayStation 2, this time around there is zero compromise with getting those lovely looking graphics to run in all their glory, thanks to the power of the current generation of consoles. It's just that hard not to recommend Odin Sphere Leifthrasir to anyone, from the hardest of hardcore RPG gamers to someone who is looking to play their first RPG. Hands down one of the best RPG's available for the PlayStation 4, so be sure to eat this up when the game is released.
The Outerhaven 5/5
To be perfectly honest, it feels good to get reacquainted with an old friend. The original Odin Sphere was one of my favorite RPG's on the PlayStation 2 and I'm happy to see that not only did the game survive the test of time but still offers just enough challenge and fun for even the most jaded gamer. On a presentation level, the game does so many things right, I wasn't really able to find any major flaw and my entire game-play session was a blur as I forgot what time it was even I started playing. Unlike its previous showing on the PlayStation 2, this time around there is zero compromise with getting those lovely looking graphics to run in all their glory, thanks to the power of the current generation of consoles. It's just that hard not to recommend Odin Sphere Leifthrasir to anyone, from the hardest of hardcore RPG gamers to someone who is looking to play their first RPG. Hands down one of the best RPG's available for the PlayStation 4, so be sure to eat this up when the game is released.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
And you're dragging it out in the open again, even though Schreier and Kamitani both apologized to each others and made peace. May I suggest you get over it and move on with your life?
cool, can we get an answer now as to whether there are any differences between PS3 and PS4? Verified information on this in English has been kind of impossible to find!
although I'm assuming none of the outlets received PS3 version for review so maybe there will still be nothing.
although I'm assuming none of the outlets received PS3 version for review so maybe there will still be nothing.
dragonflys545
Member
Between this, Grand Kingdom, and Star Ocean 5... There are too many games, but not enough time to play them... T_T
SOME-MIST
Member
damn... really planned on passing this one up. beat the ps2 version and really enjoyed my time with it, but loved muramasa: the demon blade way more and never planned on revisiting odin sphere.
now with these glowing reviews... I feel like I need to nab it as soon as I get a ps4.
now with these glowing reviews... I feel like I need to nab it as soon as I get a ps4.
You seem more perturbed at him merely referencing it than he probably is over the whole thing. I doubt it's keeping him up at night. He just mentioned that fiasco in this thread because it's relevant to Vanillaware, seeing as how this is their first release since DC.
I actually forgot about Aegis Rim. hopefully they show something on it soon
YMMV on the repetitive aspect. It varies from person to person. Generally, the combat is much more fun this time around for each character, so as to not make it a chore. The framerate is stabilized and the map layout is less obtuse and confusing, and the menu system is much easier to navigate
I could see people being burned out on the original just because the act of doing basic things was a slog. But they streamlined most of that with this including the combat.
YMMV on the repetitive aspect. It varies from person to person. Generally, the combat is much more fun this time around for each character, so as to not make it a chore. The framerate is stabilized and the map layout is less obtuse and confusing, and the menu system is much easier to navigate
I could see people being burned out on the original just because the act of doing basic things was a slog. But they streamlined most of that with this including the combat.
I imagine so. Atlus gave it a pretty grand unveiling last year, so I see it being a priority for them.
Kowashitai
Banned
From reading reviews, the Vita version just has more slowdown than the PS4 version. Content is the same.
StrangeRoboMemory
Member
Holding out hope that this and Aegis Rim will eventually land on Steam.
Just let me dream.
Just let me dream.
Omegabalmung9
Member
I just want the game on PS4 lol
KinofChaos
Banned
Wow didn't even know this was coming out, I like some JRPG's is this worth a shot?
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Try the demo and see for yourself.
You could try out the demo since the game doesn't play like the original at all.
It's more of an action-brawler with RPG elements.
It actually has a decent story too.
Kowashitai
Banned
Play the demo, it is very different. I only played some of the original PS2 release and wasn't a fan but the demo for the remake was incredibly fun. It is a huge improvement gameplay wise.
I apologize. I was just doing some sarcastic ribbing directed at the media. I am not intending to make it into a big thing, and i wont bring it up again.
I fully recommend it
dlcnotincluded
Member
Ah man good reviews are just strumming up my hype for this release.
Can't wait!!!
Can't wait!!!
KinofChaos
Banned
I find demos don;t really give you much of a feel for games, especially for RPG's, was hoping for more impressions from people who played it, mainstream reviews I don't always trust.
Yeah I need to plow through Dark Souls 3 this week, then I'll probably get Odin Sphere in the mail the next week, then Star Ocean 5...
i quit gaming this is too hard
Jawbreaker
Member
Incredible scores. This game will be mine soon.
TheSpoiler
Member
Well, this is an action RPG, so.
And the demo was created so that people can sample the systems first hand. The only difference beteween the demo and the main game is that the former is incredibly easy, while the latter comes with actual difficulty settings.
There have been people right here on neogaf who have played the game already (jp import) who have basically said the same things as these reviews. You can trust the reviews for this.
Begaria
Member
Yeah, the original has a good length to it, even without the grinding.
https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=6706
WCCFtech - 8.2
The length/repetition was what I felt hurt this one too. A shame, because I absolutely loved the redone combat.
For what it's worth, I had to force myself through the original Odin Sphere over a period of 2 years and hated it. Still ranks as the worst vanillaware game for me.
Played through leifthrasir and it's easily my best vanillaware game now, with its only flaw being the eventual inevitable repetitiveness.
The added skills and their mapability to fighting game-like command inputs makes creating and executing combos insanely fun. Would work wonderfully with an arcade stick as well if you play one of the console versions. Tons of quality of life improvements alleviate pretty much all of the tedious systems from the original too.
Only recommendations I have are to play on hard or higher and make it a slow burn instead of playing through it in one go to help with the repetition.
KinofChaos
Banned
This game is testing my promise to stop my impulse buying habit .
plasmawave
Banned
Eww. Do they still have you fight every boss like 10 times? And all the stupid micromanagement with the inventory?
robotzombie
Member
Wow, surprised and happy to see the game getting such great reviews
Been playing it for a couple of days and I just can't stop, its so enjoyable. And this is coming from someone who really, really didn't like it the first time around.
Honestly, this game deserves a chance even from people who were put off by the PS2 version
Been playing it for a couple of days and I just can't stop, its so enjoyable. And this is coming from someone who really, really didn't like it the first time around.
Honestly, this game deserves a chance even from people who were put off by the PS2 version
Gormless Noodle
Member
Not when they're making this.
I don't know what that is, but I want it.
I finished it the game just shy of 30 hours on Normal. It's padded with so many inconsequential chapters that I felt like it was 40 hours long. Each new chapter/character is a highlight moment but each of them overstay their welcome.
Yes. I hope you like revisiting every area with each character.
I said it in my review (which I'll be posting later) but I feel Odin Sphere is a product of its time where people valued quantity over quality and the market for flexible pricing didn't exist yet. They don't have enough to warrant a full price, so they padded it 20 hours worth of quality content into a 40 hour slog. Leifthrasir may have improved the systems and made it more fun to play but in the end, it was still not enough keep me engaged throughout an entire chapter.
I'd consider the PS4 version for performance reasons alone. There were noticeable slowdowns when I was throwing out Cyclone, Whirlwind, Toxin, Volcano and unleashing specials against multiple enemies at once. I suspect the PS3 version would fare worse in those scenarios. I thought those slowdowns were tolerable though; I was relishing the fact that I was dishing out so much nonsense to cause everything to buckle.
Nowhere Man
Member
Really excited to play this, the original version was my 2007 GotY and one of my favorite PS2 games ever. I'd rather have a sequel than a remaster, but I'll take it, especially after how disappointed I was with Dragon's Crown.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Fuck I need it
Not when they're making this.
There are two teams at Vanillaware that work on two projects simultaneously. While 13 Sentinels is Kamitani's game, Kentaro Ohnishi's team—the one that worked on Odin Sphere Leifthrasir—will then go on to make something else.
Sumio Mondo
Member
So it's better than the original then, which was a really repetitive game. Now it looks like they've employed everything they've learnt from their games after the original Odin Sphere release with the great gameplay systems they've created since (mostly pulled from Muramasa by the looks of things) and put into a game with gameplay mechanic issues, therefore making an amazing aesthetic treat into a game with great gameplay too and thus the reviews are way more positive this time around. The 9.5 from IGN is really high though, rather surprising. Vanillaware are a quality dev nowadays. Good to see them get the recognition they deserve.
Their secret best game. Hope they re-release that one too in glorious HD since Muramasa and Odin Sphere got the treatment.
Their secret best game. Hope they re-release that one too in glorious HD since Muramasa and Odin Sphere got the treatment.